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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 73. (Read 262906 times)

hero member
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Interesting post above... not sure what to make of it... I'm curious why you did not include your responses in the email?

Does it really matter? I guess they don't actually "park" your BTC but take it and do... something with it. Maybe you're the reason why the Zenpool payouts suck!
sr. member
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Interesting post above... not sure what to make of it... I'm curious why you did not include your responses in the email?
hero member
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Merit: 1000
Wow. Wow at the amount and wow that you would park that much there. I gotta say, that's a bad idea to park that much anywhere especially a mining cloud. Thanks for the emails, very illuminating.
newbie
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WARNING: GAW MINERS / ZENCLOUD HAS NOT PAID MY WITHDRAWAL FOR 11 DAYS

On Oct 14, I decided to withdraw my full balance on ZenCloud of 754.22481152 BTC to my address 1BuhEgMWFziiuVsgsPhMFoPKFM55p3AyZR. I found out my account was "locked". It has been 11 days and I have only received 20 BTC from GAW.

I have not had any response from GAW for the past 3 days. My HashTalk account is banned, and the new tickets I have been file were simply closed. Even worse, I cannot even sign into my account, it says "Administrative Hold. Please contact support" when I try to login

GAW OWES ME 734.22481152 BTC. SUPPORT TICKET 35118. SEND ME MY BITCOINS NOW.

https://i.imgur.com/mEabxq8.png

I am a large Bitcoin investor and purchased my first Bitcoins in 2013. I decided to "park" some of my bitcoins in GAW to earn hashpoints to get free miners. This has been a horrible mistake. I am hoping that GAW is not a scam, but I have already waited far too long.

Josh Garza: Please send me my coins ASAP!!


hero member
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"ZenCloud is currently experiencing higher than normal requests so you may experience delays navigating the web application at this time.
We are in the process of bringing new servers online to assist in the added number of requests at this time. We will provide another update when this process is complete.
Thank you for your patience as we continue growing and scaling ZenCloud to meet demand."

As people try to get some of there cash back before it falls flat...
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legendary
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https://bpip.org
Hello all

I question after today payout (to see if I'm the only one in this case)

according to the rate page : genesis guild gives about 0.00001398 BTC (i assume it is per GHS)

so if you have 3000GHS it should be 0.04194BTC  per day . minus the fee (0.02$/10ghs ) 6$ or 0.0166BTC   It makes    around 0.025 BTC .

So why do I have only a paiement of 0.017 BTC for 3THS genesis ??



The site seems to be down now, so I can't check my numbers, but your math seems to be correct. Are you sure you didn't get any other payments? They've been sending a bunch of random "account credits" recently. What amounts are actually showing in your "Latest Activity" or do you have too many miners to figure that out? Other than that I'd suggest to file a support ticket.
full member
Activity: 236
Merit: 100
Hello all

I question after today payout (to see if I'm the only one in this case)

according to the rate page : genesis guild gives about 0.00001398 BTC (i assume it is per GHS)

so if you have 3000GHS it should be 0.04194BTC  per day . minus the fee (0.02$/10ghs ) 6$ or 0.0166BTC   It makes    around 0.025 BTC .

So why do I have only a paiement of 0.017 BTC for 3THS genesis ??


legendary
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Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
So what's next? I'm guessing: another rushed untested ZenCloud update to implement the "features" promised in the announcement; waffle/multi/clever hashlets become essentially worthless (not able to mine HashPool and struggling to mine more than zero BTC); zen hashlet price in the Market could drop until some equilibrium point between ZenPool and HashPool mining profits; good times for all those BTCjam borrowers who invested in hashlets.

Here the only positive I can figure out at this time - this is a great opportunity for someone who believes that ZenPool negotiations will succeed and that HashBase will change the world and that HashPoints is this new GAW cryptocurrency they've been hinting at.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
Zencloud is catching a bad one now too. At first laggy, now completely inaccessible.

Not a good look.

Probably another DDOS
Somebody felt touched by the recent announcement and is showing appreciation.
newbie
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- 500 hashpoints for every referred purchaser
- mining hashpoints with the hashpoint pool
- limited halloween hashlets

i am not amazed at all. is there any way to convert hashpoints into btc or fiat? even if they bring up the purchase of hashlets by using hashpoints someone has to load up his account with btc/$ in order to buy my hashlet financed by hashpoints. They keep dragging money into their company and lower the payouts. "To conquer the falling payout rates" they introduce changes that keep the money in their circle. If they won't show up with an option converting hashpoints to btc/$ i am gonna be really pis***. 
full member
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Zencloud is catching a bad one now too. At first laggy, now completely inaccessible.

Not a good look.

Probably another DDOS

GAW are AWESOME.

If the CEO likes what you say you get 100 tokens to spend in the mine shop or pub.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Zencloud is catching a bad one now too. At first laggy, now completely inaccessible.

Not a good look.

Probably another DDOS
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Zencloud is catching a bad one now too. At first laggy, now completely inaccessible.

Not a good look.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 254
I think there's a reason all the big holders sold most of their miners a while ago.

PS: There are cloud mining services that do business right Wink

-Sahra

Actually most of the big holders are still the big holders.. The top 10 Champion list has barely changed since the beginning. But, with the way Josh has operated in the past a lot of them have inside information... So, they know when to sell or keep before the masses.

What I would like to know is how many of those 1% are resellers, employees or other insiders who purchases or were given their hashlets at deep discounts.  It would not surprise me if employees or partners are paid in part in hashlets... If so the list would be highly misleading.  Again, the lack of disclosure makes gaw open to these concerns.

Also, how many people would have bought prime or zen hashlets if you had known that your money would be used to purchase miners that would be rented out with the proceeds from rental being the main source of profit for zenpool (and is that 100% of profit or does gas take a management fee first)?!
sr. member
Activity: 756
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Not only is ZenPool experiencing a temporary drop while we renegotiate terms with a few investors,

The smart money has done its DD and realized this is a ponzi and drawn down their investment.

Yea I used to be a koolaid drinker... Now I'm super skeptical.. To the point I sold off some of my primes to at least break even. I mean GAW is this big company with all this purchasing and hiring power but they can't get simple everyday things like a payout system to work... Or simple technical support... I just don't get it...

LTCGear is ran by 1 person, yet they almost NEVER have issues... It's because he didn't add all these stupid gimmicks to keep your miners profitable... That and he realizes simpler is better...


Maybe that's why he still has cash to pay people, because he doesn't have any employees, but this can quickly turn around.
I think mining is runing on fumes since BTC went below $400.
newbie
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What a strange state of affairs. So many layers.

Also, I can make a Top 10 list too.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
I think there's a reason all the big holders sold most of their miners a while ago.

PS: There are cloud mining services that do business right Wink

-Sahra

Actually most of the big holders are still the big holders.. The top 10 Champion list has barely changed since the beginning. But, with the way Josh has operated in the past a lot of them have inside information... So, they know when to sell or keep before the masses.

Yeah, I wonder how Craig feels about getting his payouts in HashPoints  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
I think there's a reason all the big holders sold most of their miners a while ago.

PS: There are cloud mining services that do business right Wink

-Sahra

Actually most of the big holders are still the big holders.. The top 10 Champion list has barely changed since the beginning. But, with the way Josh has operated in the past a lot of them have inside information... So, they know when to sell or keep before the masses.
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 100
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I think there's a reason all the big holders sold most of their miners a while ago.

PS: There are cloud mining services that do business right Wink

-Sahra
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