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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 68. (Read 262906 times)

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Do you think GAW is going to have any legal trouble with this sceme? Seeing that even CRYPTSY has some trouble with the law, for just running a perfectly honest exchange, I'm afraid gaw is going to be raided one day.

They might if it's really a scam, but don't let that give you any confidence. Pirate, BFL, Neo and bee, hashfast all had some trouble with the law, but it didn't stop everyone else from getting fucked over.

This is new stuff and the legal system moves slow. The law might protect you, but you'll be much better off by not giving your money away to scammers.

The problem with GAW or LTC Gear or other "clouds" vs e.g. Cryptsy is that you don't need to keep a lot of money at Cryptsy to be able to use their services unless you're daytrading or something. With a cloud you sink your whole investment upfront and hope to get it back one day. That's not to say that Cryptsy should be held to lower standards or anything, just that if it goes down an average user is almost guaranteed to lose more money at a cloud service as opposed to an exchange or a mining pool etc.

And yeah, law is not much help in any case. Although hashfast is still selling off assets and BFL could probably too, maybe something will come out of it?
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 250
Just made 4 withdrawals few hours ago, but when I tried for another one, it didn't work.
Now hashtalk is down!

Same here. I think a lot of Primes are being sold today and they are short on btc.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
Do you think GAW is going to have any legal trouble with this sceme? Seeing that even CRYPTSY has some trouble with the law, for just running a perfectly honest exchange, I'm afraid gaw is going to be raided one day.

They might if it's really a scam, but don't let that give you any confidence. Pirate, BFL, Neo and bee, hashfast all had some trouble with the law, but it didn't stop everyone else from getting fucked over.

This is new stuff and the legal system moves slow. The law might protect you, but you'll be much better off by not giving your money away to scammers.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Just made 4 withdrawals few hours ago, but when I tried for another one, it didn't work.
Now hashtalk is down!
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
ANyone else having issues withdrawing from the cloud? The past few weeks have been horrible with account locks, withdraw issues etc... I don't know if they are short on BTC or what... But my last 4 withdraw requests were put on hold for "approval"..
Try smaller pulls? Chunk them ...

edit: ya, not working right now for a tiny pull.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
ANyone else having issues withdrawing from the cloud? The past few weeks have been horrible with account locks, withdraw issues etc... I don't know if they are short on BTC or what... But my last 4 withdraw requests were put on hold for "approval".. The latest not being approved for over 2 days... I just want my money out because I have no idea when cloud will be down or when they will deny access to my own money.

Waiting over 2 days for my own money is just rediculous... I've made a ticket, posted in forum and everything.. Of course the forum is down again... Just like everything lately... But good god.. Just give me my money!!!!

If they have these issues when they roll out to the masses they will be fucked... Normal people don't put up with these sub par performance and money issues they have..

The longer they make me wait for my own money and keep having "payout" and withdraw issues makes me think this is ponzi more and more...
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
I made nothing today on my last remaining 3 x Multihashlet that I am unable to sell or split. Even the gaw fanboys are unusually quiet today on hashtalk.org lol

Also when you buy the cheapest hashlet  what are seriously expecting a btc ? gtfo Its been performing like shit lately, that is not anyones fault but multpool themselves.  Buy cheap you get the nasty earnings.  That is all you for shelling out so cheaply.



True, however as I stated, this was my last remaining 3 x Multihashlet that I am unable to sell or split. I had much more than that but sold most of them off long before I dumped all my Prime's and Zen's. I think this hashlet was one I merged when they had issues with the multi's and has never been fixed (at least not in my case) hence I'm stuck with it  Angry

OK fair enough


Also my apologies Suchmoon, I figured after my post got removed (as I get a lot removed in self moderated threads for merely asking questions and idiots deem my posts as fud because its too hard for them to answer or read properly so I am pretty used to it) and thought this was also self moderated...Yeah It got removed by a mod who is using "Bitcoin Forum Guest" as the nick...so that in itself is a crock of shit, as a guest on the forum should have no power.  

sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Do you think GAW is going to have any legal trouble with this sceme? Seeing that even CRYPTSY has some trouble with the law, for just running a perfectly honest exchange, I'm afraid gaw is going to be raided one day.
sr. member
Activity: 430
Merit: 250
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multi is giving nothing to no one since fees is taking all income sell isnt soo easy and no one wanna them..... hope soon gaw team come with a solution that way all haslets will be post to sale very soon..... i mean multi the others till now zen haslets as prime only proof from them soo we have to avoid multi.... no proof is a no gain or loss investment currently  Angry Huh like our investment were frozen Cry Cry

Daily fees for 1 multi is .08 cents and it just so happens 1 multi is generating .08 cents a day! Thats quiet a ROI, a person could make more money from picking up pennies they find on the ground during the day, than depending on any sort of ROI from ZEN/GAW.   Cheesy

Oh well like I said, dealing with their Clod miner was a cheap lesson for me... not going to worry about it any more and moving along now.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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I once got a message about my post being deleted and the message came from a mod, so I knew who to contact. Usually if a post gets deleted it's done by a mod assigned to the given section of the forum.

You can know this by checking your report accuracy. When a mod ignores you the accuracy goes down.

Lucky you, got some personal touch, my came from "Bitcoin Forum" Smiley

My accuracy says "You have reported 9 posts with 25% accuracy" so apparently (a) I'm shit at reporting and (b) they deleted 2.25 posts.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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Were you informed which mod removed it? Usually they don't remove posts unless it's spam, repetitions, referral links or begging.
Those guys that spammed here last month can serve as an example of this "free reign".

I don't think they tell you which mod removes a post or why.

Here is an example of a PM about a deleted post:

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org

I am a large Bitcoin investor and purchased my first Bitcoins in 2013. I decided to "park" some of my bitcoins in GAW to earn hashpoints to get free miners.

Hi here,

Our support department looked up the ticket number and account which you have referenced.  
The information you have provided is not in our ticket system.

(sigh) Sorry for your loss.... I believe what you are saying...


First off, welcome to the forum.
Second, you get fooled too easily. The guy made up the whole thing.

If that is the case, I suggest Suchmoon exercise his right to censor and remove this big assed lie in this thread, since he likes to remove innocent posts, flat out lies are allowed ? OK


this isn't a self moderated thread...everyone can report that comment to get it removed thou, or he can ask a moderator to remove it

^^ This.

There is nothing I can do except click on that "Report to moderator" link that you all can use as well. I have reported some posts in the past, but I have no idea if it had any effect, haven't really checked each one if it has been deleted or not. I have not reported any of Jacques' posts, I don't believe I've seen him ever post anything that would warrant that. My reports were mostly about MemCID and related trollery. Also some posts seem to have been removed by posters themselves, which is something anyone can do.

Anyway, the thread grows a couple of pages per day on average, so chances are the offending posts will be long forgotten by the time moderators get around to look at it.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500

WE didn't do anything. You are a joke. You can't even read a simple question properly never-mind answer it. NO one needs more people like you misinforming people seeking simple answers then having the balls to say you read the question wrong. You copied and boldfaced the very question that you say you misread. This either makes you a liar or much more of an idiot than anyone could have ever imagined. Move along little boy. Well I certainly hope that you are a little boy.

youre still jabbering? you want my attention this badly?

get off the dick you waste of space.


once again, move along. son.

Just like a little boy to ignore exactly what he is; ignorant, incompetent and arrogant to mask it. Sorry but I don't play with men never mind little boys. It's rather disconcerting to know that you are used to telling random men to get off your dick. How many of them do you let  stay?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Yes, I have been collecting the stats (for Zen/Prime - others are quite useless IMHO) and would like to add them along with some other changes to the site. Unfortunately I'm in a stupid dispute with the hosting provider for a couple of months now and can't make changes to the code. Will be moving somewhere else "soon", hopefully before hashbase comes along and changes everything (tm) Smiley

Though. you could get one of each flavor in the market for fire sale prices if you want to be comprehensive...

