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But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

There are certainly several factors that lead to a drop in performance. Problems with the team or the coach, as you have already written. Maybe you do not feel comfortable in the city. The family is not happy at the new place. The structure in the club is not what you have expected. Just like it is in real life. This can also happen to non-footballers when they change a job.

This reason sounds quite reasonable and it seems that it will be difficult for any player if they don't socialize with their surroundings. Football playing is also a profession and it is certainly not easy to adapt to the culture of a different country when pursuing a career at a new club. Sometimes language problems are also often an obstacle because when players have difficulty communicating with colleagues or coaches it can become a misunderstanding on the field so that it will be difficult for these players to develop.

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Quote from: Unknown Op on June 08, 2023, 06:39:50 AM

It is obvious that Bayern Munich dominates in a number of areas including reputation financial resources and infrastructure. The Bundesliga championship however measures actual strength on the pitch which goes beyond having a roster full of illustrious players. Numerous variables must come together for a team to be the strongest over the course of the full season not just for a single game or month. The game mental component and any potential complacency that results from ongoing success can have a big impact. It is usual for a team used to winning to mistakenly let its guard down giving hungry and tenacious teams a chance. Such events occurred during this Bundesliga season but ultimately everyone saw the expected conclusion.

I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.

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Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

Bayern Munich strength this season is quite good, this was evident before the change of coach occurred where Bayern Munich was able to put great pressure on the Champions League and the Bundesliga. Now their performance was quite stunning at the start of the season and even Moting was one of the players who was able to make a big contribution to Bayern Munich. However, slowly or rather during the second half of the season, Bayern experienced a slight decline in their performance and a change of coach made them lose balance and things it became one of the factors that they need time under coach tuchel.

Apart from that, I think Bayern Munich is still the strongest team in the Bundesliga this season, we can guess that Bayern Munich will learn from their mistakes in the Champions League this season and this will soon be addressed by Bayern Munich management in the transfer window.

Bayern Munich has the highest capacities in many respects. Reputation, financials, infrastructure etc. But whether they are the strongest team or not is decided by the Bundesliga title as I think having the best names on paper doesn't mean you are the strongest team. There are a lot of ingredients that need to be on point in order to be the strongest team on a match day, for a month, but also for an entire season. The mental aspect and also saturation of success can play a role. It happens quite often that when a club is used to winning all the time, at some point they start relaxing unintentionally and this is where teams that are more hungry for success can geht their chance. We saw that this season in the Bundesliga, but everyone knows how it ended.

It is obvious that Bayern Munich dominates in a number of areas including reputation financial resources and infrastructure. The Bundesliga championship however measures actual strength on the pitch which goes beyond having a roster full of illustrious players. Numerous variables must come together for a team to be the strongest over the course of the full season not just for a single game or month. The game mental component and any potential complacency that results from ongoing success can have a big impact. It is usual for a team used to winning to mistakenly let its guard down giving hungry and tenacious teams a chance. Such events occurred during this Bundesliga season but ultimately everyone saw the expected conclusion.

I won't accept anything like a mistake winning or luck here, Bayern Munich might not be in their utmost feat but they deserve what they got, after all, they didn't get to the first 2 levels by chance before they eventually win the league among the 18 clubs who contested it. Bayern Munich is a strong name in Bundesliga and might retain this for a longer time, and even now, they are facing challenges, if not, the point they were supposed to gap their next opponent should be much. This is the same thing that cost them the Champions League, but let's be patient for Tuchel, though his first impressions are not good, I still believe in the club.

Besides, we should not be using the financial stand of a club to be judging all the time, maybe we can learn from Seria A this season, it's more about the coach and the team thereof. Once they are good and determined to play, then they can be so surprising.

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Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

Bayern Munich strength this season is quite good, this was evident before the change of coach occurred where Bayern Munich was able to put great pressure on the Champions League and the Bundesliga. Now their performance was quite stunning at the start of the season and even Moting was one of the players who was able to make a big contribution to Bayern Munich. However, slowly or rather during the second half of the season, Bayern experienced a slight decline in their performance and a change of coach made them lose balance and things it became one of the factors that they need time under coach tuchel.

