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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 08:04:15 AM

Any thoughts on the Eintracht Vs Bayern this Sunday?
Eintracht is doing surprisingly good this season with 4 wins and 1 loss (to Borussia Dortmund) which currently give them a 2nd place in the table, only 1 point behind Bayern. But that could be due to rather easy matches they played.
Does anyone think they are strong enough to have a chance of winning, or at least earning 1 point on Bayern, or do you expect Bayern's easy win?

Frankfurt did quite OK last season, finished 6th, but they were 16 points behind the 5th Borussia Dortmund, which shows there was a big gap between the top 5 and the rest of the league.

The odds are:
Frankfurt: x5.60
Draw: x5.00
Bayern: x1.46

This is a very interesting match to watch because this match will be an opportunity for both teams to occupy the first rank in the 6th week. Of course, Eintracht if they win will overtake Bayern Munich and vice versa, even Bayern Munich widens the points gap with their rivals, Bayer Leverkusen.

Last season when Bayern Munich played at Eintracht's home they lost 5-1, and Eintracht started the season very impressively they got four wins and one loss of course this is a good capital for the host to face Bayern Munich who have become strong under coach Kompany.
The betting exchange is indeed as you said Bayern Munich is indeed very favored in this match but considering Eintracht has performed well so far and has good capital because last season they beat Bayern Munich so I think this match will be fierce and tight. I will bet on the total goals because I predict both teams will score.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 02, 2024, 02:46:38 AM

Bayern Munich's performance is much better now but it is too early to say that they will win the Bundesliga title this season, the competition will be very fierce because several other Bundesliga teams also have good performances.

Yeah is truth that Bayern Munich have a wonderful performance this season unlike how their performances be last season, but this season there able to claim the top standing right from the beginning of the season and we all know that the Bundesliga always becomes tough competition every season; because their also a strong team that have better squad than Bayern Munich, so in this case we can’t give them the full hope that they can able to go with this performances without draw a single points.

Quote from: Xcode7 on October 02, 2024, 02:46:38 AM

For now I have no doubt that Bayern Munich can continue their positive trend in the Bundesliga or the Champion League, for the UCL match against Aston Villa it might not be difficult for Bayern Munich because overall Bayern Munich's strength is much stronger, especially since Bayern Munich is in high confidence after a series of good results that they got so that it is very likely that they can return to showing their best performance.

Honestly they cannot continue go with this trend because currently now their only ahead of the Frankfurt with just one point which possibly in their next match they might come down to the second position, and even the Leverkusen that where seeing their performances unserious; we should just give them a little time they might come up with unexpected.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 02, 2024, 10:45:30 AM

The match will be a very crucial match for both teams, Bayern Munich makes the match as one of the efforts to maintain their position and widen their distance from the pursuit of Frankfurt, as well as Frankfurt who certainly has ambitions to be able to seize Munich current position although it is difficult to do, but we also cannot avoid surprises that may occur in the match (such as Leverkusen being defeated by Leipzig) so that maybe Frankfurt can also get points from Munich, but apart from all that, I think the match will be quite exciting and both teams that have big ambitions will of course exert all their abilities to win the match, looking at the ability and also the consistency that Frankfurt and Munich have at the moment then maybe we will see one of the teams will win with a very narrow score in the match.

I don't think Bayern is concerned about Eintracht overtaking them. The Frankfurt team is doing very well, but we're only 5 rounds into the season and we all know that Frankfurt will not be a top contender for winning the league. For them, finishing in the top 4 would be a great success.
Bayern's top rivals this season remain Leverkusen and Dortmund (and maaaybe Leipzig as a dark horse), both of which have a relatively easy games (at least on paper) so it's important for Bayern to win to keep the 3 points advantage over those two.

