Topic: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 183. (Read 651503 times)

Bayern Munich, Heidenheim and RB Leipzig are the three German Bundesliga clubs that managed to win all first two games of the season and if you ask me, I think it's a sign that Vincent Kompany's team are geared up to make up for the club's poor outing of last season. Defending champions of the league Bayer Leverkusen did lose over the weekend which was their first loss in 35 games and are now three points behind Bayern Munich so do you think they can still catch up with Bayern Munich? Or do you think Bayern Munich's impress start to the season won't last for a long time?

Heidenheim performance in this match can be seen very well as his players have perform brilliantly and well, score 4 goals and not allowing a single goal to the opposition team.  This proves that this team is very strong and has good perform and speed.  And I was very impress with their match and I didn't predict this match.  But the way they were play it was clear that this match would be won.  If they perform like this in every match, every team will lose the match.  Because these teams play faster than their perform.  Congratulations to him for this win.  And on the other hand, their players have also work hard but not in such a way that they can win matches against them.  If they had won these matches, their glory would have been greater and higher than them.  But if it was due to luck and hard work they have also got victory and success.

Even if Bayer Leverkusen doesn't win the championship this year, I don't think their fans will be angry with them. Because they played so well last year and finished the season that the fans are in love with the team right now. I think they will finish the season as second even if they don't win the championship. However, the season has just started and they still have a chance to win the championship. Yes, they lost a game, but that's not the end of anything.

In the past we have seen how big teams such as Arsenal, Munich and Juventus which contain great players were able to create a  unbeaten record in their golden era, but what Leverkusen did last season is actually impossible for other teams to do today, Leverkusen managed mantain their unbeaten record with only makeshift players without any star players in their squad and it is clear It is an extraordinary achievement from a team that is considered a mid-table team in the Bundesliga, the achievement achieved by Leverkusen is nothing but the result of hard work and also the unyielding attitude that Alonso has continued to emphasize to his players so far, besides that the poor performance of Bayern Munich and Dortmund in the league is also undeniably the reason why they easily maintained the record last season, So I think there is a luck factor, but it is not the main factor that made Leverkusen able to be an unbeaten team last season as you said.

Bayern Leverkusen knew very well that at one point or the other that they were going to taste defeat in the league. For me I think it was very important that the defeat came very early, so that they will have enough time to organize themselves and shape their season. Yeah it's important that the burden of unbeaten has left them, so that they won't keep facing the media about the possibility of playing another unbeaten this season. Because every win that they would have recorded would have kept making people think that they are targeting another unbeaten run. Although I must say the truth, I never saw the Bayern Leverkusen loss coming, especially when they were leading by 2 goals and the time was almost running out. Bayern Leverkusen were the ones that always kept their winning very late last season, but this time around they drank from same cup to feel how painful it usually is, when you lose a match you thought you already got 3 points.

Luck is a slight factor that affects a teams success in situations as this actually it's not key but if need be, the key factor is mainly the teams abilities and strength especially when expectations and pressures on them are minimal, but if the reverse is the case, then the team may not be able to maintain such records and Bayer Leverkusen is a typical example as seen, they literally had almost no pressure also season, so very likely this occurs once in awhile and not often and it's difficult for a team to maintain it for more than once in a row, I have not seen that really happen in a long time.

Heidenheim's performance was impressive but for me it was very reasonable because the club that was opposed was only a club that had a performance under Heidenheim.
Like St. Pauli and Augsburg are only clubs that are easy to defeat but I still give praise to Heidenheim for success without conceding in these 2 matches.
I was actually quite surprised to see Heidenheim's appearance beating Augsburg with a large score while I previously thought that this match would end in a thin victory or draw.
After this, the big challenges will be experienced by Heidenheim who have to fight top clubs such as Dortmund and Heidenheim will compete away in the upcoming matches.
Do you think Heidenheim is able to appear consistent when fighting Dortmund?

I think Bayern Munich won a very important 3 points by beating Freiburg. Because Bayer Leverkusen lost this week and lost 3 points. Leipzig, who hit them with counter attacks, gave Bayern Munich 3 points as a gift. If Bayern wins the match they will play against Leverkusen, Leverkusen's chances will be very weak this year. It was a very good start for Kompany this year. I hope they continue like this

It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

To be fair they did lose a game to Atalanta quite recently, so it is not their most recent loss, it's just Bundesliga one, which is of course still insane. They went a whole season without a single loss, that is amazing whenever it happens, in any league that happens.

