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Quote from: Soonandwaite on January 04, 2023, 02:13:52 PM

Hertha BSC Berlin are on a shopping tour in january. yesterday they signed Florian Niederlechner from Augsburg and today Berlin signed Florian Reese from Holstein Kiel.
two summer transfers ...and that already in January.
but i think Hertha will sign two or three more players after this season.

Hertha Berlin's performance is not good this season. Their achievement is only 14 points in 15 matches. And their main weakness is their attack. And so if they want to stay safe from the relegation zone, they will definitely need to improve their attack. They need quite a few talented players. Hertha management is doing a lot to strengthen their squad. Hope they will be able to perform stably in the upcoming match.

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Quote from: nara1892 on January 04, 2023, 11:22:18 AM

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His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

I wonder, did they not think about what the future would look like? I totally agree in saying that Borussia Dortmund is a very good team to produce quality players. But will they always do this, which in my opinion is detrimental to their team solidity. Indeed, financially they get multiple profits from every player they manage to create and then sell. But they also have to maintain the balance within the team as best they can, so they can get titles to present to their fans. If they can change their strategy in doing business, then I really believe they will be able to become a team that is on the same level as Bayern Munich.

the only future they think about is just profits from player sales than fighting to conquer the bundesliga but I'm even starting to understand them, looking at the bundesliga, bayern is such a strong one that other teams are starting to wonder if it's really worth it just invest so much money to then not win the bundesliga or else they think of the scenario of investing a lot of money in buying high profile players and in the end when they win the bundesliga they see no profit, so they buy cheap players and sell them to have high profits, this being them the best option

take the case of Jude Bellingham. Dortmund was bought from Birmingham for €25 million in 2020. Today Dortmund is selling Bellingham for more than €100 million. these bundesliga teams are making a lot of money selling players, so they won't care about winning the bundesliga anymore

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 04, 2023, 03:59:51 AM

Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

Jude Bellingham is €110.00m so it is a massive sum for Dortmund but it is a loss of a great player for them, I haven't seen Karim Adeyemi on the list of rumors that Dortmund would want to sell probably he is still valuable for them to make him stay, but Jude Bellingham has a lot of offer an option for a club that he wants, and rumored clubs that want Jude Bellingham are Liverpool FC, Manchester United, Manchester City, and Real Madrid, this surely up to Bellingham and sometimes if the offer is right then Dortmund might gladly oblige,

I think no matter which player it is, if Dortmund could sell a player for a good price they will, that's their entire existence. Jude would be amazing if they could sell him for 110 million, that would be unrealistic amount for them and could buy so many more young players.

Only problem they have is that they already sold so many good young stars, what will happen after Jude leaves? Like would they still have a few young stars coming up, that would be playing amazingly at Dortmund ne be sold for 70+ million in the future? If they do not have some more coming up from youth setup, then they are going to just be a team that sold some players for a lot of money once, and never had any other success after that.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 04, 2023, 01:41:00 PM

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Given how the oil clubs have inflated the transfer fees of players (and their salaries) for all clubs that are not top clubs, this business model remains the only possible one. I am surprised that UEFA does not introduce a salary cap and other restrictive measures that would slow down the gap between the top clubs and the rest. Instead, they come up with an FFP that doesn't work. But what else can you expect from corrupt officials. I think that something serious will be discussed only after some major bankruptcy (for example, Barcelona).

The sad part is that other clubs are not taking advantage of this. If the oil clubs are making this a huge thing, and spending insane amount of money, just sell your players for high price and do not spend high amount of money for players. Like even though they are not an oil club, Real just spent 60-70 million on some 16 year old kid, does that even make sense to you?

I believe that teams that are not rich at all should take the money from oil clubs by selling them players for super high amount of money, and then use that money to build a young team and keep repeating that, when the time comes they will be all great because they made profit from oil clubs to begin with.

Real spend the money it earns, it's a profitable club. The fact that Real spends a lot of money on young players is a consequence of the fact that the oil clubs have inflated wages and transfer fees. If football officials were seriously interested in this issue, they would have long ago taken real measures to maintain the financial stability of all clubs, but they are not interested in this, since they are corrupted by oil money.