Although maybe referring to Union Berlin as an easy opponent for Dortmund is not quite fair. Union is an average team and Dortmund is not famous for their consistency, so a surprise in Berlin is not impossible.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 08:04:15 AM

Any thoughts on the Eintracht Vs Bayern this Sunday?
Eintracht is doing surprisingly good this season with 4 wins and 1 loss (to Borussia Dortmund) which currently give them a 2nd place in the table, only 1 point behind Bayern. But that could be due to rather easy matches they played.
Does anyone think they are strong enough to have a chance of winning, or at least earning 1 point on Bayern, or do you expect Bayern's easy win?

Frankfurt did quite OK last season, finished 6th, but they were 16 points behind the 5th Borussia Dortmund, which shows there was a big gap between the top 5 and the rest of the league.

The odds are:
Frankfurt: x5.60
Draw: x5.00
Bayern: x1.46

The match will be a very crucial match for both teams, Bayern Munich makes the match as one of the efforts to maintain their position and widen their distance from the pursuit of Frankfurt, as well as Frankfurt who certainly has ambitions to be able to seize Munich current position although it is difficult to do, but we also cannot avoid surprises that may occur in the match (such as Leverkusen being defeated by Leipzig) so that maybe Frankfurt can also get points from Munich, but apart from all that, I think the match will be quite exciting and both teams that have big ambitions will of course exert all their abilities to win the match, looking at the ability and also the consistency that Frankfurt and Munich have at the moment then maybe we will see one of the teams will win with a very narrow score in the match.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:14:12 AM

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Bayern Munich's performance in the Champions League with Kompany will determine everything. Bayern Munich may be the biggest candidate for the cup in their own league but they also need to show themselves in the Champions League.

I think with good progress he will not be the same as Tuchel. Realistic and gradual targets seem to be pretty good. One Budesliga champion has made me happy, if they win the UCL it is a bonus. But with the current condition I see, they must continue to improve themselves to be able to win the UCL. If I look at the type of way he coaches, he is indeed a good young coach. He gave instructions for thinking smart. He will be Xabi's competitor.

Although currently Vincent Kompany's performance with Bayern Munich is quite promising, they must continue to improve their performance all the time. They can't just be running in place, especially in a very tight competition, the Champions League. In the meantime, he has answered the doubts of many people who were directed at him at the beginning of the season, yes he was able to play well at the beginning of the league, that is a very big capital. However, in a competition like the Champions League, playing well is not enough, they must be able to be better than other teams, both in terms of play and mentality. Next they will face Aston Villa, they must ensure they can bring home full points from this match.

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Quote from: len01 on October 02, 2024, 08:01:01 AM

For any team to be able to win a competition requires encouragement from several important roles such as experience and player quality. Bayern Munich currently has much better experience and player quality than Aston Villa. Although Aston Villa is playing at home, it does not mean they can beat Munich but only have a chance to hold a draw with high mental strength. And no matter how many Aston Villa supporters there are in today's match, the Munich players' mentality is very ready to face the match and achieve positive results this season. So in the UCL match later we have to be more careful before placing a bet. Because in any case Aston Villa is able to provide resistance and cannot be underestimated.

That is why a team that has good quality players and very large experiences of opportunities to get the title because they have quality above average. But sometimes something unexpected also occurs in football as achieved by Leverkusen in the previous season, relying on the quality of makeshift players they managed to break the dominance of Bayern Munich. For competition in the Bundesliga I am sure Bayern Munich will again dominate this season because they have quality with all their experiences.

But when it comes to Champions League there are many things that might need to be analyzed, facing Aston Villa is not an easy match because they also look so consistent so far in England. Bayern Munich must be careful when traveling to Aston Villa's headquarters because if you don't play consistently, it is not impossible that Aston Villa will defeat them.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 02, 2024, 02:46:38 AM

Bayern Munich's performance is much better now but it is too early to say that they will win the Bundesliga title this season, the competition will be very fierce because several other Bundesliga teams also have good performances.

For now I have no doubt that Bayern Munich can continue their positive trend in the Bundesliga or the Champion League, for the UCL match against Aston Villa it might not be difficult for Bayern Munich because overall Bayern Munich's strength is much stronger, especially since Bayern Munich is in high confidence after a series of good results that they got so that it is very likely that they can return to showing their best performance.

