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Topic: GekkoScience NewPac / Terminus R606 (BM1387) Official Support Thread - page 97. (Read 62052 times)

newbie
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sorry if this seems dumb.....ebay says newpac comes with DUAL bm1387, does that mean there's two chips per newpac or does that mean you get two newpacs per purchase?
member
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yes, that must be it. This time i let them on while doing the maintenance. Normally i turn them completely off.
Due to your remark i did realise the difference with other times.
Thx. i'll try right away.

edit: forgot to tell this was the solution, THX!
newbie
Activity: 8
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Did you power cycle the sticks?  Even when they're not doing stuff, the circuit's actually still doing stuff, it just draws like 1.5watts.  I've found with these and the 2Pac, at a certain point when it zombie out or does weird stuff, you need to power cycle it.

I do these in order:
- uhubctl power cycling the entire hub where USB hub support software power cycling (I can be lazy and do this through software, usually work)
- pushing the button if USB hub has them (now I have to get up)
- physically removing and then reinstalling the stick (now I have to get up and do physical labor beyond pushing a button, grrrr)

The chips need to be completely power cycled to fully reset.  Unless you pulled the power cord and USB uplink cable on your hub or something, a lot of errors can persist through CGMiner or computer restarts.
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 85
Hi all,

This evening my two newpac did start producing errors/messages like this:

Code:
[2019-03-27 20:49:54.420] Rejected 22c11265 Diff 1.89K/272 GSH 0  (Invalid extraNonce2 value)
[2019-03-27 20:49:54.980] Rejected 473ecbc0 Diff 920/272 GSH 0  (Invalid extraNonce2 value)

Did some searching with google, but aint got a clue whats happening.
Some know whats happening here? HW errors are minimal, so thats not a problem.
The errors did occur after i did stop them mining, due to some lets say maintenance for the fans.

stopping: First i stopped the miners, then after 5 mins i stopped the fan.
Starting: run the fan 1st for a min, then started the miners.

BTW do not get em all the time, they appear now an then. Never had em b4

Regards
newbie
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Hey folks =)

I made a video about the NewPac beauty (Intro / Hardware Requirements / Software Setup / Profitability) and a bit of general talk and comparison. Still, I always try to keep my videos short not to waste anyone's time.
Here is the link: https://youtu.be/6BxCiO-hur4

Already featured the 2Pacs in the past. Was too late for the Compac version (my last USB miners before Gekkoscience were Block Erupters  Grin)

Cheers and thanks to all the folks involved in Gekkoscience for building truly genious devices!!
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
First you should contact BitMinerJoe for advice, and look over the board (specifically in the bottom right corner area) for missing or broken parts. Also make sure your USB port doesn't suck.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 29
So I bought a new newpac (GSH 10031154) on amazon from "BitMinerJoe".  Literally received it today a few hours ago.

Plugged in, zadig'd, test script set to stock speed of 100.
doesnt work - 0 chips found.

unpluged many times - no luck.
tired on linux, same issue.
also tried tightening the heatsink screws.

checked vcore - 0.0V?Huh  Yeah... that might explain it!
At least I assume I am checking vcore correctly - from the GND pin on the USB to the orange component next to asic #2 shown here:  (Its how I checked on the 2pacs...)
https://postimg.cc/wyhHqSBh

tried adjusting vcore from stock position to 6 'o-clock - still getting 0V.  

Should I return it, or does someone have any other ideas?
EDIT: nevermind, i'm just returning it...
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
[...]

Filax,

How were you able to get 2 fans to work?  I have not yet built it, just wanted to know before i screw something up.

Thank you.
copper member
Activity: 190
Merit: 111
https://www.419mining.com
Darn it.. How long till you guys get more hubs built.. Went to put one of the heavy duty hubs into my cart and said 0 available.. Ive looked I might have one option that's viable as an option which is heavy duty and can do 2.1A per port but its a wee more expensive then the GekkoScience one even including the add on power supply...