#real spends 16-17 million on 16 years old kids Lol@bitgolden. That's not a bad thing for a club to do. Now if u ask me, I will say it pays them today. Real Madrid has spent on young stars for long, other clubs keep selling their stars on a huge amount to them and today they are running out of players to compete in leagues, some are having poor performance due to overused players. Real Madrid hardly sell good players, most of the real good player leave on free transfer. Where and how they got their money shouldn't be a problem. Team's that are not rich should either loan money, sell their shares, or apply for grants from higher investors to build their team if they want to grow.

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Quote from: nara1892 on January 04, 2023, 11:22:18 AM

I wonder, did they not think about what the future would look like? I totally agree in saying that Borussia Dortmund is a very good team to produce quality players. But will they always do this, which in my opinion is detrimental to their team solidity. Indeed, financially they get multiple profits from every player they manage to create and then sell. But they also have to maintain the balance within the team as best they can, so they can get titles to present to their fans. If they can change their strategy in doing business, then I really believe they will be able to become a team that is on the same level as Bayern Munich.

They are faced with a number of conditions, although this can be seen as detrimental to solidarity and providing a large space for Bayern to continue to dominate the Bundesliga, what they are looking for is to make them big and profitable from season to season.
Even though we know that this condition will obviously not be liked by some parties, as long as they don't lose, why take risks by betting to become champions, which of course will be difficult for them.

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Hertha BSC Berlin are on a shopping tour in january. yesterday they signed Florian Niederlechner from Augsburg and today Berlin signed Florian Reese from Holstein Kiel.
two summer transfers ...and that already in January.
but i think Hertha will sign two or three more players after this season.

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Quote from: nara1892 on January 04, 2023, 11:22:18 AM

I wonder, did they not think about what the future would look like? I totally agree in saying that Borussia Dortmund is a very good team to produce quality players. But will they always do this, which in my opinion is detrimental to their team solidity. Indeed, financially they get multiple profits from every player they manage to create and then sell. But they also have to maintain the balance within the team as best they can, so they can get titles to present to their fans. If they can change their strategy in doing business, then I really believe they will be able to become a team that is on the same level as Bayern Munich.

Actually there are teams that see this important but still being a very successful team at the same time. Teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are caring about signing skilled young players a lot for example. They are successful teams at the same time. They can make two things happen at the same time. But it isn't the same for Dortmund of course.

They can at least give it a chance but they are just focusing on making money in selling players instead. This is disappointing for the fans as well surely because they know the potential of their team. It has been so many years since the last time they won the Bundesliga title.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 03, 2023, 02:20:23 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2023, 06:00:45 AM

Given how the oil clubs have inflated the transfer fees of players (and their salaries) for all clubs that are not top clubs, this business model remains the only possible one. I am surprised that UEFA does not introduce a salary cap and other restrictive measures that would slow down the gap between the top clubs and the rest. Instead, they come up with an FFP that doesn't work. But what else can you expect from corrupt officials. I think that something serious will be discussed only after some major bankruptcy (for example, Barcelona).

The sad part is that other clubs are not taking advantage of this. If the oil clubs are making this a huge thing, and spending insane amount of money, just sell your players for high price and do not spend high amount of money for players. Like even though they are not an oil club, Real just spent 60-70 million on some 16 year old kid, does that even make sense to you?

I believe that teams that are not rich at all should take the money from oil clubs by selling them players for super high amount of money, and then use that money to build a young team and keep repeating that, when the time comes they will be all great because they made profit from oil clubs to begin with.

Real spend the money it earns, it's a profitable club. The fact that Real spend a lot of money on young players is a consequence of the fact that the oil clubs have inflated wages and transfer fees. If football officials were seriously interested in this issue, they would have long ago taken real measures to maintain the financial stability of all clubs, but they are not interested in this, since they are corrupted by oil money.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 03, 2023, 06:41:28 PM

Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

I wonder, did they not think about what the future would look like? I totally agree in saying that Borussia Dortmund is a very good team to produce quality players. But will they always do this, which in my opinion is detrimental to their team solidity. Indeed, financially they get multiple profits from every player they manage to create and then sell. But they also have to maintain the balance within the team as best they can, so they can get titles to present to their fans. If they can change their strategy in doing business, then I really believe they will be able to become a team that is on the same level as Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: bct_ail on January 04, 2023, 08:53:33 AM

The first talks between FC Brentford and Kevin Schade from FC Freiburg took place in summer. Brentford wanted to pay 20 Million € at that time. But Freiburg had refused. Although he did not play much in the first half of the season, Brentford was still interested. Now it was announced that he would go on loan to Brentford until the end of this season. With the option of a permanent transfer. Freiburg would then get 25 million.