Apart from that, I think Bayern Munich is still the strongest team in the Bundesliga this season, we can guess that Bayern Munich will learn from their mistakes in the Champions League this season and this will soon be addressed by Bayern Munich management in the transfer window.

Bayern Munich has the highest capacities in many respects. Reputation, financials, infrastructure etc. But whether they are the strongest team or not is decided by the Bundesliga title as I think having the best names on paper doesn't mean you are the strongest team. There are a lot of ingredients that need to be on point in order to be the strongest team on a match day, for a month, but also for an entire season. The mental aspect and also saturation of success can play a role. It happens quite often that when a club is used to winning all the time, at some point they start relaxing unintentionally and this is where teams that are more hungry for success can geht their chance. We saw that this season in the Bundesliga, but everyone knows how it ended.

It is obvious that Bayern Munich dominates in a number of areas including reputation financial resources and infrastructure. The Bundesliga championship however measures actual strength on the pitch which goes beyond having a roster full of illustrious players. Numerous variables must come together for a team to be the strongest over the course of the full season not just for a single game or month. The game mental component and any potential complacency that results from ongoing success can have a big impact. It is usual for a team used to winning to mistakenly let its guard down giving hungry and tenacious teams a chance. Such events occurred during this Bundesliga season but ultimately everyone saw the expected conclusion.

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2023, 04:57:45 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on June 08, 2023, 04:31:19 AM

But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

There are certainly several factors that lead to a drop in performance. Problems with the team or the coach, as you have already written. Maybe you do not feel comfortable in the city. The family is not happy at the new place. The structure in the club is not what you have expected. Just like it is in real life. This can also happen to non-footballers when they change a job.

But I do not see many players who left Dortmund and declined drastically. It is understandable that they may drop in form but a while they still pick up to their form again, just like what happens to other footballers.
Let's say Haaland;
- He is doing great and went to the perfect club.
Let's say Aubameyang;
-He performed good in his Arsenal days and layer dropped because age isn't by his side.
Let's say Sancho:
-To me Sancho hasn't been that great and exceptional player everyone thought he was, but there is room for improvement considering his age.
-Jude Bellingham will not disappoint.

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2023, 04:57:45 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on June 08, 2023, 04:31:19 AM

But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

There are certainly several factors that lead to a drop in performance. Problems with the team or the coach, as you have already written. Maybe you do not feel comfortable in the city. The family is not happy at the new place. The structure in the club is not what you have expected. Just like it is in real life. This can also happen to non-footballers when they change a job.

Obviously there are many factors that make a player drop dramatically when he is at his new club, it is something we see very often in football. Sometimes factors outside of logic can also influence, for example from a striker, in the game they are still playing well but they forget how to score goals even though they get lots of chances.

For example, what happened to Benzema a few seasons ago, he had a lot of trouble scoring goals, even though he always got the opportunity in every game, until finally there was a moment when the club's fans booed Benzema because they thought he didn't know how to score goals. I think it was a bad luck that season, because now we know how much Benzema contributed to Real Madrid, even though he had to leave in the end.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 08, 2023, 04:31:19 AM

But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

There are certainly several factors that lead to a drop in performance. Problems with the team or the coach, as you have already written. Maybe you do not feel comfortable in the city. The family is not happy at the new place. The structure in the club is not what you have expected. Just like it is in real life. This can also happen to non-footballers when they change a job.

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In this season, Dortmund made a big profit just by releasing Jude Bellingham to Madrid. not to mention, there are several other players that other big clubs might be interested in, for example, Adeyemi whose performance is starting to improve towards the end of this season. it could also be Youssoufa Maukoko who was linked with several big clubs who were interested in him. So far, Dortmund is a successful club with their business style even without much support from sponsors and ticket sales.

