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Quote from: piebeyb on June 10, 2023, 08:24:52 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

I think Dortmund will also buy new players to replace Bellingham's position for league competition next season, I know Dortmund has always been smart in selecting players and educating them to become great players, I believe Dortmund will be a tough competitor for Munchem in the hunt for the title next season considering their failure in this season because of goal difference.

Dortmund's failure this season, of course, must be paid dearly, so they will prepare a new strategy and several new players to compete next season with Munich, which is why they let Bellingham go.

Surely Dortmund will be ready to compete next season with Bayern Munich and they certainly did not accept the narrow point defeat in the standings which made Dortmund fail to win the Bundesliga trophy this season. After getting fresh funds from the sale of Bellingham, I think Dortmund will soon make an approach to some other youth targets and as usual they will be successful in nurturing the talent of the young player so that he becomes a very important player for the club. Dortmund will still be one of the successful teams in the bundesliga and the hope now is to end their drought so far.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 10, 2023, 06:23:36 AM

Leverkusen started a really good run with Xabi Alonso's arrival as we have talked about here before. Maybe they started to mess up a bit while we were getting close to the end of the season in the Bundesliga but the position they finished at is still impressive. Because we were talking about even the probability of their relegation before Xabi Alonso. Maybe it was still early to talk about that but their look was really bad.

Now Xabi Alonso has drawn the attention of even some big teams so I wonder how successful he can be next season. I believe the board will have an expectation like to qualify for the Champions League next time. Xabi Alonso's system has worked well in general and I think it will be enough to be in top 4 fight next time as well.

There is no doubt about Leverkusen revolution in this season and Xabi Alonso influence on this team because their performance was worst before his entry, and he has done amazing job without spending huge funds which is surely his managerial skills which helps them for having good end of this season even with their performance once mostly peoples were feeling they will be won Europa Cup, but they choke and lost few crucial matches which give them no good end but still better than good end of this season.

Now expectations are high with chance for the Champions League surely this is going to be big test because now we have reported many big clubs are looking for him with specially Real Madrid which is having end of contract with Carlos Ancelotti hopefully this all will give him good confidence for the better performance in next season and have dream end of the season as well.

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Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Don't worry. It's dortmund's business. This team will be always doing it forever. Winning a trophy was just bonus but generating more and more money from selling developed players are very smart.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

There will always be no guarantee for any seasons. The winner will remain unperdictable but bayern mostly winning the league. Dortmund will able to find the new players that have capability to replace the old one that was leaving from the club.
You shall not feel worry about dortmund. This club knows what he has been doing by selling player.

they can get the new player that have same potential like the old one.

I honestly don't worry about what they always do, because it's clear profit is what they aim for. But they should also think about their supporters, especially as we know Borussia Dortmund fans are unquestionably loyal supporters.
I try to position myself as a supporter where I really want my proud club to win a title. Clubs and supporters are something that cannot be separated, they contribute to a club from external factors. And also they should be able to target more extraordinary things, than they have always targeted so far, from what I see they are only targeting a position below Bayern Munich, that's from my point of view.

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Leverkusen started a really good run with Xabi Alonso's arrival as we have talked about here before. Maybe they started to mess up a bit while we were getting close to the end of the season in the Bundesliga but the position they finished at is still impressive. Because we were talking about even the probability of their relegation before Xabi Alonso. Maybe it was still early to talk about that but their look was really bad.

I also think that Xabi Alonso is doing a great job at Bayer Leverkusen. I still remember, that when he took over the first few games were not successful for him and his club and i was already afraid that his time at Leverkusen could be over again pretty quickly, but then it seemed like the players began to understand his system and the way he wants to play football and finally the good results came in.
Alonso seems to be one of those former big players that also have a talent for being a good coach. Other former big players like Frank Lampard are acting very unlucky so far as a head coach but Alonso is doing a great job and already caught the attention of other clubs. I hope that he will stay at Bayer for at least one more year though.

Leverkusen has performed well under Xabi Alonso. If they can continue performing like that in the next season, I think he will be approached by a good amount of bigger clubs. But for that, first of all, he will have to be successful with Leverkusen.