The main reason for this is that Bayern Munich are performing well and are strong, but it is difficult to win the league title. Because Barcelona and Leverkusen and other teams like them are tough and fast. Whom even Bayern Munich can beat. But most hopes are pinned on Bayern Munich. How great it would be if they win the match and win the title. Bayern Munich also sees that if we remain weak and do not play well, we will not get the league title. That's why they will play the match with hard work and full effort and if they don't win then there will be pressure on them and the strength of the opposing team. But as far as looks, either Bayern Munich will win the match or it will be a draw. I am eagerly watch and wait for them.If anyone is going to beat Bayern Munich, it will be the Barcelona team otherwise Bayern Munich will have an easy way out.

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Any thoughts on the Eintracht Vs Bayern this Sunday?
Eintracht is doing surprisingly good this season with 4 wins and 1 loss (to Borussia Dortmund) which currently give them a 2nd place in the table, only 1 point behind Bayern. But that could be due to rather easy matches they played.
Does anyone think they are strong enough to have a chance of winning, or at least earning 1 point on Bayern, or do you expect Bayern's easy win?

Frankfurt did quite OK last season, finished 6th, but they were 16 points behind the 5th Borussia Dortmund, which shows there was a big gap between the top 5 and the rest of the league.

The odds are:
Frankfurt: x5.60
Draw: x5.00
Bayern: x1.46

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Quote from: Farma on October 02, 2024, 05:10:05 AM

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The away game may be a challenge for Bayern Munich. Because they have a lot of fans in England who support Aston Villa. Bayern Munich will not lose any game they play in Germany. Because their crowd support is incredible. They have also built a very high-quality squad this year. With a few touches and the biggest change in the coaching staff, many positive things have happened to the team. The strong teams of the Bundesliga are progressing very well in the Champions League this year. Another important victory was Borussia Dortmund's 7-1 victory.

Bayern Munich are in their best form right now so they are still favored to win the match against Aston Villa in the Champion League match and I think the away match will not have much effect on the Bayern Munich team, especially Kompany has coached a Premier League team so he understands the atmosphere in the Premier League.
On the other hand, the Aston Villa team at the beginning of this season has not found its best performance, they are not that good in the Premier League so I am sure Bayern Munich will be able to continue their positive trend to win the match later.
Bayern Munich are now very strong, from what they have achieved so far, the team's confidence has increased and Kompany has been quite successful in making changes in the Bayern Munich team.

For any team to be able to win a competition requires encouragement from several important roles such as experience and player quality. Bayern Munich currently has much better experience and player quality than Aston Villa. Although Aston Villa is playing at home, it does not mean they can beat Munich but only have a chance to hold a draw with high mental strength. And no matter how many Aston Villa supporters there are in today's match, the Munich players' mentality is very ready to face the match and achieve positive results this season. So in the UCL match later we have to be more careful before placing a bet. Because in any case Aston Villa is able to provide resistance and cannot be underestimated.

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Quote from: Hvdv on October 02, 2024, 02:47:17 AM

The away game may be a challenge for Bayern Munich. Because they have a lot of fans in England who support Aston Villa. Bayern Munich will not lose any game they play in Germany. Because their crowd support is incredible. They have also built a very high-quality squad this year. With a few touches and the biggest change in the coaching staff, many positive things have happened to the team. The strong teams of the Bundesliga are progressing very well in the Champions League this year. Another important victory was Borussia Dortmund's 7-1 victory.

Bayern Munich are in their best form right now so they are still favored to win the match against Aston Villa in the Champion League match and I think the away match will not have much effect on the Bayern Munich team, especially Kompany has coached a Premier League team so he understands the atmosphere in the Premier League.
On the other hand, the Aston Villa team at the beginning of this season has not found its best performance, they are not that good in the Premier League so I am sure Bayern Munich will be able to continue their positive trend to win the match later.
Bayern Munich are now very strong, from what they have achieved so far, the team's confidence has increased and Kompany has been quite successful in making changes in the Bayern Munich team.

