Topic: George Zimmerman arrested for 2nd degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin - page 3. (Read 14037 times)

Listen idiot, soviets by mass are white people. Jewish are white too. And so most of the Europeans.

Over 40 millions of white people died during ww2. Anyway ignore time.

Can we remove emotions and preconceptions here please. It dilutes the argument.

I try to look at the whole chess board and think a few moves ahead. Just looking at the pawns doesn't give a good picture of what is going on in the game.

Can we agree that there is a reason that this particular case out of the thousands that happen in the U.S. became National news in the first place?

Then lets look at what the reasons behind it becoming National News are.

My belief is that, in some part due to NBC, there was a 'white' guy that had apparently said 'racists' things, shot a 'black' kid in Florida during an election year.

As it turns out however, the 'white' guy is 'hispanic', the 'racists' things that were supposedly said were not said.

So now you have a non-racist 'Hispanic' guy that shot a black kid. The 'sad' part is that a single case was used for a political goal. But, it is not unexpected. If I was 'black' I would be offended that this case took precedence over a black baby in Michigan getting shot by a black guy with an AK supposedly and barely any attention was payed to that case. But again this is not unpredictable.

Yes racism is being used, but it is being used in a disgusting manner. People are 'cherry' picking events for other purposes other than the people and communities involved concerns. They are using a chart off of the X-axis. Again, not unexpected.

See, people are starting to realize it and see through the haze and pull the curtain back on the wizard(s).

The simple truth is that the legal system is broke. There are many reasons for this as in to many laws, political laws for posterity, etc..., etc... People can add tons of reasons for it.

Do people really know what a 'Life Sentence' means today. 20 years out in 8 because of overcrowding and it cost to damn much to keep them in jail for 20 years.

Imagine if you told every criminal to not plead out to a crime and insist on a jury trial. The whole system would collapse.

But alas,

What bothers me the most about this whole case is that it was used to generate 'emotions' on both sides, rather than find justice.

I don't know if Zimmerman was being hit in the head and etc... Supposedly there was a witness to it. However, does Trayvon deserve to die for it? basically a fight. I don't know. But, I tell you what I do know.

There was a reason that people treated people with respect and didn't go out look for or getting into trouble in the days begone because if you did you might get killed.

As I mentioned earlier. You might not deserve to die if you go into a Hell's Angels biker bar and call them pu55ies, but don't be surprise when you are killed.

You are fucking idiot. Only soviet union lost over 25 million people in WW2, across the globe the number is around 70 million.

Fucking white trash retard.

Stalking is a crime.

Walk through downtown detroit and tell me about 'children.'

Why do you think gangs use 'children' to deal drugs. Hell, the gangs for the most part are children.

But you are correct, a 17 year old is to young to buy a beer. He, however, isn't to young to rob the convenient store to get a beer and kill the clerk for it.

It is not a crime for somebody to follow me.

It is not a crime for my assailant to shoot me once I start assaulting them and try to take their weapon.

The threat could have been eliminated by not chasing.  That whole chase thing is what makes Zimmerman guilty.  He chased someone who he had no previous interaction with.  Trayvon did not steal or injure from Zimmerman to warrant being chased. 

If Zimmerman is not guilty, then it is ok to chase anyone in your neighborhood out.  Even people who live there.  Who did nothing. 

Do you want someone following you, chasing you around your own neighborhood?

The law on self-defence does not allow you to say "This person was a thread 5 minutes ago so I will kill him now." 

A 17 year old is a child.  Too young to buy a beer.

Its rare for an unarmed 17 year old to be killed and the shooter not get arrested.  Even though Trayvon had ID on him, he was tagged as a John Doe and his family found him 3 days later.  The shooter may well have been acting in self-defence but the police have no excuse for the way the case was handled.

It is indeed self-defense if Trayvon was a threat beforehand. Assault and attempting to cease a weapon warrants a gun shot. The threat had to be eliminated.

Also, Trayvon was no child at the time of the shooting. He was a built, mature young man.

The 911 call with someone screaming for mercy and help is still there.  Shooting someone who is begging to be spared is not self-defence.  So if it was the child screaming, the prosecutor has a very strong case.  

If it was Zimmerman, then there shouldn't be a case against Zimmerman.

The only witness of the case says that Zimmerman was being beaten by Trayvon.

There is no evidence of wrong-doing. All signs point to rational self-defense. Zimmerman should not be arrested. The prosecutor has no case.

Although, Zimmerman and his lawyer prefers the custody of jail at this time.

I do understand that, I guess what I really meant had to do with how this is getting national if not international coverage, when it is just a shooting. It happens all the time near here, and you barely hear about it in the news.

Exactly Zimmerman had to be charged, let the courts decide.

Kind of foolhardy to say he shouldn't have been charged, it should be sorted out by people with access to all the facts (courts). Only thing we know is what the press wants to tell us, and they want to sell papers.

The only reason this blew up, and Zimmerman is being charged is because the media made it a race thing.

You are the first person I have seen saying that Martin "ran away, quite possibly reaching his domicile, then returned to the general area where he and Zimmerman last had visual contact."

In other words, you made it up.  

Vampire- all of your education aside- if you are confronted by a potentially drugged out gang-banger assaulting you for the benefit of looking macho with his group of friends egging him on, shooting multiple times at the legs is not the most prudent course of action to stop the attacker. Center of mass. The biggest possible target area for the most effective use of force to stop the attacker. That's the way to stop the assault and defend yourself.

In air defense school I am quite sure they did not teach you to shoot at the cables that controlled the wing flaps in order to disable the plane, I suspect they taught you to shoot at the biggest part of the plane you could see so that you could hit it and stop the attack on your homeland.

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