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Quote from: cygan on October 21, 2021, 04:06:27 AM

Julian Nagelsmann has now tested positive for covid-19 and will not be able to train bayern for the next 1-2 weeks and coach the team in the league games...
the coach was already absent from yesterday's cl match against benfica and will fly back to munich separately from the team
https://www.kicker.de/nagelsmann-positiv-auf-corona-getestet-875701/artikel

I just saw that news too and it's pretty hard to not notice it as everyone is reporting it, but i would say that is only big news for the press regarding the overall covid situation which is seeing increasing numbers in germany again.
From a football point of view i would say that this will not have a big impact if any impact at all. Bayern has the best players of the Bundesliga and they are also very experienced. I am pretty sure that nagelsmann will do the tactical planning from home and just send it to his assistants.

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Quote from: bct_ail on October 21, 2021, 02:11:38 AM

So far, no team from the 2nd division has ever started so badly.... It's strange that they haven't taken the spirit from the last season with them. They were no worse than 5th place there since matchday 6, but the departure of 4 regular players was probably too much.

The most likely thing that caused them (Greuther Furth) to be like this I think is because of their first match Cheesy

After facing Leipzig in the next match, they will also meet Freiburg, who is currently in fourth place in the standings. The chances of Greuther Furth winning will be in the match against Frankfurt, they need to be able to give their maximum before they will lose again against Gladbach.

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Julian Nagelsmann has now tested positive for covid-19 and will not be able to train bayern for the next 1-2 weeks and coach the team in the league games...
the coach was already absent from yesterday's cl match against benfica and will fly back to munich separately from the team
https://www.kicker.de/nagelsmann-positiv-auf-corona-getestet-875701/artikel

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 20, 2021, 07:33:57 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on October 20, 2021, 03:43:58 AM

Even though there is only one point difference between Bayern and Dortmund at the moment, I doubt Dortmund can end Bayern's dominance
in the Bundesliga. Because there are still 26 games to go, I am pessimistic that Dortmund can play consistently, Dortmund will likely lose
a lot of points. Unlike Bayern, which already has a winning mentality, I believe this season Bayern will again win the Bundesliga trophy.
I agree that the mistake that Dortmund often makes is to always let go of their star players, especially several times selling star players to Bayern,
it must be stopped immediately if Dortmund really wants to end Bayern's dominance. I really want other team to win the Bundesliga, so that
the Bundesliga competition is more exciting if the winner is difficult to predict. I also hoped that Leverkusen could compete with Bayern
and Dortmund for the Bundesliga trophy, but after Leverkusen was beaten 1-5 by Bayern, I must admit that Leverkusen's level is still far below Bayern.

I surely think the same, Bayern now is playing a different level of soccer, while other teams are left behind, I think that even without Robert Lewandowski Bayern can perform very well, but with Lewandowski on the team Bayern can be unbeatable, but that one thing against Frankfurt had exposed Bayern that, this team can still make mistakes, and that one match against them have gotten Bayern a losing score, I just wish Robert Lewandowski would not have any problem with injuries, because if it did, this could open an opportunity for other teams to take a step, and in my opinion, Dortmund is the only team that can take Bayern Toe to toe and has a chance in making another dent in Bayerns Standings.

And December 4 might be the day for this team to clash, and this will be the most awaited match for a lot of fans if Dortmund can able a win against Bayern.

Lewandowski is indeed a very big contribution to Bayern, almost every game Lewandowski has scored a goal. But what's interesting is that
Bayern managed to dominate the Bundesliga not just relying on one player. There are still several players who make Bayern a very difficult
team to beat, including Muller, Gnabry, Goretzka and Neuer. Those are some of the players who in my opinion contributed greatly to making
Bayern a very strong team. I totally agree that without Lewandowski Bayern played very well, maybe without Lewandowski there weren't
many goals for Bayern.