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The interesting show continues, and it's between Kompany and Alonso. Between Muchen and Leverkusen. Weekend meeting ended in draw and now I am watching out for their individual performance in the champions league.
Both has competition fixtures. While Bayern Munich is facing somewhat a lesser England side, Aston Villa. Leverkusen is facing a giant from Italy. Let's see how this happens this midweek and any outcome will be adding to their stats.

The show of tactics as long as they are not when they face each other on the field are not interesting for me to judge who is the best especially their opponents biased if measured by the strength they have.
If you have to judge from the Champions League match they face each soon, then the result that will be obtained by Bayern is a draw and Bayer Leverkusen wins, then Alonso is better because his opponent is AC Milan.
Not judging Aston Villa team weak, but the material of Bayern players deserves victory.

The away game may be a challenge for Bayern Munich. Because they have a lot of fans in England who support Aston Villa. Bayern Munich will not lose any game they play in Germany. Because their crowd support is incredible. They have also built a very high-quality squad this year. With a few touches and the biggest change in the coaching staff, many positive things have happened to the team. The strong teams of the Bundesliga are progressing very well in the Champions League this year. Another important victory was Borussia Dortmund's 7-1 victory.

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Bayern Munich's performance in the Champions League with Kompany will determine everything. Bayern Munich may be the biggest candidate for the cup in their own league but they also need to show themselves in the Champions League.

I think with good progress he will not be the same as Tuchel. Realistic and gradual targets seem to be pretty good. One Budesliga champion has made me happy, if they win the UCL it is a bonus. But with the current condition I see, they must continue to improve themselves to be able to win the UCL. If I look at the type of way he coaches, he is indeed a good young coach. He gave instructions for thinking smart. He will be Xabi's competitor.

Bayern Munich is really doing very well right now. Their manager Kompany is literally playing the team in a way that will respond to the criticisms made at the beginning of the season. One of their biggest tests will be against Aston Villa in England today. Aston Villa is having a very successful season in the Premier League. Similarly, Bayern Munich is doing very well in Germany. They also defeated Dinamo Zagreb in the first match of the Champions League. This will be one of the matches I am most curious about tonight.

Bayern Munich's performance is much better now but it is too early to say that they will win the Bundesliga title this season, the competition will be very fierce because several other Bundesliga teams also have good performances.

For now I have no doubt that Bayern Munich can continue their positive trend in the Bundesliga or the Champion League, for the UCL match against Aston Villa it might not be difficult for Bayern Munich because overall Bayern Munich's strength is much stronger, especially since Bayern Munich is in high confidence after a series of good results that they got so that it is very likely that they can return to showing their best performance.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:14:12 AM

Quote from: eightdots on October 01, 2024, 01:26:35 PM

Bayern Munich's performance in the Champions League with Kompany will determine everything. Bayern Munich may be the biggest candidate for the cup in their own league but they also need to show themselves in the Champions League.

I think with good progress he will not be the same as Tuchel. Realistic and gradual targets seem to be pretty good. One Budesliga champion has made me happy, if they win the UCL it is a bonus. But with the current condition I see, they must continue to improve themselves to be able to win the UCL. If I look at the type of way he coaches, he is indeed a good young coach. He gave instructions for thinking smart. He will be Xabi's competitor.

Since the beginning of season Bayern Munich has set high target for Vincent Kompany that they want Kompany can bringing Bayern Munich to broke the domination of Leverkusen and gets Bundesliga trophy so this is actually their main target but for Champion league as far as i know Bayern Munich owner was never targetting the trophy from this competition because they know gets champion league trophy is very hard

I know Bayern Munich has starting this season with fantastic result because they can win with big scores from Dynamo Zagreb but it won't makes them automatically became an strong candidate for the champion because it's too early to says that but for Bundesliga i am sure Bayern Munich could being an strong contender for the title and the question is whether they can maintain their consistency until the end of the season or not but if Bayern Munich consistent then i am sure they can be the winner of this season

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:14:12 AM

Quote from: eightdots on October 01, 2024, 01:26:35 PM

Bayern Munich's performance in the Champions League with Kompany will determine everything. Bayern Munich may be the biggest candidate for the cup in their own league but they also need to show themselves in the Champions League.

