Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 26.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 03, 2024, 06:49:22 PM

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After 3 consecutive defeats in all the competitions they run, Dortmund finally managed to get their victory back this week.

I actually don't have big expectations for Dortmund but indeed this result clearly makes them regain confidence especially the club they managed to beat was Leipzig, whose statistics at the start of the season were very good this season.

This is a good momentum for Nuri Sahin and he must stay with this path if he does not want his coaching position to be threatened because after all now Dortmund must try harder to get their performance back and can be a club that remains in the competition for trophies.
In this match they were in control and their dominance from the first half eventually led to the 3 points after Guirassyi scored the winning goal.

It was an interesting game to watch in the German Bundesliga when Borussia Dortmund surprisingly defeated in form RB Leipzig and I think the victory will go a long way in imprving the mentality of Nuri Sahin's inamen who's been inconsistent with their performances this season. Serhou Guirassy did find the back of the net in that game but he's not been prolific as he was last season that he finished the league campaign with 28 goals for his former club Stuttgart. If Borussia Dortmund must stay consistent again this season, then Guirassy must find his scoring boots again.

It is quite interesting to see Borussia Dortmund back to their feet after their shock defeat to Madrid in the UEFA champions League and another loss in in German bundesliga. I think it is a well deserved win because a lot of people would have thought that RB Leipzig were going to beat Dortmund who seem to be a bit unstable at the moment but they managed to navigate through what was seen as an impossible mission for the German giants. At some point the Dortmund side seemed as if they were experiencing momentary issues after their loss to Madrid which in turn affected their performance but all of those issues ended when they won against RB Leipzig and I think their confidence have restored once again.

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I didn't quite understand your point/what you want to prove. If Aston Villa is a top team and Bayern lost, then he is right, if Aston Villa is an average/weak team, then Bayern's defeat even more clearly shows that Bayern is not ready to compete at the top level. In general, no one disputes the good performance of German clubs in European competitions (they now seem to be first in the overall ranking), but this does not mean that in individual confrontations they are mostly favorites.

You probably choose not to understand the point am making otherwise it's clear to grasp. Aston villa having a one narrow win against elite team as Bayern doesn't automatically qualify them to be called a top team in Europe. Villa has never played in any European league competition since not until now and immediately because they won Bayern Munich you guys now assume them a top team position in the UCL. How ridiculous!

Are you delirious? No one is saying Aston Villa are the best in Europe or even close. We are talking about the strength of Bayern and obviously here we need to look at the results with strong teams (Aston Villa is certainly one of them) and not with clubs like Dinamo Zagreb.
Ok, I don't care how you rate Aston Villa, but how do you rate the fact that Bayern lost? As a coincidence? Probably other results with strong teams are also a coincidence?

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Quote from: Lafu on November 03, 2024, 04:29:47 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on November 03, 2024, 04:08:18 PM

Bayern Munich beating out Union Berlin wasn't really unexpected, of course they won that game, and they are looking strong as ever yet again, which is what we come to expect from Bayern Munich usually ,it wasn't the case last season but this season they look like they are better at league once again so this win was expected and good.

I agree that this season Bayern Munich looks for sure better and good as they did the last season.
That they have won against Union Berlin was really not a sursprise and unexpected as you have written.
But there are a few things that they have to work on specially in there defense , they have sometimes some troubles.

I have absolutely no complaints about Bayern Munich's performance against Berlin. They have a solid attack and defence, a clean sheet, and good game management with minimum effort. They played more calmly in this game. It's great to see them keep their clean sheet after three games. Hopefully, they can defend this much longer.

I know you're worried about their defense when they face a high-profile opponent in the UCL. But, they're slowly improving. Their consistency in the Bundesliga will help them to bounce back.

It's pretty interesting to see how well Bayern Munich is to face a great opponent at UCL. They seem well prepared to face a tight game, and the game against Benfica is gonna be a good test.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 04, 2024, 08:55:35 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on November 03, 2024, 06:44:10 PM

That's why I said that Kompany must cope with this situation. So that he can optimize all the performance of his squad in not only the Bundesliga but also the UCL. But we also appreciate how Kompany has been able to maintain his position in the Bundesliga so far. This will always be a development and progress that Kompany must work on in order to make Bayern Munich really strong not only in the Bundesliga but also in the UCL or other leagues to fight big teams.