Dortmund was always a club who made a lot of profit by selling their players. And the sum for Bellingham is huge. They bought him for 25 million euros in 2020 and now he is to be sold for 103 million euros. Although his contract runs until 2025, they have already decided to sell him. I do not know if it would be better to wait for another year. He has performed really well since 2020.

Yeah Dortmund are smart at picking up players and developing and selling them too. They have developed lot of good players over the years and sold them mostly over 70-80m Euro mark easily. Also Dortmund are not the type of club to hold down a player when player wants to move. In here Bellingham already wanted to move to Madrid and Dortmund as usual don't want to hold the player as usual. I haven't seen them trying to convince a player who wants to move to stay.

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Dortmund was always a club who made a lot of profit by selling their players. And the sum for Bellingham is huge. They bought him for 25 million euros in 2020 and now he is to be sold for 103 million euros. Although his contract runs until 2025, they have already decided to sell him. I do not know if it would be better to wait for another year. He has performed really well since 2020.

Dortmund are working very well in this direction, it is worth selling a player when he is in great shape and there is a lot of demand for him. They’ll wait another year, maybe the price will rise a little, but I’m sure it won’t be significant, but during this time the player may get injured, or he may have a recession, so there’s no need to take risks, this is Dortmund’s strategy, they have always sold promising players, they earn big money this way.

That is what has made Dortmund successful over the past few seasons, their club management has been so smart in taking advantage of the moment to attract the attention of several teams to be able to compete for one of their talented players and I think what Dortmund has done has been one of the business tactics so far. Dortmund succeeded in selling Erling Haaland at the start of the season and now they have managed to sell Jude Bellingham at the end of the season, two fantastic transfers that only Dortmund could do.

But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2023, 02:48:22 AM

Dortmund was always a club who made a lot of profit by selling their players. And the sum for Bellingham is huge. They bought him for 25 million euros in 2020 and now he is to be sold for 103 million euros. Although his contract runs until 2025, they have already decided to sell him. I do not know if it would be better to wait for another year. He has performed really well since 2020.

Dortmund are working very well in this direction, it is worth selling a player when he is in great shape and there is a lot of demand for him. They’ll wait another year, maybe the price will rise a little, but I’m sure it won’t be significant, but during this time the player may get injured, or he may have a recession, so there’s no need to take risks, this is Dortmund’s strategy, they have always sold promising players, they earn big money this way.

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Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

Bayern Munich strength this season is quite good, this was evident before the change of coach occurred where Bayern Munich was able to put great pressure on the Champions League and the Bundesliga. Now their performance was quite stunning at the start of the season and even Moting was one of the players who was able to make a big contribution to Bayern Munich. However, slowly or rather during the second half of the season, Bayern experienced a slight decline in their performance and a change of coach made them lose balance and things it became one of the factors that they need time under coach tuchel.

Apart from that, I think Bayern Munich is still the strongest team in the Bundesliga this season, we can guess that Bayern Munich will learn from their mistakes in the Champions League this season and this will soon be addressed by Bayern Munich management in the transfer window.

Bayern Munich has the highest capacities in many respects. Reputation, financials, infrastructure etc. But whether they are the strongest team or not is decided by the Bundesliga title as I think having the best names on paper doesn't mean you are the strongest team. There are a lot of ingredients that need to be on point in order to be the strongest team on a match day, for a month, but also for an entire season. The mental aspect and also saturation of success can play a role. It happens quite often that when a club is used to winning all the time, at some point they start relaxing unintentionally and this is where teams that are more hungry for success can geht their chance. We saw that this season in the Bundesliga, but everyone knows how it ended.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on June 07, 2023, 02:07:26 PM

In this season, Dortmund made a big profit just by releasing Jude Bellingham to Madrid. not to mention, there are several other players that other big clubs might be interested in, for example, Adeyemi whose performance is starting to improve towards the end of this season. it could also be Youssoufa Maukoko who was linked with several big clubs who were interested in him. So far, Dortmund is a successful club with their business style even without much support from sponsors and ticket sales.