I think with good progress he will not be the same as Tuchel. Realistic and gradual targets seem to be pretty good. One Budesliga champion has made me happy, if they win the UCL it is a bonus. But with the current condition I see, they must continue to improve themselves to be able to win the UCL. If I look at the type of way he coaches, he is indeed a good young coach. He gave instructions for thinking smart. He will be Xabi's competitor.

Bayern Munich is really doing very well right now. Their manager Kompany is literally playing the team in a way that will respond to the criticisms made at the beginning of the season. One of their biggest tests will be against Aston Villa in England today. Aston Villa is having a very successful season in the Premier League. Similarly, Bayern Munich is doing very well in Germany. They also defeated Dinamo Zagreb in the first match of the Champions League. This will be one of the matches I am most curious about tonight.

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Quote from: eightdots on October 01, 2024, 01:26:35 PM

Bayern Munich's performance in the Champions League with Kompany will determine everything. Bayern Munich may be the biggest candidate for the cup in their own league but they also need to show themselves in the Champions League.

I think with good progress he will not be the same as Tuchel. Realistic and gradual targets seem to be pretty good. One Budesliga champion has made me happy, if they win the UCL it is a bonus. But with the current condition I see, they must continue to improve themselves to be able to win the UCL. If I look at the type of way he coaches, he is indeed a good young coach. He gave instructions for thinking smart. He will be Xabi's competitor.

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Although Kompany was able to ensure that Bayern dominated this match, Bayer was able to hold on to a draw and this is good for the competitiveness of the Bundesliga, where the teams at the top of the table continue to move quite close. This may change later, but for now Bayern does not have a big advantage over other teams and this draw shows that Alonso was able to preserve the Bayer we saw last season, but this time Bayern will definitely not give them the title just like that.

Since the beginning of Kompany's selection as Coach, many doubted him, but slowly he began to prove that he would be successful with the right team, and this was slowly proven at Bayern Munich. The philosophy he built was not digested by Burnley in the Premier League, but at Bayern Munich with good material he succeeded. Under Kompany's guidance, Bayern Munich changed a lot.

The beginning of his arrival, right as we said that many people doubted the company. Kompany is considered not yet worth dealing with a big one because he is still very young experience in handling a team as big as Bayern Munich. Naturally and not wrong for most people in judging it because the team he handled last before Bayern had to be degraded.
Not a matter of philosophy, but the difference between the two clubs can be seen directly, namely in the depth of the squad they have. If when handling Burnley he gets a player like a player in Bayern, it is likely that Kompany can give the best to Burnley.

Of course, we need to consider the difference between the two teams. He has much more opportunities at Bayern Munich. I think the management, who thought that he had very good technical knowledge, trusted him and brought him to the team. As far as we can see, they are not wrong because Bayern Munich has been playing a much different and higher quality game compared to last year. It seems like it will continue like this. They are successful in the Champions League matches. They should win a cup at the end of the season so that there is no doubt.

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Dortmund's second victory in the Champions League this time Dortmund won by scoring 7 goals and Celtic themselves were only able to reply with 1 goal. This is an extraordinary result for Dortmund this season and currently they are still at the top of the standings with the most goals scored among other clubs but fortunately Dortmund has not met the real challenge because a tougher club is waiting for them in front of them, namely against Real Madrid and Barcelona. I think Dortmund will face great difficulties facing these clubs. He has to prepare for the 3rd match against the Spanish giants Real Madrid.

The victory was actually a statement of intent by borussia dortmund because it's not that easy to beat a team as good as Celtic with this kind of scoreline, though I was actually surprised when I saw five nil in the first half, I was actually expecting a tight contested affair even though I expected borussia dortmund to came out on top, but for them to be able to defeat Celtic easily, it shows that they have actually evolves and even more better this season.

