Everything continues and in my opinion looking for wood fuel is the easiest and most appropriate choice, firewood has abundant stock and will never run out so that it becomes the best option to avoid using gas that continues to skyrocket and dependence on gas will certainly make complex problems in the future.
Yes, firewood might bring a temporary solution or succour to Germany energy crisis, however, the implications of cutting down trees will lead to deforestation and flooding including climate change in that part of the country, climate change has been an issue of discuss globally by U.N.O and other organizations which was caused majorly by human activities, alternatively the German government should source for their energy shortages in Africa particularly in Nigeria where there is vast deposit of coal which can be imported to power thermal generating plants, cooking e.t.c. though they should consider it's implications on climate change. 
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October 22, 2022, 05:57:50 AM
October 22, 2022, 05:09:57 AM
Looking at the picture from this perspective: It is as if the war was not between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and Germany. I can't find where they are now, but according to some news I read, the German economy had a current account deficit for the first time in years. If the news is true, we can consider this crisis as a cold war period in the following years... No matter what happens, I am for peace and will always remain so. I hope this crisis is settled on the table and no more people suffer. I hope we all try to use the world's resources in a more balanced way and protect ourselves from such crises.
Not between Russia and Germany, but also Europe and US are confronting Russia, they want to use Ukraine as a scapegoat to completely destroy Russia. It can be said that Russia is the only power and the biggest rival of the US militarily, so this is the best chance for the US to completely destroy Russia. Nothing would have happened had the US not instigated Ukraine to join the Nato alliance led by them, I believe everything that happened today was caused by the US pulling the strings. On the one hand, using Ukraine to get Russia mired in war and deeper recession, on the other, continues to make Europe increasingly dependent on them. All the devastating wars in this world are caused by US, they are not as great as they claim, they are terrorists and want the whole world to submit to them.
October 21, 2022, 11:45:56 PM
The most important thing is that the EU has already completely replaced 2/3 of the gas supplies from the country of the terrorist. Those. not a one-time purchase of the necessary gas somewhere, but globally rebuilt gas supply channels. 1/3 of course still remains, but this is a matter of a fairly short time. Yesterday there was information that back in the summer of 2022, the EU believed that the replacement of gas supplies from Russia would take up to 7 years, but it turned out that they went through this path in a little more than half a year.~~~
Replacing the gas won't be very difficult. But the cost matters. Back in 2020, EU nations paid around €100 per thousand cubic meters of Russian pipeline natural gas. And a few weeks back, they were paying €3,000 per thousand cubic meters for LNG from Qatar. If you are happy with this, then I don't have anything to say. As of now, there is a limited supply of natural gas. And EU is competing for this limited supply, with East Asian nations. Some of the consumers who previously shipped gas to East Asian nations such as Japan and South Korea are diverting the supplies now to EU.
October 21, 2022, 07:16:06 PM
Looking at the picture from this perspective: It is as if the war was not between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and Germany. I can't find where they are now, but according to some news I read, the German economy had a current account deficit for the first time in years. If the news is true, we can consider this crisis as a cold war period in the following years... No matter what happens, I am for peace and will always remain so. I hope this crisis is settled on the table and no more people suffer. I hope we all try to use the world's resources in a more balanced way and protect ourselves from such crises.
October 21, 2022, 04:12:08 PM
While the Kremlin propagandists and their stooges are screaming and hysterical, trying to intimidate Europe, the reality looks like this:
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
It can be said that the EU may already have enough gas for this winter, but the EU really found a replacement for Russia in the future, I won't believe what you say. I dare to bet you that they have not been able to find a solution to replace the huge supply from Russia, gas from Norway is not enough for the whole of Europe, LNG from the US has become too expensive and not to mention transportation costs. In 2021, the price of ships carrying LNG will be from 30,000 to 300 thousand USD/day, but now this cost has exceeded 500 thousand/day and may continue to increase. This is seen as a temporary solution because winter has come and EU governments have almost run out of solutions, I believe they will soon find a way to reconnect the gas pipeline to Russia in any case.
The most important thing is that the EU has already completely replaced 2/3 of the gas supplies from the country of the terrorist. Those. not a one-time purchase of the necessary gas somewhere, but globally rebuilt gas supply channels. 1/3 of course still remains, but this is a matter of a fairly short time. Yesterday there was information that back in the summer of 2022, the EU believed that the replacement of gas supplies from Russia would take up to 7 years, but it turned out that they went through this path in a little more than half a year.
