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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on December 11, 2024, 09:14:51 PM

Quote from: iamsange on December 11, 2024, 03:42:42 AM

Catching up on the six points already owned by Bayern Munich is not easy for Frankfurt if Bayern Munich is still strong enough to dominate the Bundesliga this season. Moreover, if Frankfurt itself does not have the power to surpass the strength of Bayern Munich so that it will also be a very real obstacle for Frankfurt and even Frankfurt's position itself is still likely to be taken by Leverkusen if Frankfurt's consistency does not continue to increase in the upcoming matches.

It is indeed difficult and it is impossible for Bayern Munich to lose some points in the upcoming matches but no one knows because the league is still quite long and losing for several matches can provide opportunities for Frankfurt and Leverkusen to catch up on points from Bayern Munich. This season is different and Bayern Munich has also performed much more consistently in the Bundesliga so it feels difficult for the challengers to catch up on points but for the two teams below them they don't need to think far because the most important thing is that they can continue to be consistent.

For me I feel Frankfurt can't really meet up with the title race although this season they have really tried but it's not going to be easy for Frankfurt to met because for a team to actually be strong contestant of the league consistency must be one of the various factors which they must have and this was how Bayer Leverkusen were able to win the league last season as they were very consistent with their game play.

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Quote from: iamsange on December 11, 2024, 03:42:42 AM

Catching up on the six points already owned by Bayern Munich is not easy for Frankfurt if Bayern Munich is still strong enough to dominate the Bundesliga this season. Moreover, if Frankfurt itself does not have the power to surpass the strength of Bayern Munich so that it will also be a very real obstacle for Frankfurt and even Frankfurt's position itself is still likely to be taken by Leverkusen if Frankfurt's consistency does not continue to increase in the upcoming matches.

It is indeed difficult and it is impossible for Bayern Munich to lose some points in the upcoming matches but no one knows because the league is still quite long and losing for several matches can provide opportunities for Frankfurt and Leverkusen to catch up on points from Bayern Munich. This season is different and Bayern Munich has also performed much more consistently in the Bundesliga so it feels difficult for the challengers to catch up on points but for the two teams below them they don't need to think far because the most important thing is that they can continue to be consistent.

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Quote from: junder on December 11, 2024, 03:15:35 PM

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Currently until the end of the season there is still plenty of time for Nuri Sahin to improve his squad's position in the standings, but the obstacle is maintaining the team's performance in every match in the Bundesliga, we have seen them often have difficulty when facing teams below them. Dortmund must follow the example of Bayer and Bayern in the tight schedule that is currently being carried out they remain stable and cope very well.

Dortmund is pretty much aware of the current situation that the teams in the Bundesliga that are ahead of them in standings are doing to cope through, it will be better if they follow in their footsteps and make a very good example for themselves. Nuri Sahin performance hasn’t been outstanding in the Bundesliga, but he has been doing quite well in the champions league which is also a good one for them as a team. I am not expecting much from them this season because what they’re more focused on is the champions league which I don’t see them winning it yet and for the Bundesliga, they’re far from been the major contender and their position of the table is not yet stable to see them as one in that position for the league title.

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Quote from: Lida93 on December 11, 2024, 08:59:08 AM

I think there's nothing wrong in aiming higher, they already have a bundesliga title and now they are anticipating the champions League which I think is good for them. It has been a very long time since they got to this point, at least there is nothing wrong in having huge aspirations. Perhaps they want to prove a point in European football after becoming runners up in the Europa League, they also want to try their luck in the champions league which would be a great improvement for the German side who were one of best teams in Europe last season.

Leverkusen won their title as the other teams weren't in good form therefore what they should have done is try to win it again so people don't say they only had a lucky break. After just a one season wonder, aiming for the champions league is too much for them. They don't have the players or experience to win it. The clubs that try to win the champions League are clubs that have a good previous seasons and not just one season wonders. They don't even have the strength in them to win the league title again this season. The champions league has Liverpool, Real Madrid that'll be challenging for it, Leverkusen should forget about that and focus more on winning their league games.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM

A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

They were very successful in wasting their chances. Even Gladbach was not that strong, they also got a goal from a penalty kick, but what happened was that Dortmund was unable to add another goal until the match ended.

