Topic: George Zimmerman arrested for 2nd degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin (Read 14048 times)

They should of put the money into bitcoin.

Does anyone not find it ironic that the money Zimmerman collected for his "defense fund" is what got him back in jail and may put his wife in there too.

Now we know it was GZ begging for help and that the police video clearly shows his injuries.

Now we know it was GZ begging for help and that the police video clearly shows his injuries. And remember the "raciest remark". Sounded something like "fgeoeoiaohe owdiupoar".

Doesn't Trayvon get the benefit of the doubt too? he has no history committing violent crimes

You don't have to believe him.  The way the law works, the State has to make a case that is believable beyond all reasonable doubt.  Even if the defendant has a track record of similiar crimes, he still gets the benefit of the doubt.  In this case, it looks as if Zimmerman got greedy and lied so he could keep the money.  He may well go to jail for that.  But he still gets the benefit of the doubt on the Trayvon shooting.

You don't have to believe him.  The way the law works, the State has to make a case that is believable beyond all reasonable doubt.  Even if the defendant has a track record of similiar crimes, he still gets the benefit of the doubt.  In this case, it looks as if Zimmerman got greedy and lied so he could keep the money.  He may well go to jail for that.  But he still gets the benefit of the doubt on the Trayvon shooting.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/12/3655268/zimmermans-wife-charged-with-perjury.html

So Zimmerman lied under oath
His wife lied under oath

Uh .... That's a huge mistake, now all of their statements can be scrutinized.


George Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law or the integrity of the judicial process," Lester wrote.'

Well looks like the judge doesn't like Zimmerman already, nor we should believe anything that liar says.

Interesting standard you have for participation in the discussion, but completely typical of the knee-jerk neo-racism of the Black community in the US currently. If any criminal is Black, then he couldn't possibly be guilty, and if any White person speaks out against an obvious racially motivated hate-movement, like the lynching that Obama, the New Black Panthers, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest of the race-card pimps are crying for, they must be wrong and full of shit.

Too bad Dutchie- indeed I am White, but not quite the shit-filled punk-ass bitch you want to think I am. I speak out against racism of any kind, and in this case your boy Trayvon was wrong. He opened up a can of worms that he wasn't fully prepared to deal with, and got himself killed with his pseudo-macho gang-banger wanna-be antics. Zimmerman acted out the responsibility that he had taken on as a neighborhood watch member, and when assaulted, protected himself. Having the instant mob vigilantism of racist hate-mongers like Sharpton and Jackson appear to inflame the easily led, and the comments of Obama and the Hollywood Left has done nothing but pour gasoline on a very bad situation.

But, your champions won't be happy until there is full on race war in the US- it's part of the Stalinist/Alinsky agenda that Obama is acting as a puppet for. Look for a lot more Trayvons and Zimmermans in the coming months as we get ready for another crooked election season, influenced by the agit-prop of Sauros and the Leftist powerbrokers who hold the leashes of Obama and his kind. With any kind of consistency we can raze Detroit, Watts, Cincinnati and Crown Heights all over again so you and your fellow Black racists can make your political statements through murder and mayhem.

That was meant in defense of others, that means you don't need to retreat. Of course if a kidnapper or a rapist is after you, in NY you need to run very fast.

LOL,

Victim: Hey Stop !!! before I can shoot you, which type of criminal are you? Are you a Rapist or Kidnapper?

Criminal: ah... No.

Victim: Ok then go ahead and take my stuff. The money is in the vault. There is a lamp over there to murder me with when your done.

NY isn't a castle doctrine state and of course isn't stand your ground.  But you're allowed to use deadly force against rapists and kidnappers.

I don;t know about other states, but they probably have similar laws.

Perhaps, or perhaps not. What if it is happening one street over? can I go over there to respond? What if it is 20 miles away? I am not going to find out in a court of law. I am going to run if at all possible, even if it means certain death for your family.
I would also not use my gun to stop a rape for example. Rape is not murder and I think stopping a rapist with deadly force is murder.

Um that is not correct.  If a crime is in progress, you have the right under common law to plead self-defence for any reasonable injury you inflict preventing it.  For example, giving a mugger a bloody nose even though he was robbing an old lady, not you, is perfectly legal.

"Stand your ground" takes this a step further.  If you think the guy is going to mug the old lady, maybe you can kill him.  The "reasonable" test is removed.

In this case, if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, Zimmerman was well within his rights to kill him both under common law and "stand your ground" reinforces this.  On the other hand, if the voice screaming for mercy in the 911 call is that of Trayvon, Zimmerman is in trouble.

Maybe it was Trayvon screaming for assistance while on top of Zman and banging his head on the sidewalk.

I've seen people do that before.