Concerning possible problems - I do not exclude. After all, Russia is an international terrorist country, and I do not exclude that they will continue to try to continue both military and economic terrorism against many countries.
Here is an example from Norway:
On Friday, a Norwegian court ordered a 50-year-old Russian citizen to be detained for two weeks after he admitted to flying two drones over the country, potentially over critical energy infrastructure.
In recent weeks, many drone sightings have been recorded near the country's offshore oil and gas platforms." - most likely these are attempts to obtain information about critical energy infrastructure nodes for possible new terrorist attacks.
https://www.dw.com/en/norway-russian-man-detained-with-2-drones-near-arctic/a-63441134
October 21, 2022, 12:43:08 PM
That's the best case scenario which is that EU has enough gas only for home users, so they'll have to shut down literary every industry they have that uses gas. The significant increase in price of wood, industries that shut down already and declared bankruptcy and some are on the brink of it, the temperature laws that some countries like Switzerland are going to start enforcing soon, etc. are all signs of severe gas shortage.
P.S. Worse case right now is if a new war breaks out in another region or two where Europe gets its energy from
P.S. Worse case right now is if a new war breaks out in another region or two where Europe gets its energy from
Azerbaijan ships in large quantities of pipeline gas to the EU, and the pipeline goes through Georgia. And back in 2008, there was a conflict between Russia and Georgia. Since the current regime in Georgia is not very hostile to Russia, the chances are very low. But still I won't rule out the possibilities. Nigeria and the Maghreb countries (especially Algeria) are also important sources of gas to the EU, and these countries are politically very volatile. Only stable suppliers are United States, Qatar and Australia.
October 21, 2022, 08:55:19 AM
It can be said that the EU may already have enough gas for this winter
That's the best case scenario which is that EU has enough gas only for home users, so they'll have to shut down literary every industry they have that uses gas. The significant increase in price of wood, industries that shut down already and declared bankruptcy and some are on the brink of it, the temperature laws that some countries like Switzerland are going to start enforcing soon, etc. are all signs of severe gas shortage.P.S. Worse case right now is if a new war breaks out in another region or two where Europe gets its energy from
October 21, 2022, 05:38:57 AM
While the Kremlin propagandists and their stooges are screaming and hysterical, trying to intimidate Europe, the reality looks like this:
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
It can be said that the EU may already have enough gas for this winter, but the EU really found a replacement for Russia in the future, I won't believe what you say. I dare to bet you that they have not been able to find a solution to replace the huge supply from Russia, gas from Norway is not enough for the whole of Europe, LNG from the US has become too expensive and not to mention transportation costs. In 2021, the price of ships carrying LNG will be from 30,000 to 300 thousand USD/day, but now this cost has exceeded 500 thousand/day and may continue to increase. This is seen as a temporary solution because winter has come and EU governments have almost run out of solutions, I believe they will soon find a way to reconnect the gas pipeline to Russia in any case.
October 21, 2022, 03:39:18 AM
While the Kremlin propagandists and their stooges are screaming and hysterical, trying to intimidate Europe, the reality looks like this:
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
The most curious thing about your comment is that you were able to write it at all on the day when electricity ran out in almost all of Ukraine and there were serious problems with Internet access. Write your Russophobic nonsense more often so that I can know that everything is all right with you. "It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
October 20, 2022, 07:03:08 PM
While the Kremlin propagandists and their stooges are screaming and hysterical, trying to intimidate Europe, the reality looks like this:
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
What is the solution here?, is it to use firewood, coal or restart the nuclear power plant?, and as I know European countries complain that the US is too greedy to sell LNG to them at exorbitant prices. One more thing about imposing a ceiling on gas and oil prices for Russia, so far 27 EU countries have not found a common voice to make a final statement. If they are confident that they no longer need Russian energy, they should not hesitate to make this statement. I am very curious to know how much more EU people have to spend to be able to use LNG let alone natural gas.
October 20, 2022, 10:42:35 AM
While the Kremlin propagandists and their stooges are screaming and hysterical, trying to intimidate Europe, the reality looks like this:
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
"It took Europe 8 months to find an alternative to Russian gas," said the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
"At first, we assumed that the Russian gas cutoff would last 7 years. Today, the facts are as follows: it took us only 8 months to replace two-thirds of the supply," she said.