We still have a few in stock and will be replenishing before we run out.
https://www.419mining.com/shop/cables/gekkoscience-7-port-base-hub/
newbie
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Darn it.. How long till you guys get more hubs built.. Went to put one of the heavy duty hubs into my cart and said 0 available.. Ive looked I might have one option that's viable as an option which is heavy duty and can do 2.1A per port but its a wee more expensive then the GekkoScience one even including the add on power supply.

One other question for sidehack.. Any plans to create a BM1387 version of the Terminus 808 miner you made with the 1384s?? The thought of something with the mining capacity of 4 Newpacs is almost enough to make somebody drool (minimum 100Ghs on lowest setting vs the 66Ghs of the Terminum plus potential to run 500GH/s (130x4 is 520)).. I doubt itll be immediately but that would be a neat option maybe later this year Wink
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Look in the first post of this thread.
newbie
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Merit: 0
I have purchased several newpac and 2 PAC miners and have been trying desparately to get cgminer and bfgminer to recognize them. Miners supply have been very helpful in suggesting fixes both software and hardware. Nothing to date has caused these miners to be picked up by either program. Both of these programs pick up block erupter and nanofury miners. So I believe these miners have bad drivers. Can you direct me to the manufacturer to get them reloaded or repaired.
newbie
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This is a big, duh now... but hoping this post will confirm for those starting out (like myself) that you should pay a little more for a decent hub if you want to use a lot of these stick miners.  I love shortcuts, but power for these guys isn't something to mess with.

I was super green last month and got the usb hub below thinking I could get this and throw some miners on it and be all good.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GGYU46O

I have only been able to get two to run on the hub (moved them around to different ports) and had to turn down the pot, but I have two newpacs running at 325mhz getting about 98-99% of 74.1 GH/s on each.  If I move them to the stock position, then one will pull the correct voltage and the other fights, and gets reset over and over.  Where I have them set now, if I try to push to 350mhz then the same thing happens, one pulls all the voltage and the other get's hosed.

No heat issues, but I have a fan on them just in case.

When my birthday comes around in August, I'll be asking for a new hub and more newpacs (or the next iterations, if available).  Thanks for all the work and updates on everyone's adventures.

More Reading:
USB HUB THREAD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1779423.0;all
NEWPAC Announcement THREAD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053711.0;all - Don't change the potentiometer!
2PAC Support THREAD https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gekkoscience-2paccompac-bm1384-stickminer-official-support-thread-1764803 - learned a lot here too.
vh
hero member
Activity: 699
Merit: 666
Unplug the miner and let it rest for an hour without power.

Confirm the potentiometer is at its default location.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48600421

The chips may respond once cooled, if they haven’t fully overheated.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I don't know if it's intrinsic to 16nm or something about the 1387 architecture, but these chips are very susceptible to thermal runaway. Take a look at VH's power charts in the first post. The moderately-cooled 200MHz power draw is about the same as the 100MHz uncooled. The BM1384 2Pac worked better (more stable at least) when running a bit hot, but the BM1387 really love the cold. We had to set the stock speed down to 100MHz on the NewPac, even though it's capable of so much more, because of the heat risk.
hero member
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I just tested this frequency just a few minutes.. i just let it run on the stock speed overdose the night : 100 And this morning was dead ...

But as sidehack said....did you have a fan on it?
jr. member
Activity: 31
Merit: 4
I just tested this frequency just a few minutes.. i just let it run on the stock speed overdose the night : 100 And this morning was dead ...
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Really hope you had a fan on it at that speed, otherwise it probably burned the chips up.
jr. member
Activity: 31
Merit: 4
Hello Everyone !

So i received yesterday a Newpac and he was running smoothly until today :

i got this message on cgminer:

Code:
[2019-03-10 14:21:43.355] GSH 0: Toggling ASIC nRST to reset
[2019-03-10 14:21:48.997] GSH 0: found 0 chip(s)

tried to lowered the frequency to 25 but nothing better ... seems the chips are dead. i never passed a frequency above 150
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 29
Wonder if cgminer is adapted so only 1 instance is needed, based on serialnumber.

Anyway thx for the help.

Nope, not without changing a lot of code in cgminer.

Your welcome!  Hope it helps others too.
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