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Though Bayern Munich haven't been totally perfect this season but we can't shy away from the fact that they're more improved than the Bayern Munich team we saw under Thomas Tuchel last season that finished the entire campaign without a trophy. Vincent Kompany is doing his best but still needs to improve and I'm very optimistic he'll continue to improve Bayern Munich. I see them conquering not just Germany but Europe in no distant time if they continue to improve with their current pace

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 03, 2024, 06:44:10 PM

That's why I said that Kompany must cope with this situation. So that he can optimize all the performance of his squad in not only the Bundesliga but also the UCL. But we also appreciate how Kompany has been able to maintain his position in the Bundesliga so far. This will always be a development and progress that Kompany must work on in order to make Bayern Munich really strong not only in the Bundesliga but also in the UCL or other leagues to fight big teams.

Source: Vincent Kompany

Well it's all starts with getting it right within a particular sphere before which you move on to the next, I'm also aware that every coach of international standards is supposed to build a copping mechanism with which they use to scale through both regular and unusual situations, for kompany domestic leagues has been his thing and not champions League but with Timi if Bayern keeps him for the benefits of doubts, the story may turn out different subsequently, I'm optimistic about that because the domestic performance shows growth is very possible with such a team.

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Quote from: W Jr. on November 03, 2024, 09:48:14 PM

Bayern Munich was already very good at attacking football. They have problems in defensive areas. They have the same problem in the Champions League. I think Bayern Munich needs to pay attention to their defense. If they can handle their defense, they will have no problems offensively. They have very good forwards and Harry Kane scores a lot of goals. I think they will win the German league this year. They couldn't win last year and they are very ambitious this year.

A club must have a balance between attack and defense, including a balance in the midfield that bridges the two positions in these very important areas. The role of the midfielder is very important, because if they cannot maintain the rhythm of the game and cannot maintain balance, then the game will be chaotic. I think Bayern Munich currently has all of that. Their defense also looks good to me, maybe we have different points of view on this. 7 goals were created from 9 appearances they played in the Bundesliga I think that's fine. Maybe when they lost in the Champions League it was seen how fragile their defense was.

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Quote from: pusaka on November 04, 2024, 06:59:03 AM

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Quote from: mamesso on November 03, 2024, 11:20:57 PM

If the club's habit of selling young players is eliminated, perhaps Dortmund will be a strong contender in the hunt for the Bundesliga trophy. This habit is a weakness in my opinion, they sell star players at high prices then look for other talented young players at cheaper prices to become star players. Now the level of competition in the Bundesliga is very competitive, Leverkusen is starting to show its fangs, Leipzig is also still very consistent in maintaining its performance and Frankfurt is also a dark horse team that is ready to provide a surprise. If Dortmund cannot improve their squad depth, they will struggle to compete for a top-four finish and face a Champions League exit.

The habit will not be removed and most people here must know that Dortmund has been known as a business team since long ago. It seems to have been agreed upon by the management and sometimes all of that has a purpose that we do not know. And regarding Leverkusen, I actually still doubt this team to be able to survive in the long term to compete for the bundesliga title. Because we know that Munich has started to become a more consistent team even though there is Leipzig who is trying to catch up with Munich but all of that will not last long.

I don't know how motivated they are to win the title, because what I see is that their motivation in doing business is very big. Is that a bad thing? I can't say it's bad, because a team has to do business and in football now everything is business. However, I can also say it's bad, because they don't put achievement and business on the same level. They should be able to make business and achievement go hand in hand, without one being higher than the other. A team will also have difficulties if they are not good at doing business, and when they prioritize business, then Borussia Dortmund is a real example. I hope the management can change this habit, because if they want, they can actually achieve great achievements.