Of all the existing teams, it is only Dortmund who might be able to make things difficult for Bayern, even though last season there was Leipzig
who played quite well, but this season Leipzig is a different team. Indeed, the big match on December 4 is eagerly awaited by Bundesliga fans,
this could be one of the parameters of whether Dortmund can compete with Bayern or not. I really hope Dortmund can beat Bayern,
so the Bundesliga runs more interestingly, although my prediction not change that will win the Bundesliga trophy this season is still Bayern.

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Greuther Fuerth have only managed 1 point after 8 matchdays. 1-1 against Bielefeld 1 month ago. On Saturday they play against Leipzig. After that, they will probably still only have 1 point and remain last in the table. I think Leipzig will score at least 3 goals.

They started their Bundesliga journey this season very chaotic, losing to Stuttgart 5 - 1. Maybe they were surprised to feel the atmosphere of the Bundesliga after a long time of not feeling it Cheesy

, and I agree with you that it looks like they will be slaughtered in the next game, because the match will be held at the Red Bull Arena. I predict there will be more than 5 goals in this match.

I would say that they simply lack the quality to compete in the Bundesliga. When you compare them to Union Berlin, there is a huge difference between them during their first season of advancing to the Bundesliga. Union Berlin was able to at least get some slightly above average kickers into their squad and now they are even well established. I think Fuerth just doesn't have the means. They are too small of a club.

So far, no team from the 2nd division has ever started so badly.... It's strange that they haven't taken the spirit from the last season with them. They were no worse than 5th place there since matchday 6, but the departure of 4 regular players was probably too much.

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Quote from: hahay on October 21, 2021, 01:48:59 AM

I don't think Leipzig have a chance of winning last night's CL match against PSG, but for Dortmund and Wolfsburg I think it's a surprising result because basically they can still match the opponent but in fact they lost badly. For the Bundeliga game at the weekend I personally believe they will get full points except for Wolfsburg, Wolfsburg will play against Freiburg and even though it is a home game for Wolfsburg I just don't believe Wolfsburg will win here, a deserved draw for them.

this time it will be a pretty tough match for Wolfsburg because Freiburg has not lost in 8 matches played. Freiburg is also prolific in scoring away goals. so I believe Wolfsburg has to play carefully in this game.
I will bet on Freiburg winning, maybe just 1 or 2 Goals winning. because this time they played away at the Volkswagen Arena.

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Quote from: Lafu on October 20, 2021, 08:59:45 PM

Looks like Dortmund , Wolfsburg and Leipzig continuing there playing that they have in the german league also in the champions league .
The only team that keeps playing good and are winning is Bayern Munich with a great and good match as i have seen in the review.
Lets see what they are all doing on the coming Weekend and if they playing better in the League now.

I don't think Leipzig have a chance of winning last night's CL match against PSG, but for Dortmund and Wolfsburg I think it's a surprising result because basically they can still match the opponent but in fact they lost badly. For the Bundeliga game at the weekend I personally believe they will get full points except for Wolfsburg, Wolfsburg will play against Freiburg and even though it is a home game for Wolfsburg I just don't believe Wolfsburg will win here, a deserved draw for them.

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Looks like Dortmund , Wolfsburg and Leipzig continuing there playing that they have in the german league also in the champions league .
The only team that keeps playing good and are winning is Bayern Munich with a great and good match as i have seen in the review.
Lets see what they are all doing on the coming Weekend and if they playing better in the League now.

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Quote from: MAAManda on October 20, 2021, 06:04:16 PM

Quote from: bct_ail on October 20, 2021, 05:26:51 PM

Greuther Fuerth have only managed 1 point after 8 matchdays. 1-1 against Bielefeld 1 month ago. On Saturday they play against Leipzig. After that, they will probably still only have 1 point and remain last in the table. I think Leipzig will score at least 3 goals.

They started their Bundesliga journey this season very chaotic, losing to Stuttgart 5 - 1. Maybe they were surprised to feel the atmosphere of the Bundesliga after a long time of not feeling it Cheesy

, and I agree with you that it looks like they will be slaughtered in the next game, because the match will be held at the Red Bull Arena. I predict there will be more than 5 goals in this match.