I also do not think that he is finding success with Leverkusen. He will actually stay. He will move to a bigger club after that. A place in the top four is certainly going to be great for them. And I also agree that it did feel like they are improving under him. But to say that they will certainly finish in the top four it’s going to be making a statement a little too early in my opinion.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Don't worry. It's dortmund's business. This team will be always doing it forever. Winning a trophy was just bonus but generating more and more money from selling developed players are very smart.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

There will always be no guarantee for any seasons. The winner will remain unperdictable but bayern mostly winning the league. Dortmund will able to find the new players that have capability to replace the old one that was leaving from the club.
You shall not feel worry about dortmund. This club knows what he has been doing by selling player.

they can get the new player that have same potential like the old one.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 10, 2023, 01:52:46 AM

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They spent this huge amount of money on their team and Bayer Munich is definitely the richest team in Bundesliga and maybe one of the richest teams in the world that's why a team like Dortmund or Leipzig can't stand against them.
If you invest more you can expect to see more wards and that's what we saw in Dortmund and Bayern Munich.
Just check the last Bundesliga champions and you can see Bayern is the champion of Germany for years.

Dortmund just get closer to Bayern Munich before dropping at some point and letting them advance alone. This season was an epic one since Dortmund gave literally the title to Bayern Munich at the very end after being in advance..
The other seasons weren't different with sometimes Bayern being dominating and sometimes close to the others. Even Leipzig was fluctuating badly. Schalke were runners-up many times in the past and now they are nowhere in 1.Bundesliga..

Yes, the ability of Bayern Munich, which is better than other teams in the Bundesliga, has become a weapon for them to dominate the Bundesliga. I see that ability actually exists in Borussia dortmund, but for some reason they can't use it properly and instead it's like letting Bayern Munich go alone. This season was a very painful season for Borussia Dortmund, because they had to fail with different goal productivity.

Not the ability but I would say the financial power of Bayern Munich is more than other teams and they spent much more than other teams, that's why I think Bayern Munich will continue winning the title in the Bundesliga next season.

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Quote from: terrorJR on June 09, 2023, 02:24:39 PM

That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.

Yes, that's right, the key is consistency and it's not easy. Union Berlin is indeed a football club that is really very surprising because it always appears in three European competitions in a row starting from UECL, UEL and UCL, even though Union Berlin was promoted to the highest caste of the German league in the 2019-2020 season but Union Berlin can immediately become subscription appear in European competition every season. hopefully Union Berlin can talk a lot and make new surprises in the UCL next season. Hard work and humility became the key to success for Union Berlin in the European Champions League for the first time in history.

Union Berlin had a good performance but just for a few weeks and they were even racing with Bayern Munich and Dortmund closely the fact about this team is they don't have enough power compared to Bayern Munich but even being in fourth place in the table was not something bad for this team.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

I'm very sure with this pattern I don't think Dortmund will be able to win any trophy because giving out their best player means it is impossible for them to have a better squad. If Dortmund must win trophy they should be able to package the best players in order to win a trophy. This haa always been the pattern of Dortmund and it normally ends up with the same results.

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Quote from: piebeyb on June 10, 2023, 08:24:52 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

I think Dortmund will also buy new players to replace Bellingham's position for league competition next season, I know Dortmund has always been smart in selecting players and educating them to become great players, I believe Dortmund will be a tough competitor for Munchem in the hunt for the title next season considering their failure in this season because of goal difference.

Dortmund's failure this season, of course, must be paid dearly, so they will prepare a new strategy and several new players to compete next season with Munich, which is why they let Bellingham go.

Surely they will bring in players who will replace the players who left, but there is no guarantee that these players will be able to play as well as the players who left Borussia Dortmund.
Borussia Dortmund's ability cannot be doubted to be able to print quality young players, that is one of their best abilities. But what's unfortunate is when they have this ability but they can't make the most of it for them, I mean after they create good players, they sell them and the results are enjoyed by other clubs, that's their shortcoming in my opinion.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

It's incredibly unfortunate to always be ranked second on the table despite putting up a strong race but not winning is a loss, allowing the Bavarians to push their dominance in the bundesliga title race. Is it because they don't value the Bundesliga title or that they are incompetent to win it? They are completely capable of winning it if they put in more regular efforts. Borrusia Dortmund is widely recognized for selling valuable players; this is not the first time they've done it; they've been doing so for over a decade. Every season, the club offers one notable player to elite clubs. Christian Pulisic to Chelsea, Robert Lewandowski to Bayern Munich, Jadon Sancho to Manchester United, and Erling Haaland to Manchester City are just a few examples, presently Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 10, 2023, 08:02:18 AM

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

I think Dortmund will also buy new players to replace Bellingham's position for league competition next season, I know Dortmund has always been smart in selecting players and educating them to become great players, I believe Dortmund will be a tough competitor for Munchem in the hunt for the title next season considering their failure in this season because of goal difference.