Few months ago we have already to discuss about this that why Dortmund has a habit always sell their potential players is they want to stabilized their financial and when other teams are interested want to buy their players then usually those teams are willing to bought the players with expensive price so Dortmund can used those money for salary players and for club needed but indeed some of Dortmund former players has complaining these habit that Dortmund will always be hard to compete with Bayern Munich for race title if they didn't stopped their habit but i don't think Dortmund president will be considering these suggestions and they will always to thinking to sell the players with expensive price

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Quote from: tusandii on November 03, 2024, 10:16:13 PM

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It was an interesting game to watch in the German Bundesliga when Borussia Dortmund surprisingly defeated in form RB Leipzig and I think the victory will go a long way in improving the mentality of Nuri Sahin's men who's been inconsistent with their performances this season. Serhou Guirassy did find the back of the net in that game but he's not been prolific as he was last season that he finished the league campaign with 28 goals for his former club Stuttgart. If Borussia Dortmund must stay consistent again this season, then Guirassy must find his scoring boots again.

Dortmund's victory over Leipzig has its own satisfaction for its supporters because Dortmund was able to defeat a strong competitor in the Bundesliga which makes me wonder a little why Dortmund was able to defeat Leipzig but could not defeat Augsburg and Wolfsburg which are clubs that are weaker than Leipzig? Has Dortmund really fixed their previous mistakes? I would be quite happy if Dortmund improved because recently Dortmund's performance has declined quite sharply as a top club that is always in the top 3. Regarding Guraissy, he has not been as productive as last season but this season he is at a different club and needs to adapt to be productive again.

Yes, it's quite surprising that Dortmund managed to beat Leipzig, which is certainly a strong team this season, but in the previous few matches they lost to two weak teams, namely Augsburg and Wolfsburg as you said, and to be honest I don't know whether they have really experienced a change in performance for the better as you thought or not, but what is certain is that from what I saw in the previous two matches when they lost against the weak team, namely Dortmund playing away and we can see when they managed to win over Leipzig, they played at home which might mean that Dortmund's performance and mentality are good when they play at home.
On the other hand, yes, I also feel a little sad when I see Dortmund starting to be shifted in the competition until it makes them now in the top 5 of the standings, but of course it doesn't mean it's impossible for them to climb up as time goes by this season.

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Quote from: len01 on November 04, 2024, 06:12:20 AM

Quote from: mamesso on November 03, 2024, 11:20:57 PM

If the club's habit of selling young players is eliminated, perhaps Dortmund will be a strong contender in the hunt for the Bundesliga trophy. This habit is a weakness in my opinion, they sell star players at high prices then look for other talented young players at cheaper prices to become star players. Now the level of competition in the Bundesliga is very competitive, Leverkusen is starting to show its fangs, Leipzig is also still very consistent in maintaining its performance and Frankfurt is also a dark horse team that is ready to provide a surprise. If Dortmund cannot improve their squad depth, they will struggle to compete for a top-four finish and face a Champions League exit.

The habit will not be removed and most people here must know that Dortmund has been known as a business team since long ago. It seems to have been agreed upon by the management and sometimes all of that has a purpose that we do not know. And regarding Leverkusen, I actually still doubt this team to be able to survive in the long term to compete for the bundesliga title. Because we know that Munich has started to become a more consistent team even though there is Leipzig who is trying to catch up with Munich but all of that will not last long.

I don't know how motivated they are to win the title, because what I see is that their motivation in doing business is very big. Is that a bad thing? I can't say it's bad, because a team has to do business and in football now everything is business. However, I can also say it's bad, because they don't put achievement and business on the same level. They should be able to make business and achievement go hand in hand, without one being higher than the other. A team will also have difficulties if they are not good at doing business, and when they prioritize business, then Borussia Dortmund is a real example. I hope the management can change this habit, because if they want, they can actually achieve great achievements.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 03, 2024, 11:20:57 PM

If the club's habit of selling young players is eliminated, perhaps Dortmund will be a strong contender in the hunt for the Bundesliga trophy. This habit is a weakness in my opinion, they sell star players at high prices then look for other talented young players at cheaper prices to become star players. Now the level of competition in the Bundesliga is very competitive, Leverkusen is starting to show its fangs, Leipzig is also still very consistent in maintaining its performance and Frankfurt is also a dark horse team that is ready to provide a surprise. If Dortmund cannot improve their squad depth, they will struggle to compete for a top-four finish and face a Champions League exit.