I would say that they simply lack the quality to compete in the Bundesliga. When you compare them to Union Berlin, there is a huge difference between them during their first season of advancing to the Bundesliga. Union Berlin was able to at least get some slightly above average kickers into their squad and now they are even well established. I think Fuerth just doesn't have the means. They are too small of a club.

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Quote from: bct_ail on October 20, 2021, 05:26:51 PM

Greuther Fuerth have only managed 1 point after 8 matchdays. 1-1 against Bielefeld 1 month ago. On Saturday they play against Leipzig. After that, they will probably still only have 1 point and remain last in the table. I think Leipzig will score at least 3 goals.

They started their Bundesliga journey this season very chaotic, losing to Stuttgart 5 - 1. Maybe they were surprised to feel the atmosphere of the Bundesliga after a long time of not feeling it Cheesy

, and I agree with you that it looks like they will be slaughtered in the next game, because the match will be held at the Red Bull Arena. I predict there will be more than 5 goals in this match.

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Greuther Fuerth have only managed 1 point after 8 matchdays. 1-1 against Bielefeld 1 month ago. On Saturday they play against Leipzig. After that, they will probably still only have 1 point and remain last in the table. I think Leipzig will score at least 3 goals.

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Quote from: Bilgent on October 20, 2021, 03:50:06 PM

I think that the most satisfying match of the week was absolutely the Leverkusen v Bayern Munich. Who would have thought that Bayern Munich would just crush Leverkusen with a huge 5-1 result? Leverkusen were one of the best in-form teams in the league in the end. They had the same points with Bayern Munich before this match started. But they had nothing to do against this powerful Bayern Munich.

I literally though the match was going to end draw. But It came as a surprise on how Bayern scored 5 goals in the first half, Leverkusen got beaten brutally. I have no doubt that Bayer Leverkusen lost hope in winning or drawing the match after the first half ended. They only managed to score a goal in the second half, and they will surely beat Köln in their next match. Bayern munich is definitely the most powerful in the Bundesliga, they are just too good in their League and even in the Champion League.

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I think that the most satisfying match of the week was absolutely the Leverkusen v Bayern Munich. Who would have thought that Bayern Munich would just crush Leverkusen with a huge 5-1 result? Leverkusen were one of the best in-form teams in the league in the end. They had the same points with Bayern Munich before this match started. But they had nothing to do against this powerful Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on October 20, 2021, 03:43:58 AM

Even though there is only one point difference between Bayern and Dortmund at the moment, I doubt Dortmund can end Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga. Because there are still 26 games to go, I am pessimistic that Dortmund can play consistently, Dortmund will likely lose a lot of points. Unlike Bayern, which already has a winning mentality, I believe this season Bayern will again win the Bundesliga trophy.
I agree that the mistake that Dortmund often makes is to always let go of their star players, especially several times selling star players to Bayern, it must be stopped immediately if Dortmund really wants to end Bayern's dominance. I really want other team to win the Bundesliga, so that the Bundesliga competition is more exciting if the winner is difficult to predict. I also hoped that Leverkusen could compete with Bayern and Dortmund for the Bundesliga trophy, but after Leverkusen was beaten 1-5 by Bayern, I must admit that Leverkusen's level is still far below Bayern.

Everyone doubts Dortmund could do that, it is obvious that Dortmund is not seen as the team that will end the dominance of Bayern, not this time at least, maybe some other time. They do not have Klopp or Tuchel anymore, they have Haaland which is a big big name, but I doubt that they would be able to keep him for long neither, hell there are talks about Haaland being the first big name Newcastle gets as well, they have enough money to spend 200+ million on the transfer fee and 50 million for the player, will they do it? We do not know, it is only a rumor, but we know that they can afford it at least, 250 million is NOTHING for Saudi prince, dude worths 300+ billion dollars, that is like me spending 25 bucks on something, hell probably even easier than that for this guy.

So Dortmund will not keep this up, Bayern will, and the difference will be 10+ points at least by the end of the season when Bayern is declared champions.