Dortmund's failure this season, of course, must be paid dearly, so they will prepare a new strategy and several new players to compete next season with Munich, which is why they let Bellingham go.

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Besides, we should not be using the financial stand of a club to be judging all the time, maybe we can learn from Seria A this season, it's more about the coach and the team thereof. Once they are good and determined to play, then they can be so surprising.

Isn't it a bit too romantic to say it is more about the coach?

I fully understand you on this, but it's obvious you took the words out of context, or you didn't read it in full. Coach has a very vital role in football but I can never give the praise of the success of any club to them alone. If you read my full post, you would realize that my defence is more about Bayern, many believe that their winning was not merited, which I don't accept. And I further iterated the effect of the coach and the entire team as determinants of the success of a club in most cases.

You can read it again to verify that.

I get what you said and my intention wasn't to take anything out of context. I apologize if it sounded like that. But what I wanted to say is you are right when it is not about luck that Bayern won the title, but there is something like "did they win it or did somebody else lose it?". I would say that this season Dortmund lost the title more than Bayern won it. Dortmund screwed it up so badly that they actually made Bayern win the title instead of Bayern made themselves win the title. Do you know what I mean?

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Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 10, 2023, 06:23:36 AM

Leverkusen started a really good run with Xabi Alonso's arrival as we have talked about here before. Maybe they started to mess up a bit while we were getting close to the end of the season in the Bundesliga but the position they finished at is still impressive. Because we were talking about even the probability of their relegation before Xabi Alonso. Maybe it was still early to talk about that but their look was really bad.

I also think that Xabi Alonso is doing a great job at Bayer Leverkusen. I still remember, that when he took over the first few games were not successful for him and his club and i was already afraid that his time at Leverkusen could be over again pretty quickly, but then it seemed like the players began to understand his system and the way he wants to play football and finally the good results came in.
Alonso seems to be one of those former big players that also have a talent for being a good coach. Other former big players like Frank Lampard are acting very unlucky so far as a head coach but Alonso is doing a great job and already caught the attention of other clubs. I hope that he will stay at Bayer for at least one more year though.

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Leverkusen started a really good run with Xabi Alonso's arrival as we have talked about here before. Maybe they started to mess up a bit while we were getting close to the end of the season in the Bundesliga but the position they finished at is still impressive. Because we were talking about even the probability of their relegation before Xabi Alonso. Maybe it was still early to talk about that but their look was really bad.

Now Xabi Alonso has drawn the attention of even some big teams so I wonder how successful he can be next season. I believe the board will have an expectation like to qualify for the Champions League next time. Xabi Alonso's system has worked well in general and I think it will be enough to be in top 4 fight next time as well.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 10, 2023, 01:52:46 AM

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They spent this huge amount of money on their team and Bayer Munich is definitely the richest team in Bundesliga and maybe one of the richest teams in the world that's why a team like Dortmund or Leipzig can't stand against them.
If you invest more you can expect to see more wards and that's what we saw in Dortmund and Bayern Munich.
Just check the last Bundesliga champions and you can see Bayern is the champion of Germany for years.

Dortmund just get closer to Bayern Munich before dropping at some point and letting them advance alone. This season was an epic one since Dortmund gave literally the title to Bayern Munich at the very end after being in advance..
The other seasons weren't different with sometimes Bayern being dominating and sometimes close to the others. Even Leipzig was fluctuating badly. Schalke were runners-up many times in the past and now they are nowhere in 1.Bundesliga..

Yes, the ability of Bayern Munich, which is better than other teams in the Bundesliga, has become a weapon for them to dominate the Bundesliga. I see that ability actually exists in Borussia dortmund, but for some reason they can't use it properly and instead it's like letting Bayern Munich go alone. This season was a very painful season for Borussia Dortmund, because they had to fail with different goal productivity.

Sometimes I have to applaud Dortmund not even to blame them for not winning the Bundesliga title. Even for them to make the effort to compete with Bayern at the top is a very welcome achievement. If you look at the financial stand of Dortmund and Bayern Munich even compared to other clubs in the German Bundesliga. You will understand that Bayern is just intimidating the other clubs with money and in as much as no one want to compete with them just as the case of PSG in Ligue 1. They will continue to be the Champions till enouhh money is invested in one of the clubs to compete with them.

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Quote from: bbigtart on June 10, 2023, 02:11:12 AM

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That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.