The habit will not be removed and most people here must know that Dortmund has been known as a business team since long ago. It seems to have been agreed upon by the management and sometimes all of that has a purpose that we do not know. And regarding Leverkusen, I actually still doubt this team to be able to survive in the long term to compete for the bundesliga title. Because we know that Munich has started to become a more consistent team even though there is Leipzig who is trying to catch up with Munich but all of that will not last long.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 03, 2024, 11:22:59 PM

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In terms of quality this season RB Leipzig should be favored to be able to beat Dortmund who are in an unstable situation. But again Dortmund was able to surprise us in the midst of their consecutive defeats in the last 3 competitions and was able to come out as the winner. Dortmund must show that next in the Champions League they are able to win 3 points too because SK Strum Graz cannot be considered balanced in terms of player quality with Dortmund.

The lack of opportunities made RB Leipzig have to suffer defeat in this match and there were several good opportunities that were not utilized properly so that only one goal was created. Dortmund was quite optimal in this match and they did not waste the opportunity to score goals even though there were several opportunities that were missed because the finishing was not coordinated between players. Victory when facing RB Leipzig will motivate them to win the next match in the Champions League and I am sure it will be an easy match because the opponents they face are much weaker.

I think this is one of the best performances that Borussia Dortmund can show this season after their performances that were quite skeptical in several previous matches. This time they managed to beat one of the teams that are in the top competition in the standings, clearly this is a good result for them. However, I hope they are not satisfied with the victory they managed to get in this match. Because their journey this season is still very long. At least they can get back on track and they must be able to slowly get it. This victory with a pretty good game will be capital for them in the next match.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 02, 2024, 10:13:58 PM

Bayern Munich's chances of winning the Champions League title are getting smaller after experiencing 2 unexpected defeats, rather than chasing a title that is very difficult to achieve, it is better to chase the title they are used to getting. Bundesliga is Bayern Munich's dominant and this club lost its title last season so I think this season Bayern Munich will get back what was lost because it seems Leverkusen is not as strong as last season and I think Leipzig will not be able to stop Bayern Munich.

And thanks to the victory of Bayern Munich and Dortmund I won the bet as well as not forgetting Frankfurt who performed impressively against Bochum by scoring many goals quite satisfied with the final result of this weekend's match.

I would not rule out Bayern Munich's hopes of winning this season's German Bundesliga. Most teams in hot pursuit of the crown do not have the same level of quality that Bayern possesses. For example, Bayer Leverkusen has not yet lived up to expectations in this current Bundesliga campaign and is experiencing a dip in form, possibly due to minor injuries affecting key players. Similarly, Borussia Dortmund and VfL Stuttgart face their own challenges; Stuttgart sold their star player to Dortmund and is trying to assemble a team capable of winning the Bundesliga.

Bayern has indeed turned the German Bundesliga into a personalized league, and I’m confident they will be the ones to win it this time around. I don’t think we will see a repeat of last season, when Bayern's rivals Bayer Leverkusen lifted the trophy. Bayern has made some vital adjustments and has firmly established themselves as the eventual winners of this season's league.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 03, 2024, 11:22:59 PM

Quote from: bitLeap on November 03, 2024, 10:32:38 PM

In terms of quality this season RB Leipzig should be favored to be able to beat Dortmund who are in an unstable situation. But again Dortmund was able to surprise us in the midst of their consecutive defeats in the last 3 competitions and was able to come out as the winner. Dortmund must show that next in the Champions League they are able to win 3 points too because SK Strum Graz cannot be considered balanced in terms of player quality with Dortmund.

The lack of opportunities made RB Leipzig have to suffer defeat in this match and there were several good opportunities that were not utilized properly so that only one goal was created. Dortmund was quite optimal in this match and they did not waste the opportunity to score goals even though there were several opportunities that were missed because the finishing was not coordinated between players. Victory when facing RB Leipzig will motivate them to win the next match in the Champions League and I am sure it will be an easy match because the opponents they face are much weaker.