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Quote from: minairia3 on October 20, 2021, 11:59:02 AM

The German league has been the Bayern league for quite a long period of time and I don't see that changing this season. I somewhat expected that they will have a hard time winning against Leverkusen in the last match as Leverkusen were 2nd in the table and were playing very well so far. But it seemed like Bayern toyed with them. As long as Lewandowski, Muller, Gnabry will be on form, I hardly think Bayern will miss any title in the next few seasons.

There are some teams who are next in positions to them but they are far below the Bayern level. The squad they have is a very great squad from defence, midfield and attack and is the best in German Bundesliga and no doubt they are dominating Bundesliga. But still it makes a league kinda boring IMO to see someone dominating for a long time. Last time Leipzig was close but they started losing out points. This time also so far Dortmund is keeping up with Bayern on the table but they have to keep it till the end if they serious want to challenge Bayern for the title race.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 20, 2021, 07:33:57 AM

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I surely think the same, Bayern now is playing a different level of soccer, while other teams are left behind, I think that even without Robert Lewandowski Bayern can perform very well, but with Lewandowski on the team Bayern can be unbeatable, but that one thing against Frankfurt had exposed Bayern that, this team can still make mistakes, and that one match against them have gotten Bayern a losing score, I just wish Robert Lewandowski would not have any problem with injuries, because if it did, this could open an opportunity for other teams to take a step, and in my opinion, Dortmund is the only team that can take Bayern Toe to toe and has a chance in making another dent in Bayerns Standings.

And December 4 might be the day for this team to clash, and this will be the most awaited match for a lot of fans if Dortmund can able a win against Bayern.

The German league has been the Bayern league for quite a long period of time and I don't see that changing this season. I somewhat expected that they will have a hard time winning against Leverkusen in the last match as Leverkusen were 2nd in the table and were playing very well so far. But it seemed like Bayern toyed with them. As long as Lewandowski, Muller, Gnabry will be on form, I hardly think Bayern will miss any title in the next few seasons.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on October 20, 2021, 03:43:58 AM

Even though there is only one point difference between Bayern and Dortmund at the moment, I doubt Dortmund can end Bayern's dominance
in the Bundesliga. Because there are still 26 games to go, I am pessimistic that Dortmund can play consistently, Dortmund will likely lose
a lot of points. Unlike Bayern, which already has a winning mentality, I believe this season Bayern will again win the Bundesliga trophy.
I agree that the mistake that Dortmund often makes is to always let go of their star players, especially several times selling star players to Bayern,
it must be stopped immediately if Dortmund really wants to end Bayern's dominance. I really want other team to win the Bundesliga, so that
the Bundesliga competition is more exciting if the winner is difficult to predict. I also hoped that Leverkusen could compete with Bayern
and Dortmund for the Bundesliga trophy, but after Leverkusen was beaten 1-5 by Bayern, I must admit that Leverkusen's level is still far below Bayern.

I surely think the same, Bayern now is playing a different level of soccer, while other teams are left behind, I think that even without Robert Lewandowski Bayern can perform very well, but with Lewandowski on the team Bayern can be unbeatable, but that one thing against Frankfurt had exposed Bayern that, this team can still make mistakes, and that one match against them have gotten Bayern a losing score, I just wish Robert Lewandowski would not have any problem with injuries, because if it did, this could open an opportunity for other teams to take a step, and in my opinion, Dortmund is the only team that can take Bayern Toe to toe and has a chance in making another dent in Bayerns Standings.

And December 4 might be the day for this team to clash, and this will be the most awaited match for a lot of fans if Dortmund can able a win against Bayern.

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Because they have best players in Bundesliga and the average quality of their squad is better than opponents. They have support from history. We know in soccer, history has its voice. In direct match between two competitors for title like Bayern and Leverkusen recently, history will help Bayern begin the match with confidence but Leverkusen begin it with fear.

Dortmund has more experience and they are stronger than Leverkusen when they fight against Bayern. However, to beat Bayern in a complete season, it is not easy for Dortmund. They will lose the fight if they lose Haaland by injury.