Dortmund was always a club who made a lot of profit by selling their players. And the sum for Bellingham is huge. They bought him for 25 million euros in 2020 and now he is to be sold for 103 million euros. Although his contract runs until 2025, they have already decided to sell him. I do not know if it would be better to wait for another year. He has performed really well since 2020.

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I don't have Bayern Munich but I think they usually win the league because other teams are not investing well enough and other teams make huge mistakes otherwise Bayern Munich couldn't win this league at all in a normal situation because of having unstable results and unstable situation in their team.
Dortmund could have a much better performance and this way they would not lose this chance for this season in the last minutes.

Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

No one is throwing shade at the other Bundesliga sides, but Bayern Munich's prowess is unarguably rooted in standout performers across the board - a real team of influencers, you might say. But this season? They've got this niggle, this irritation - think of it as a meme that's outlived its fun. It's all tied to Lewandowski's exit.

You're on the money when you talk about Lewa's exit. Feels like someone's swiped right on the wrong profile, doesn't it? Still, Bayern's mojo doesn't revolve around just one user. We all saw Moting stepping up to the plate earlier this season. So, it's not time to hit the panic button just yet.

Next season's chances? They could be a glow-up waiting to happen, provided the transfer market plays nice. So, will they unearth another trendsetter, or are they left doomscrolling for a whole flock of followers? Future's a bit of a cliffhanger right now, isn't it?

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I think everything was clear after the first game and the players of Hamburg did not believe in a positive outcome - with such a mood (objectively justified when the result of the whole season has already been lost) it is difficult to win even with a minimum score (which will not give anything anyway). Plus, by the end of the season, Stuttgart got in good shape (by the way, they took away points from Dortmund by drawing with it - as it turns out, this was way important) and therefore they easily won the second game as well.

After getting points from Dortmund and improving the quality of their games in the last few weeks, I honestly did not give Hamburg a chance in the struggle to stay in the league. It was bad for Hamburg. They will have to try their luck next year for the Bundesliga. Stuttgart once again showed how important a team they are with this win.

I did not follow this event, so I cannot say how obvious the result was before the start of the games. Maybe you remember what quotes the bookmakers had? Hamburg didn't use their chance, but they have next season and can get a direct ticket to the Bundesliga if they play well all season. It's always a safer option than trying to be successful in two separate games where you might just get unlucky.

I already thought even when I saw the result of the first leg of the play off round between Stuttgart vs Humberg and sure enough it happened again in the second leg where Humberg had to accept defeat for the second time and made the aggregate 6-1, that was a bad result for them . conversely for Stuttgart they were able to complete their task very well and ensured they could survive in the Bundesliga even though they went through the Play off round.

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Quote from: bekti3 on June 07, 2023, 02:31:44 PM

Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

Bayern Munich strength this season is quite good, this was evident before the change of coach occurred where Bayern Munich was able to put great pressure on the Champions League and the Bundesliga. Now their performance was quite stunning at the start of the season and even Moting was one of the players who was able to make a big contribution to Bayern Munich. However, slowly or rather during the second half of the season, Bayern experienced a slight decline in their performance and a change of coach made them lose balance and things it became one of the factors that they need time under coach tuchel.

Apart from that, I think Bayern Munich is still the strongest team in the Bundesliga this season, we can guess that Bayern Munich will learn from their mistakes in the Champions League this season and this will soon be addressed by Bayern Munich management in the transfer window.

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I think everything was clear after the first game and the players of Hamburg did not believe in a positive outcome - with such a mood (objectively justified when the result of the whole season has already been lost) it is difficult to win even with a minimum score (which will not give anything anyway). Plus, by the end of the season, Stuttgart got in good shape (by the way, they took away points from Dortmund by drawing with it - as it turns out, this was way important) and therefore they easily won the second game as well.

After getting points from Dortmund and improving the quality of their games in the last few weeks, I honestly did not give Hamburg a chance in the struggle to stay in the league. It was bad for Hamburg. They will have to try their luck next year for the Bundesliga. Stuttgart once again showed how important a team they are with this win.