Yes, that's right, the key is consistency and it's not easy. Union Berlin is indeed a football club that is really very surprising because it always appears in three European competitions in a row starting from UECL, UEL and UCL, even though Union Berlin was promoted to the highest caste of the German league in the 2019-2020 season but Union Berlin can immediately become subscription appear in European competition every season. hopefully Union Berlin can talk a lot and make new surprises in the UCL next season. Hard work and humility became the key to success for Union Berlin in the European Champions League for the first time in history.

The Union Berlin team is expected to perform well in the Bundesliga next season. As there is no chance of securing the title this time around, the team will want to prepare themselves for the next edition. But the coach of the team has arranged the team in a new way which can be seen.

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Quote from: terrorJR on June 09, 2023, 02:24:39 PM

That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.

Yes, that's right, the key is consistency and it's not easy. Union Berlin is indeed a football club that is really very surprising because it always appears in three European competitions in a row starting from UECL, UEL and UCL, even though Union Berlin was promoted to the highest caste of the German league in the 2019-2020 season but Union Berlin can immediately become subscription appear in European competition every season. hopefully Union Berlin can talk a lot and make new surprises in the UCL next season. Hard work and humility became the key to success for Union Berlin in the European Champions League for the first time in history.

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That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.

The consistency possessed by Union Berlin is much bigger and better than other clubs in the Bundesliga so that Union Berlin manages to get a ticket to the Champions League next season with very good determination. Because Union Berlin will definitely try to be better next season, especially if Union Berlin is very aware that it is an ordinary team, but it can become extraordinary after being consistent and successfully finishing the season in fourth place.

Union Berlin is one of the teams in the Bundesliga League that made the league to be more interesting this season, their performance were very solid they were able to be at the top of the league for a while with a good amount of points. Yes they could not maintain their position at the top but for them to qualify in the Champions League next season is a great achievement for them.

It will also be a better experience to meet with big teams in Champions League and this experience of being in the top four teams in Bundesliga will motivate them to do better in next season. I don't blame Union Berlin for unable to be at the top of the league for a long time I think this is something new to them that they have no experience of, next season is another opportunity for them to be better to hold to better to better position better than this.

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They spent this huge amount of money on their team and Bayer Munich is definitely the richest team in Bundesliga and maybe one of the richest teams in the world that's why a team like Dortmund or Leipzig can't stand against them.
If you invest more you can expect to see more wards and that's what we saw in Dortmund and Bayern Munich.
Just check the last Bundesliga champions and you can see Bayern is the champion of Germany for years.

Dortmund just get closer to Bayern Munich before dropping at some point and letting them advance alone. This season was an epic one since Dortmund gave literally the title to Bayern Munich at the very end after being in advance..
The other seasons weren't different with sometimes Bayern being dominating and sometimes close to the others. Even Leipzig was fluctuating badly. Schalke were runners-up many times in the past and now they are nowhere in 1.Bundesliga..

Yes, the ability of Bayern Munich, which is better than other teams in the Bundesliga, has become a weapon for them to dominate the Bundesliga. I see that ability actually exists in Borussia dortmund, but for some reason they can't use it properly and instead it's like letting Bayern Munich go alone. This season was a very painful season for Borussia Dortmund, because they had to fail with different goal productivity.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 09, 2023, 04:50:50 PM

It was a really solid season for Leipzig as well. Because they didn't just make do with a Champions League qualification. They won the DFB Pokal title as well which has become quite a tradition for them recently. Because they won this title twice in a row. Of course Bayern Munich's not caring about this cup is also some help but I wouldn't like to underestimate Leipzig's success anyway of course. This is exactly a consistency example for Leipzig as they have been getting the same successes for two seasons.

Maybe they can't go for the title race until the end of a season but I'm pretty sure there is no such expectation from them now. Because technically they are the 3rd strongest in the Bundesliga but their squad quality is still far from competing with Bayern Munich at the same level.

You maybe still remember Leipzig has starting this season with poor performance because at the beginning of league Leipzig only collect 5 points from 5 matches and this also caused their previous manager Domenico Tedesco has been sacked and luckily they were hire Marco Rose and as Dortmund ex he has been done a great job for Leipzig because at the end of season Leipzig can able to finish at 3rd place and automatically will playing at champion league

Besides that Marco Rose also has successfully to resumes the achievement of last season that defend DFB pokal trophy and this is very special because Marco Rose did this only in a few months since arrived to Leipzig but to compete for race title with Bayern Munich i think a bit impossible for them because in my opinion the closest team who possibly can be the opponent of Bayern Munich for race title is Dortmund but for Leipzig i think possible target for them is only top 4 again or champion league spots

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