For the last 10 years Bayern has been more dominant by winning eight titles, while Dortmund has two Bundesliga titles and with this striking comparison of course the quality of Dortmund is still far below Bayern Munich in all respects.
In my opinion, so far the factor of selling players to the team others are the main factors for dortmund so it is difficult to break the dominance of bayern munchen, you can see many former dortmund players who do have quite good quality and dortmund even not hesitate to sell them to a rival team (bayern munchen), if dormund wants to stop bayern domination munchen of course the first thing they do is stop selling their players to bayern munchen from now on.
I even suspect that maybe Haaland will be part of the Bayern Munich squad in the future if Dortmund can't look after him properly.

Even though there is only one point difference between Bayern and Dortmund at the moment, I doubt Dortmund can end Bayern's dominance
in the Bundesliga. Because there are still 26 games to go, I am pessimistic that Dortmund can play consistently, Dortmund will likely lose
a lot of points. Unlike Bayern, which already has a winning mentality, I believe this season Bayern will again win the Bundesliga trophy.
I agree that the mistake that Dortmund often makes is to always let go of their star players, especially several times selling star players to Bayern,
it must be stopped immediately if Dortmund really wants to end Bayern's dominance. I really want other team to win the Bundesliga, so that
the Bundesliga competition is more exciting if the winner is difficult to predict. I also hoped that Leverkusen could compete with Bayern
and Dortmund for the Bundesliga trophy, but after Leverkusen was beaten 1-5 by Bayern, I must admit that Leverkusen's level is still far below Bayern.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 19, 2021, 09:34:55 PM

Quote from: DU18 on October 19, 2021, 02:25:22 PM

From year to year bayern munchen continues to be the ruler of the bundesliga and it's not something we need to be surprised anymore so far, honestly i hope this season there will be a team that is able to break the domination of bayern munchen be it leverkusen or dortmund, so far i see dortmund it looks like just content to end the season as runners up and not as champions and maybe even that will keep repeating itself every season.

Because they have best players in Bundesliga and the average quality of their squad is better than opponents. They have support from history. We know in soccer, history has its voice. In direct match between two competitors for title like Bayern and Leverkusen recently, history will help Bayern begin the match with confidence but Leverkusen begin it with fear.

Dortmund has more experience and they are stronger than Leverkusen when they fight against Bayern. However, to beat Bayern in a complete season, it is not easy for Dortmund. They will lose the fight if they lose Haaland by injury.

For the last 10 years Bayern has been more dominant by winning eight titles, while Dortmund has two Bundesliga titles and with this striking comparison of course the quality of Dortmund is still far below Bayern Munich in all respects.
In my opinion, so far the factor of selling players to the team others are the main factors for dortmund so it is difficult to break the dominance of bayern munchen, you can see many former dortmund players who do have quite good quality and dortmund even not hesitate to sell them to a rival team (bayern munchen), if dormund wants to stop bayern domination munchen of course the first thing they do is stop selling their players to bayern munchen from now on.
I even suspect that maybe Haaland will be part of the Bayern Munich squad in the future if Dortmund can't look after him properly.

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Quote from: jaberwock on October 19, 2021, 04:56:50 PM

Is it just me or did Lewa never really reached this level before? I mean yes he was a great player and I always believed that he was a great player, but he was never "this" level was he? Like for real for the past 2.5 years or so, like maybe 2019 at the latest, he switched and became a player that look like a 10x version of his old self.

He was always good, he was great even at Dortmund and after he came to Bayern he became even better and I am not saying that he was ever bad, think of all the strikers you know and good ones, like for example he was at the level of players like gabrieljesus, or aguero, or suarez and so forth, all of those players are world class and amazing players right? Lewa was like that as well and I really liked him during that period as well. However these past 2-3 years he became someone that is seriously at a whole another world compared to everyone else.

Lewandowski is unarguably the best striker in the world. He scores goals like it is very simple to score.His goals continue to make Bayern Munich one of the best teams in Europe,because Lewa delivers on daily basis,and in almost all the competitions,so you see why Lewa will remain the best in the world.With the goals he has scored,he was suppose to be named one time as the best player in the world,but since only goals are not the reason they give Ballin d'or,he hasn't been made the best player yet.

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