I did not follow this event, so I cannot say how obvious the result was before the start of the games. Maybe you remember what quotes the bookmakers had? Hamburg didn't use their chance, but they have next season and can get a direct ticket to the Bundesliga if they play well all season. It's always a safer option than trying to be successful in two separate games where you might just get unlucky.

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He got an 3 years contract from what i have readed in the news.
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Quote from: wmaurik on June 07, 2023, 08:37:35 AM

Werder Bremen is an ordinary team that doesn't have flashy achievements like other teams, so it will be very difficult for Werder Bremen to get enough capital to make themselves even better next season, because Werder Bremen still need to fight for that and also have to fight for a better position in the Bundesliga next season so that they become a calculation of the rivals in the Bundesliga next season.

If you looking to Werder Bremen the last years they have already made some improvements in playing and other things.
But to count them in calculation to maybe win the german title in the next season i would say that is unrealistic and will be not happend.

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I don't have Bayern Munich but I think they usually win the league because other teams are not investing well enough and other teams make huge mistakes otherwise Bayern Munich couldn't win this league at all in a normal situation because of having unstable results and unstable situation in their team.
Dortmund could have a much better performance and this way they would not lose this chance for this season in the last minutes.

Strength is also important in this case. Bayern have always been strong with the players they have because they are above the average players at other clubs both individually and as a team.
On the other hand, the real comparison is about finances so that they can continue to make updates in a better direction for their club than other clubs.
But this season, the sale of Lewa has more or less affected Bayern's condition, I think, but it is possible that they can be anticipated again next season if they don't hesitate to look for another potential star as their target.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 06, 2023, 06:29:26 AM

Dortmund wasted their championship opportunity too easy by not even being able to win against an aimless team on the last week of the season. This can't be acceptable even though they have still had a solid season. The ending shouldn't have been like this. I assume Dortmund have no reasonable explanation to this result either. It was like they already secured the title so they just didn't care about the match. The first half of it was exactly like that and that effort in the second half wasn't enough as a result.

Terzic surely had a good season anyway by staying in the title race until the end. But he also needs to learn his lesson from this kind of poor ending. Dortmund normally don't care about whether they become the champions but when they have another chance they should know how to make use of it.

This must be the biggest nonsense I have read today.
Dortmund doesn't care if they become champions, are you serious??
So what are they playing for if not for the championship?

In the last years Dortmund is basically the only contender Bayern has that has been kind of always there.

The only difference is that this year they had 1 hand on the trophy and just couldn't get it done. They basically lost it and handed it to Bayern.
But not wanting to become champions is just hilarious.

The other thing you said about the last game is nonsense as well, "they just didn't care about the match". Did you even see the game? You claim they played like they don't care, haha. 29:10 shots and 73% possession, and they didn't care. Roll Eyes

Maybe what @emrecemsam meant was, Dortmund didn't target to win a trophy. because as we know, Dortmund's mission is to finish in the top four of the Bundesliga and they still exist in the Champions League. the target is to create young talents who have the talent to become future stars. after that, they will get a big profit from the sale of one of their successful players stretcher to become a star.

In this season, Dortmund made a big profit just by releasing Jude Bellingham to Madrid. not to mention, there are several other players that other big clubs might be interested in, for example, Adeyemi whose performance is starting to improve towards the end of this season. it could also be Youssoufa Maukoko who was linked with several big clubs who were interested in him. So far, Dortmund is a successful club with their business style even without much support from sponsors and ticket sales.

Well, because in this season Dortmund had the opportunity to break Bayern Munich's domination, they are trying to make it happen. Unfortunately, luck was not on their side. as we all know, as a result Bayern Munich continues to dominate the Bundesliga for the umpteenth time.

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I don't have problem with Bayern Munich but I think they usually win the league because other teams are not investing well enough and other teams make huge mistakes otherwise Bayern Munich couldn't win this league at all in a normal situation because of having unstable results and unstable situation in their team.
Dortmund could have a much better performance and this way they would not lose this chance for this season in the last minutes.

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