And now the most important nuance - the international terrorist country has lost this market FOREVER! And besides selling to countries that don't care about "blood oil" (such as China and India), there are no options left. But there is also a nuance here - China and India are so "friendly to Russia" that they "put Russia on their elbows" and forced them to sell oil at a dumping price.
October 20, 2022, 07:51:44 AM
No one can predict it, but Europe is in a higher probability to be in a war, and it might not only be vs. Russia. It might be vs. China and North Korea as well.
I believe that there is a much higher chance that in the near future the Europeans start fighting each other rather than fighting a superpower thousands of kilometers away. Just like pre-World War 2 when they had a war every 2 or 3 years.Quote
It's those politicians that brought them in their current situation through years and years of careless policies.
Exactly. 
October 20, 2022, 03:26:35 AM
This is crazy, Germany in its history suffering alot. Country with good economic situation all of the sudden experiencing hard days. Country is experiencing drought that have revealed ancient stones and ships that sunk in the past. Opposite side it is experiencing the oil crisis, where the need for firewood peaks due to the lack of oil supply. In some part the labour shortage that keeps the production low and lack of components too a major problem as the country's economy is much on automotive industry. Now few banks are at the situation of closing and given its users deadline to withdraw the funds.
It's because they shut down their Nuclear power sources, replaced them with renewable energy, which we learned is unreliable, AND they made themselves reliant on Russia's natural gas as one of their main energy sources. Currently, they might have no other choice and turn on their fossil fuel power generation facilities because it's the easiest/fastest to bring back before winter.
No one can predict the war that will happen, if the only person who knows this war will happen can only be Russia because they are the one who started it. The fact that the Germans completely shut down fossil fuel energy production facilities is because they are thinking about global warming. But things wouldn't be as serious or as bad as they are if they weren't instigated by the Biden government to punish Russia. I think the Russians themselves could not have foreseen a drastic reaction from the EU towards them and vice versa. The biggest beneficiary in this case remains the Biden government.
No one can predict it, but Europe is in a higher probability to be in a war, and it might not only be vs. Russia. It might be vs. China and North Korea as well.
The Black Swan, a Tactical Nuclear War. I believe that will crash ALL markets lower than COVID-19 Panic.
It's because they shut down their Nuclear power sources, replaced them with renewable energy, which we learned is unreliable, AND they made themselves reliant on Russia's natural gas as one of their main energy sources. Currently, they might have no other choice and turn on their fossil fuel power generation facilities because it's the easiest/fastest to bring back before winter.
The problem is not about electricity to be solved by using nuclear power plant(s), it is all about the massive industries that were built in Germany which relied heavily on natural gas. As I've said before, they built their massive industrial economy on top of resources they never had which was the biggest mistake they made.Whether Germany built an industry that relied on Natural Gas exports or not, the fact that they turned off their Nuclear power plants, and made themselves dependent on Russia is the main problem.
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This is one of the problems of globalization (ie. interdependence). Each country should learn to rely on itself base on their own geography and resources they have not what they have to import.
Globalization is merely the narrative. It's those politicians that brought them in their current situation through years and years of careless policies.
October 19, 2022, 04:16:36 PM
While the Kremlin's propagandists and their supporters are moaning, squealing and trying with all their might to convince Europe that it will freeze and will not live at all without gas from the country of an international terrorist, the gas market shows a steep dive!
From 14/10/2022 to 19/10/2022 the price fell from 6.5 to 5.44
https://ru.investing.com/commodities/natural-gas
And here is the online chart.
By the way, Urals oil, the same terrorists, also follows down after gas.
Germany and gas storages:
August 14, 2022 - approximately 75%
September 20, 2022 - just over 90%
October 20 - Guess how many?
From 14/10/2022 to 19/10/2022 the price fell from 6.5 to 5.44
https://ru.investing.com/commodities/natural-gas
And here is the online chart.
By the way, Urals oil, the same terrorists, also follows down after gas.
Germany and gas storages:
August 14, 2022 - approximately 75%
September 20, 2022 - just over 90%
October 20 - Guess how many?