Then as for upcoming tie with really madrid, though real madrid are the favourite on paper but that doesn't change the fact that borussia dortmund has the capacity to inflict a painful defeat on them if they are not on the top of their game, but if I were to make a bet on that game, I would be going with the option of draw or GG, because am quite certain that games like this are very likely to end in a draw or both teams to score.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 01, 2024, 11:42:53 PM

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Dortmund's second victory in the Champions League this time Dortmund won by scoring 7 goals and Celtic themselves were only able to reply with 1 goal. This is an extraordinary result for Dortmund this season and currently they are still at the top of the standings with the most goals scored among other clubs but fortunately Dortmund has not met the real challenge because a tougher club is waiting for them in front of them, namely against Real Madrid and Barcelona. I think Dortmund will face great difficulties facing these clubs. He has to prepare for the 3rd match against the Spanish giants Real Madrid.

In the two matches that have been played, including this match, Dortmund was able to maximize it by pocketing full points. Of course, this is a good start for them in the UCL competition because in the 3rd and 6th matches, Nuri Sahin's squad must face the Spanish giants. As you have said, this will be difficult and it is not impossible that they will lose, but still the chances they have to enter the next phase are very big considering that only Barcelona and Real Madrid are tough opponents, the rest of Dortmund's opponents are only Sturm, Dinamo Zagreb, Bologna and Shakhtar, expecting 3 points in these 4 matches is very realistic for Dortmund.

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The condition of Bayern and Frankfurt is quite interesting for this match where both clubs are in quite good condition in terms of performance and they are even in the order of competition in the race for first place.
Their point difference is only 1 point now and indeed this is a very good condition to see how this match will happen.

Frankfurt statistically and player strength is still below Bayern for now but playing at home could make a difference in this match. I think this will be a match with quite good tension, it's just that when talking about victory, most likely it will be Bayern who get 3 points even with a narrow win later.

Interesting indeed, because their position in the standings is only one point different that will make the match predicted to be interesting. With a point gap of only one point, it is very likely that Eintracht Frankfurt will maximize its defense because after all, Bayer Leverkusen also played defensively against Bayern Munich. Therefore, although Eintracht Frankfurt will play at home but that does not mean Eintracht Frankfurt will play attacking because if Eintracht Frankfurt plays more attacking, then Bayern Munich will have a great chance to make many goals.

Because after all, although in the two home matches of Eintracht Frankfurt so far the result is a victory, but Bayern Munich's record so far is also better. Because after all, of Bayern Munich's three away matches so far, the fact is that Bayern Munich also always managed to get three points. Thus, Eintracht Frankfurt still have to play well and be disciplined not to make too many freekicks, because a draw will be a good result for Eintracht Frankfurt to consistently get points, but for Bayern Munich, of course, they have to get three points if they want to make a wider point gap with the competing teams below.

What makes this interesting is Kompany who is always in the spotlight because no matter what, Kompany is still being watched in terms of his performance so that when there is a match that is considered serious because the opposing team's condition can be considered comparable or almost the same in terms of performance, then there is definitely a hope to be the difference in the final score.

It is undeniable that for now Bayern's dominance will certainly be very difficult to manage, especially with their winning results in several competitions that have been carried out, of course this makes Bayern look very superior. Hopefully Frankfurt can show their quality and can withstand Bayern's dominance even though their chances of securing points are smaller than Bayern at this time, but the opportunity is certainly still open.

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Dortmund's second victory in the Champions League this time Dortmund won by scoring 7 goals and Celtic themselves were only able to reply with 1 goal. This is an extraordinary result for Dortmund this season and currently they are still at the top of the standings with the most goals scored among other clubs but fortunately Dortmund has not met the real challenge because a tougher club is waiting for them in front of them, namely against Real Madrid and Barcelona. I think Dortmund will face great difficulties facing these clubs. He has to prepare for the 3rd match against the Spanish giants Real Madrid.

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