Even Bayern when they dominated didn't do it if I remember right, PSG doesn't, City doesn't, to be fair nobody goes 50+ unbeaten games in a row, that just doesn't happen and they did it. In this season I didn't expected them to do the same, it would have been quite difficult and because of that I did expected them to have this issue, and that still doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing anything, they can still win the title even wit ha few losses here and there.

I do not think Thomas Tuchel is only one to blame for Bayern Munich poor start. It is too early to judge team after just two games. People were worried about Bayern new approach with Kompany because they were not sure if it would work not because they thought they would lose first two games. Tuchel tactics have been questioned but it is not fair to give up on him so quickly. Team has been struggling with possession and scoring for two years so it is too soon to say if Kompany is right person for job. Just because Bayern is dominating games does not mean they will be successful. I think it is too early to make judgments about how well they will do this season.

And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated".

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better

I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.

I think there are many people who lost their money while betting on Leverkusen against Leipzig. In fact, we know Leipzig is a strong team and they are not weak at all but still, Leipzig was not strong enough to stand against a team like Leverkusen, and winning this match was not something even the fans of Leipzig could ever expect to see.
Leverkusen was a team that usually had amazing comebacks and they could change the game but still, time Leipzig had better come back, and while they were about to lose it with a 2-0 result they won the game with a 3-2 result.

It must be admitted that it is very difficult to defend the trophy in an unbeaten manner, as they did last season when they won it for the first time. True, Leverkusen played very well in the first half, they dominated the game, but in the end Leipzig proved that they are capable of creating a surprise. In my opinion, Leverkusen played too aggressively when they were already 2-0 up, Xabi Alonso should have changed his game to be more defensive, so that he could anticipate counterattacks better. In addition, luck could not prevent Leverkuesen from losing, Leipzig is now a team to be reckoned with.

Xabi Alonso task this season is actually very difficult, because he bears very high expectations, after his success last season. The defeat to Leipzig can lower the fans expectations a little, and also make the players more relaxed without much pressure, I think the defeat has a positive side too. Meanwhile, Xabi Alonso will certainly encourage his players to forget the defeat, and focus on getting up in the next match. With the mentality that has been formed, it seems that Leverkusen will find it easy to get up and start a positive trend again. Now Leverkusen is 3 points behind Bayern Munich and Heidenheim, but there is still plenty of time to overtake them in the future.

For the Bundesliga, yes. Finally, the unbeaten record by Leverkusen was broken. Leipzig, fortunately this is also one of the top Bundesliga clubs, so it's not so embarrassing. Now, their focus is to defend the Bundesliga title.

But, can they?

For now, Leverkusen is in 8th position. It's still very early. However, their main competitor, Bayern Munich, is actually getting better and more consistent in their game.

On the other hand, Heidenheim is currently quite popular, topping the standings, never conceding a goal, and scoring the most goals.



Next week, they will face a top club, Dortmund, can they beat Dortmund? If so, then Heidenheim is truly the next promoting club that attracts attention this season.
It will be quite a tough match.
H2h:

0 win, 2 draws, 0 loss

Source: Heidenheim vs Dortmund

I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

I agree with you that many fans have really underestimated this Bayern Munich this season just because they are managed by Kompany who man think his limited knowledge and experience will hinder the club’s progress, many still want him out as they believe he is not the right choice, but my emphasis has always been that he fits perfectly for the club to me due to how his style. At his former clubs he couldn’t implement his pattern of play because of the players there but at Bayern Munich he has the quality of players to play that styles.
I wasn’t surprised with the win today because i had predicted that Bayern Munich will definitely try to take advantage of the the points dropped by their rivals or title contenders, so it was a much needed and also well deserved win.

As for Stuttgart, I had predicted them running into difficulties this season due to their sales of players and them not being able to replace most of them. Now they will add the Champions league football to their games which is definitely going to affect them if they remain in this current form.
Heidenheim on the other hand since last season have shown similar characteristics like when Leipzig was promoted first to the champions league, last season many expected their drop back to the lower division but they stayed and even went ahead to get a spot at this season’s European competitions. They picked up right where they left off and I think they will grow more and would be a huge threat to just any club this season