October 19, 2022, 04:02:51 PM
The prices of gas has over increased due to this Russia war on Ukraine. Firewood is not a clean energy but if it's a means of survival it's okay, more trees will be planted but the people need survive. Europe should look towards Africa and Middle East for their crude oil, this they should have longed envisage.
October 19, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
It's because they shut down their Nuclear power sources, replaced them with renewable energy, which we learned is unreliable, AND they made themselves reliant on Russia's natural gas as one of their main energy sources. Currently, they might have no other choice and turn on their fossil fuel power generation facilities because it's the easiest/fastest to bring back before winter.
The problem is not about electricity to be solved by using nuclear power plant(s), it is all about the massive industries that were built in Germany which relied heavily on natural gas. As I've said before, they built their massive industrial economy on top of resources they never had which was the biggest mistake they made.This is one of the problems of globalization (ie. interdependence). Each country should learn to rely on itself base on their own geography and resources they have not what they have to import.
October 19, 2022, 10:36:05 AM
This is crazy, Germany in its history suffering alot. Country with good economic situation all of the sudden experiencing hard days. Country is experiencing drought that have revealed ancient stones and ships that sunk in the past. Opposite side it is experiencing the oil crisis, where the need for firewood peaks due to the lack of oil supply. In some part the labour shortage that keeps the production low and lack of components too a major problem as the country's economy is much on automotive industry. Now few banks are at the situation of closing and given its users deadline to withdraw the funds.
It's because they shut down their Nuclear power sources, replaced them with renewable energy, which we learned is unreliable, AND they made themselves reliant on Russia's natural gas as one of their main energy sources. Currently, they might have no other choice and turn on their fossil fuel power generation facilities because it's the easiest/fastest to bring back before winter.
No one can predict the war that will happen, if the only person who knows this war will happen can only be Russia because they are the one who started it. The fact that the Germans completely shut down fossil fuel energy production facilities is because they are thinking about global warming. But things wouldn't be as serious or as bad as they are if they weren't instigated by the Biden government to punish Russia. I think the Russians themselves could not have foreseen a drastic reaction from the EU towards them and vice versa. The biggest beneficiary in this case remains the Biden government.
October 19, 2022, 07:59:24 AM
This is crazy, Germany in its history suffering alot. Country with good economic situation all of the sudden experiencing hard days. Country is experiencing drought that have revealed ancient stones and ships that sunk in the past. Opposite side it is experiencing the oil crisis, where the need for firewood peaks due to the lack of oil supply. In some part the labour shortage that keeps the production low and lack of components too a major problem as the country's economy is much on automotive industry. Now few banks are at the situation of closing and given its users deadline to withdraw the funds.
It's because they shut down their Nuclear power sources, replaced them with renewable energy, which we learned is unreliable, AND they made themselves reliant on Russia's natural gas as one of their main energy sources. Currently, they might have no other choice and turn on their fossil fuel power generation facilities because it's the easiest/fastest to bring back before winter.
October 14, 2022, 06:53:08 PM
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It is not the German only - it is the whole world which is dealing with so much trouble
Businesses are collapsing and industries are shutting - there is depression and despair everywhere.
And I don't see anything fixing in coming days.
It is not the whole world, it is most of the world and the severity of the problems is wildly different from country to country. For example the effects in Iran are very small, in fact our inflation has significantly decreased alongside the unemployment rate as the industries are expanding and a lot of new factories opened up this year.It is not the German only - it is the whole world which is dealing with so much trouble
Businesses are collapsing and industries are shutting - there is depression and despair everywhere.
And I don't see anything fixing in coming days.
There are others like this too, last I checked Indian economy was improving too with their stock market booming. Some small positive news came out of US too where they are trying to decrease unemployment and how they tried to decrease the domestic gas price to some extent after they blew up their LNG ports.
like Russia survived inflation and sanction because they have oil reserves - even the whole EU turned against them they stood tall and saved their economy
October 19, 2022, 02:18:23 AM
This is crazy, Germany in its history suffering alot. Country with good economic situation all of the sudden experiencing hard days. Country is experiencing drought that have revealed ancient stones and ships that sunk in the past. Opposite side it is experiencing the oil crisis, where the need for firewood peaks due to the lack of oil supply. In some part the labour shortage that keeps the production low and lack of components too a major problem as the country's economy is much on automotive industry. Now few banks are at the situation of closing and given its users deadline to withdraw the funds.
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