True, but I don't like knowingly and deliberately lose money Smiley

Seriously though, ZenPool is the only pool at Zen that is mildly interesting. The others are just imitations of other pools, so I'm not sure there is any real value in tracking their payouts. I mean now that ltcgearcalc.com is doing the calculation I might just add a link to their page once I get my FTP access back, and that would take care of Solos.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1001
I made nothing today on my last remaining 3 x Multihashlet that I am unable to sell or split. Even the gaw fanboys are unusually quiet today on hashtalk.org lol

Also when you buy the cheapest hashlet  what are seriously expecting a btc ? gtfo Its been performing like shit lately, that is not anyones fault but multpool themselves.  Buy cheap you get the nasty earnings.  That is all you for shelling out so cheaply.



True, however as I stated, this was my last remaining 3 x Multihashlet that I am unable to sell or split. I had much more than that but sold most of them off long before I dumped all my Prime's and Zen's. I think this hashlet was one I merged when they had issues with the multi's and has never been fixed (at least not in my case) hence I'm stuck with it  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250

I am a large Bitcoin investor and purchased my first Bitcoins in 2013. I decided to "park" some of my bitcoins in GAW to earn hashpoints to get free miners.

Hi here,

Our support department looked up the ticket number and account which you have referenced.  
The information you have provided is not in our ticket system.

(sigh) Sorry for your loss.... I believe what you are saying...


First off, welcome to the forum.
Second, you get fooled too easily. The guy made up the whole thing.

If that is the case, I suggest Suchmoon exercise his right to censor and remove this big assed lie in this thread, since he likes to remove innocent posts, flat out lies are allowed ? OK


this isn't a self moderated thread...everyone can report that comment to get it removed thou, or he can ask a moderator to remove it

Interesting because I had a comment removed on here that didn't really say much.  But the trolls an liars get free reign.

But fuck it, mob mentality rules around here and its rarely correct and justified.

hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 504
Dream become broken often

I am a large Bitcoin investor and purchased my first Bitcoins in 2013. I decided to "park" some of my bitcoins in GAW to earn hashpoints to get free miners.

Hi here,

Our support department looked up the ticket number and account which you have referenced.  
The information you have provided is not in our ticket system.

(sigh) Sorry for your loss.... I believe what you are saying...


First off, welcome to the forum.
Second, you get fooled too easily. The guy made up the whole thing.

If that is the case, I suggest Suchmoon exercise his right to censor and remove this big assed lie in this thread, since he likes to remove innocent posts, flat out lies are allowed ? OK


this isn't a self moderated thread...everyone can report that comment to get it removed thou, or he can ask a moderator to remove it
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250

I am a large Bitcoin investor and purchased my first Bitcoins in 2013. I decided to "park" some of my bitcoins in GAW to earn hashpoints to get free miners.

Hi here,

Our support department looked up the ticket number and account which you have referenced.  
The information you have provided is not in our ticket system.

(sigh) Sorry for your loss.... I believe what you are saying...


First off, welcome to the forum.
Second, you get fooled too easily. The guy made up the whole thing.

If that is the case, I suggest Suchmoon exercise his right to censor and remove this big assed lie in this thread, since he likes to remove innocent posts, flat out lies are allowed ? OK
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
I made nothing today on my last remaining 3 x Multihashlet that I am unable to sell or split. Even the gaw fanboys are unusually quiet today on hashtalk.org lol

I had that problem for ages, then I was able to split and piss them off through the market (yes 3 multis)  maybe user error I dont know. But the forum is down for me today anyway.



Also when you buy the cheapest hashlet  what are seriously expecting a btc ? gtfo Its been performing like shit lately, that is not anyones fault but multpool themselves.  Buy cheap you get the nasty earnings.  That is all you for shelling out so cheaply.

hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
multi is giving nothing to no one since fees is taking all income sell isnt soo easy and no one wanna them..... hope soon gaw team come with a solution that way all haslets will be post to sale very soon..... i mean multi the others till now zen haslets as prime only proof from them soo we have to avoid multi.... no proof is a no gain or loss investment currently  Angry Huh like our investment were frozen Cry Cry
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