Well, having a weak opponent doesn't mean anything for Dortmund. They faced several teams this season they should have beaten with ease but still they managed to lose the game. Also, they still have many injured players so a win is not a given, even when it's "just" against Sturm Graz at home. They also know how to play, and this is the UCL, every game counts and you lose focus for a second and you might be on the losing side.
Still, obviously I hope Dortmund can keep their shxt together and manage to win this one, they really need a couple of good games ina. row so their motivation level gets back to normal. You have to believe you can win, without that it's gonna be tough. Just get some decent results, claim the momentum and turn this season around!

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 03, 2024, 10:32:38 PM

In terms of quality this season RB Leipzig should be favored to be able to beat Dortmund who are in an unstable situation. But again Dortmund was able to surprise us in the midst of their consecutive defeats in the last 3 competitions and was able to come out as the winner. Dortmund must show that next in the Champions League they are able to win 3 points too because SK Strum Graz cannot be considered balanced in terms of player quality with Dortmund.

The lack of opportunities made RB Leipzig have to suffer defeat in this match and there were several good opportunities that were not utilized properly so that only one goal was created. Dortmund was quite optimal in this match and they did not waste the opportunity to score goals even though there were several opportunities that were missed because the finishing was not coordinated between players. Victory when facing RB Leipzig will motivate them to win the next match in the Champions League and I am sure it will be an easy match because the opponents they face are much weaker.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 03, 2024, 04:54:35 PM

Quote from: stompix on November 02, 2024, 03:26:54 PM

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Dortmund is actually experienced is just that hey sell key players too often so it makes them looks like they don't have a stabile form with which they play consistently but then they aren't any weak team compared to Leipzig who could be considered relatively an average team literally but then not to be taken for granted at some point because they are going to surprise any team not minding their foem and status. Dortmund is to me a CL team and can still maintain such status for the longest event with their selling policies.

If the club's habit of selling young players is eliminated, perhaps Dortmund will be a strong contender in the hunt for the Bundesliga trophy. This habit is a weakness in my opinion, they sell star players at high prices then look for other talented young players at cheaper prices to become star players. Now the level of competition in the Bundesliga is very competitive, Leverkusen is starting to show its fangs, Leipzig is also still very consistent in maintaining its performance and Frankfurt is also a dark horse team that is ready to provide a surprise. If Dortmund cannot improve their squad depth, they will struggle to compete for a top-four finish and face a Champions League exit.

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 03, 2024, 10:32:38 PM

Quote from: Weawant on November 03, 2024, 04:54:35 PM

Quote from: stompix on November 02, 2024, 03:26:54 PM

Dortmund is actually experienced is just that hey sell key players too often so it makes them looks like they don't have a stabile form with which they play consistently but then they aren't any weak team compared to Leipzig who could be considered relatively an average team literally but then not to be taken for granted at some point because they are going to surprise any team not minding their foem and status. Dortmund is to me a CL team and can still maintain such status for the longest event with their selling policies.

In terms of quality this season RB Leipzig should be favored to be able to beat Dortmund who are in an unstable situation. But again Dortmund was able to surprise us in the midst of their consecutive defeats in the last 3 competitions and was able to come out as the winner. Dortmund must show that next in the Champions League they are able to win 3 points too because SK Strum Graz cannot be considered balanced in terms of player quality with Dortmund.

Basically, both teams are equally strong teams and they certainly do not want to lose. In fact, Dortmund's victory over Leipzig is not surprising because as is known for the past few seasons, Leipzig and Dortmund have always been Bayern's competitors at the top and in fact Dortmund still has the ability to defeat other strong rivals, it's just that sometimes they are quite careless which causes them to lose when playing against ordinary teams.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 03, 2024, 04:54:35 PM

Quote from: stompix on November 02, 2024, 03:26:54 PM

Dortmund is actually experienced is just that hey sell key players too often so it makes them looks like they don't have a stabile form with which they play consistently but then they aren't any weak team compared to Leipzig who could be considered relatively an average team literally but then not to be taken for granted at some point because they are going to surprise any team not minding their foem and status. Dortmund is to me a CL team and can still maintain such status for the longest event with their selling policies.