This is a good deal for Freiburg and I believe that it was well worth the money. Brentford also benefited from the deal and it was a good deal overall. At first, Kevin Schade didn't have too many matches on the schedule, since he didn't play many matches. So it is certainly a positive thing that he is being sent on loan, as this is a very unusual situation. It is also good for the other club that he is going to join because he will be able to play regularly for them. In addition, he will be able to fill up an important position in their team as well. As a result, I believe this is a win-win situation for both parties involved.

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His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

Borrussia Dortmund's style of business is different from Bayern Munich, where they are a club that has a large finances, besides that, Munich has fanatical fans, namely Die Bayern. therefore, Munich has financial sources from various parties. different from Dortmund which does not rely too much on sponsors and ticket sales.

They are more focused on scoring new stars, then they sell at very high prices. I'm sure Dortmund have prepared another young player to replace Jude Bellingham if he leaves in January or maybe in the next summer transfer window. but not for Moukoko, at least Dortmund will maintain it until this season ends because they still have tough matches in the Champions League and are targeting to finish in the top four of the Bundesliga.

So, don't expect much from Dortmund to be serious in competing to become champions at any level of competition. the most important thing for Dortmund's management, they still exist in the top four of the Bundesliga and continue to compete in the Champions League. and if in the end Bellingam and Moukoko leave, Dortmund will reap the benefits again this season.

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Quote from: bering on January 04, 2023, 02:52:54 AM

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Haller will definitely help the team to improve its ranking but this will require some time since he didn't play for several months. Not sure if he can start in the next round or not.

maybe a little dubious, because Haller has testicular cancer, which I think it's a crucial case for a player who is always actively running and in contact with other players. So, in my opinion, Dortmund should find another attacker to replace him if in the next match if in any case Haller has a problem or relapsed with his health. So far a new attacker Modeste is not performing yet, he just created 2 goals at the moment.

Sébastien Haller has fully recover from testicular cancer so finally he is back and yesterday he was following training session from Dortmund and this is good news because Dortmund are required all of players to compete in Bundesliga or champion league but i don't think he will be played immediately because after long break Haller have to restore his physical fitness again before return to play and probably he will make his debut in February if all according to the plan and about Dortmund forward lines currently Dortmund rely on Youssoufa Moukoko although he still young but so far he can performing well and Moukoko is Dortmund top scorer until week 15 but i am not sure Dortmund can hold this player or not because currently he is into big clubs radar

If he can recover 100% from his illness and he does not face too many problems doing that I think he will be able to perform well.

But I agree with @blue Snow that it is probably going to be a little problematic because you know, football is a physical game. He will have to be in contact with many players and also run all the time. I hope that does not cause any problems for him. Again if he is 100% sure to play and also hundred percent fit to play he should still be monitored carefully and closely. Moukoko will be sold if Dortmund gets a good enough offer.

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The first talks between FC Brentford and Kevin Schade from FC Freiburg took place in summer. Brentford wanted to pay 20 Million € at that time. But Freiburg had refused. Although he did not play much in the first half of the season, Brentford was still interested. Now it was announced that he would go on loan to Brentford until the end of this season. With the option of a permanent transfer. Freiburg would then get 25 million.

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 03, 2023, 08:07:28 PM

Quote from: snipie on January 03, 2023, 02:27:16 PM

Haller will definitely help the team to improve its ranking but this will require some time since he didn't play for several months. Not sure if he can start in the next round or not.

maybe a little dubious, because Haller has testicular cancer, which I think it's a crucial case for a player who is always actively running and in contact with other players. So, in my opinion, Dortmund should find another attacker to replace him if in the next match if in any case Haller has a problem or relapsed with his health. So far a new attacker Modeste is not performing yet, he just created 2 goals at the moment.

I agree with you, that health problems for a player will be a lot of consideration, by not saying that a player's performance will decrease due to an illness, but that makes players more vulnerable than normal players to health problems. . But they have to prepare with players who will help them perform better. For a team it becomes important to anticipate.

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Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

Jude Bellingham is €110.00m so it is a massive sum for Dortmund but it is a loss of a great player for them, I haven't seen Karim Adeyemi on the list of rumors that Dortmund would want to sell probably he is still valuable for them to make him stay, but Jude Bellingham has a lot of offer an option for a club that he wants, and rumored clubs that want Jude Bellingham are Liverpool FC, Manchester United, Manchester City, and Real Madrid, this surely up to Bellingham and sometimes if the offer is right then Dortmund might gladly oblige,

Quote from: TopT3ns on January 03, 2023, 06:41:28 PM

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

And a great thing about Dortmund is that they have managed to steal and train great players in their possession, I think that Dortmund management surely has an excellent eye for a great potential players and a great prospect but they haven't seen what may happen to Sebastien Haller but eventually I really wish he could recover fast because I want to see him make a play for the opening games for the Bundesliga but there is not yet any news regarding his condition but he is back in training now,

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Quote from: blue Snow on January 03, 2023, 08:07:28 PM

Quote from: snipie on January 03, 2023, 02:27:16 PM

Haller will definitely help the team to improve its ranking but this will require some time since he didn't play for several months. Not sure if he can start in the next round or not.

maybe a little dubious, because Haller has testicular cancer, which I think it's a crucial case for a player who is always actively running and in contact with other players. So, in my opinion, Dortmund should find another attacker to replace him if in the next match if in any case Haller has a problem or relapsed with his health. So far a new attacker Modeste is not performing yet, he just created 2 goals at the moment.

Sébastien Haller has fully recover from testicular cancer so finally he is back and yesterday he was following training session from Dortmund and this is good news because Dortmund are required all of players to compete in Bundesliga or champion league but i don't think he will be played immediately because after long break Haller have to restore his physical fitness again before return to play and probably he will make his debut in February if all according to the plan and about Dortmund forward lines currently Dortmund rely on Youssoufa Moukoko although he still young but so far he can performing well and Moukoko is Dortmund top scorer until week 15 but i am not sure Dortmund can hold this player or not because currently he is into big clubs radar

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 03, 2023, 06:41:28 PM

Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

What do you mean by not going to be a problem for Borussia Dortmund? Instead I see this is a fundamental problem for them because they always do something excessive. I don't have a problem when they sell their players to make a profit, but what is a problem is for their performances that don't seem to change for the better because they are willing to sell players who have good quality. The business within the club will always be there and it will not be possible to get rid of it because it is part of football. However, there should be a balance that they create between business and also the achievements that are achieved, if not for a higher stage, at least they can do it in the domestic league.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 03, 2023, 06:41:28 PM

Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

The new players will have needed the time to adapt with the current situation in the club. It takes the time and it can't be done instantly. I think that if the fact that dortmund may get bunch of money from selling the players but it was also rarely getting trophy caused by dortmund was a club that being made for the business purpose. I meant the league has been used by dortmund as a way to develop their players.
If you wanna compete to get the trophy and losing the main players must become a big problem for your club. It's caused by losing important players in the club will be affecting the performance from your team.

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Quote from: snipie on January 03, 2023, 02:27:16 PM

Haller will definitely help the team to improve its ranking but this will require some time since he didn't play for several months. Not sure if he can start in the next round or not.

maybe a little dubious, because Haller has testicular cancer, which I think it's a crucial case for a player who is always actively running and in contact with other players. So, in my opinion, Dortmund should find another attacker to replace him if in the next match if in any case Haller has a problem or relapsed with his health. So far a new attacker Modeste is not performing yet, he just created 2 goals at the moment.

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Quote from: X-ray on January 03, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

His comeback meant nothing for sure. Dortmund will be losing more players. Jude bellingham and moukoko will not continue its career in the dortmund. I thought that the position of dortmund will always be the same. Dortmund is much more focusing to selling the players rather than try to win the trophy. I think that dortmund didn't care so much about that as long as it can still develop the new players and dortmund will not be trying so hard to win the trophy.
That's why bayern was always dominating the league since a long time ago. Bayern have so many competitors that have business oriented

If Dortmund loses a lot of players, it will not be a problem because Dortmund's goal appears to be to score the best players and be bought by a big club. Dortmund may already realize that the player selling business is very profitable, so Dortmund is not too concerned about losing a lot of players because they managed to make a lot of money from the sale.

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