In terms of quality this season RB Leipzig should be favored to be able to beat Dortmund who are in an unstable situation. But again Dortmund was able to surprise us in the midst of their consecutive defeats in the last 3 competitions and was able to come out as the winner. Dortmund must show that next in the Champions League they are able to win 3 points too because SK Strum Graz cannot be considered balanced in terms of player quality with Dortmund.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 03, 2024, 06:49:22 PM

It was an interesting game to watch in the German Bundesliga when Borussia Dortmund surprisingly defeated in form RB Leipzig and I think the victory will go a long way in improving the mentality of Nuri Sahin's men who's been inconsistent with their performances this season. Serhou Guirassy did find the back of the net in that game but he's not been prolific as he was last season that he finished the league campaign with 28 goals for his former club Stuttgart. If Borussia Dortmund must stay consistent again this season, then Guirassy must find his scoring boots again.

Dortmund's victory over Leipzig has its own satisfaction for its supporters because Dortmund was able to defeat a strong competitor in the Bundesliga which makes me wonder a little why Dortmund was able to defeat Leipzig but could not defeat Augsburg and Wolfsburg which are clubs that are weaker than Leipzig? Has Dortmund really fixed their previous mistakes? I would be quite happy if Dortmund improved because recently Dortmund's performance has declined quite sharply as a top club that is always in the top 3. Regarding Guraissy, he has not been as productive as last season but this season he is at a different club and needs to adapt to be productive again.

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Quote from: Lafu on November 03, 2024, 04:29:47 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on November 03, 2024, 04:08:18 PM

Bayern Munich beating out Union Berlin wasn't really unexpected, of course they won that game, and they are looking strong as ever yet again, which is what we come to expect from Bayern Munich usually ,it wasn't the case last season but this season they look like they are better at league once again so this win was expected and good.

I agree that this season Bayern Munich looks for sure better and good as they did the last season.
That they have won against Union Berlin was really not a sursprise and unexpected as you have written.
But there are a few things that they have to work on specially in there defense , they have sometimes some troubles.

Bayern Munich was already very good at attacking football. They have problems in defensive areas. They have the same problem in the Champions League. I think Bayern Munich needs to pay attention to their defense. If they can handle their defense, they will have no problems offensively. They have very good forwards and Harry Kane scores a lot of goals. I think they will win the German league this year. They couldn't win last year and they are very ambitious this year.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 03, 2024, 04:54:35 PM

Quote from: stompix on November 02, 2024, 03:26:54 PM

Well I take it back, Dortmund finally managed to play like an actual CL team when needed, not as impressive as coming back from 2-0 but still, in the end it looked like they had it in the back for quite a while, Leipzig might have started strong but they did fizzle as minutes passed, normally you would expect them to throw everything at it to manage a draw but they seem unable to look menacing. Anyhow it's their style, Leipzig is more about not getting a goal in their net than scoring one with their adversaries.

Dortmund is actually experienced is just that hey sell key players too often so it makes them looks like they don't have a stabile form with which they play consistently but then they aren't any weak team compared to Leipzig who could be considered relatively an average team literally but then not to be taken for granted at some point because they are going to surprise any team not minding their foem and status. Dortmund is to me a CL team and can still maintain such status for the longest event with their selling policies.

Dortmund is indeed one of the good teams with extensive experience, and they are also a good competitor Dortmund makes sales every year that's what happens their management needs a lot of money and they want to take good advantage and they create new young players again every season that's what happens to Dortmund they are not a rich club but with sales every season they are already very profitable and I think they want to walk with new young players every year.

Talking about their victory when facing Lipziegh it was quite good after losing in their last 3 matches now they have risen and played quite optimally against the same strong team, but seeing the reality this season Dortmund has a big problem when they play away they are not able to compete well in their 3 defeats it happened when they played away and when they played at home they are quite fierce so it is very difficult to destroy and I think Sahin must find a way to fix their away mentality so that there are no more defeats in the next match.

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