The problem is that Dortmund had a lot of missed chances, with more than 60% ball possession and 16 attempts at shots, isn't that a very big chance? But what happened was, Dortmund only had 3 shots on target. Then, isn't this very ineffective? No wonder, their player ratings are that disappointing.

Also, Dortmund failed in the UCL match against Barcelona. And they lost points to move up to a higher ranking.
But indeed, this match was very tight and difficult for Dortmund, they had tried, but Barcelona was able to score a goal at crucial time, and finally, Dortmund could not catch up again.

Source: MATCH REPORT: Borussia Dortmund 2-3 Barça

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Aaand Leipzig are out of the Champions League. At least according the official UEFA website who shows them as the first (and only) team that is confirmed to get eliminated. So their last 2 games remaining in the league stage (Sporting and Sturm Graz) will be for nothing.

I expected a bit more from them, given they can play really well sometimes, and, in their defence they didn't have any easy games. Still, 6 losses out of 6 games played is really poor.
At leat they can now fully focus on Bundesliga (and the DFB pokal).

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At the very least we know that Bayern is already out of the cup, so other teams could maybe work for that. Leverkusen did the hardest part, if they could beat the other teams that should be easier than beating Bayern Munich, so I am guessing they have a chance.

I think we need to remember how things could change, and for that to mean something we are going to end up with a much bigger deal on the long run as well, we need to focus on what kind of work we are going to have. I believe the best we have right now is to make sure we can deal with a much better result, and for that to actually make us profit, I am going to focus on betting Bayern to win during bundesliga games, and Leverkusen to win during cup games as well.

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Quote from: junder on December 10, 2024, 02:24:24 PM

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Yes, only one point, so it will not be difficult for Bayer to reduce this gap, there are already 7 points between them and Bayern, which will be much more difficult to reduce and so far I think that Bayern will not allow this to happen, because the level of opponents in the Bundesliga allows them to feel comfortable. But Bayer at the beginning of the season lost a lot of points with teams like Werder, Holstein, Bochum, if you want to defend the champion's title, you need to beat such teams.

In my opinion, Leverkusen should bring in new faces in the second half of the season, new strength can at least increase their chances of continuing to approach Bayern Munich's points, because I see Leverkusen's current players look mediocre, especially in defense, so far Xabi has not been able to strengthen that sector. Only a few players can be relied on on the field.

They really need to bring in more players if they want to be compete well in the title race, they are far from Bayern Munich with 30 points behind but it would have been a different case if they had added more players to the team before the commencement of the season. It is not late to do that now, we are almost half way through the season already and strengthening the squad will help them maintain their performance and secure a spot in the top 4 to appear in next season’s Champions League if they can’t win the league again.

I believe Xavi Alonso has it in mind to add more strength to the team but let’s see how it will end up when the transfer window opens.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM

A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

Nuri Şahin is still failing in the Bundesliga unfortunately. Great in the Champions League but not so much here. I'm curious about how the players can't show a similar effort in the league. Maybe because of bad handling of a tight schedule? Huh

The manager would be responsible for such thing though. One way or another Dortmund had better not fail in finishing the season in top 4 at least. It would be a big disappointment otherwise...

My expectations around Dortmund this season isn't left in the mud just yet, they have been completely brilliant and productive as expected but at the same time they aren't doing terribly either. Their current position on the table is a reflection of their performance so far and I would see that as probably within the range of an average performance. The adjustment with many to leagues that has led to the right schedule at some point is a problem these wan has got to deal with and suffer at some point so I don't think its okay to just want to blame it on the manager.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 11, 2024, 06:34:36 AM

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Catching up on the six points already owned by Bayern Munich is not easy for Frankfurt if Bayern Munich is still strong enough to dominate the Bundesliga this season. Moreover, if Frankfurt itself does not have the power to surpass the strength of Bayern Munich so that it will also be a very real obstacle for Frankfurt and even Frankfurt's position itself is still likely to be taken by Leverkusen if Frankfurt's consistency does not continue to increase in the upcoming matches.

6 points is not an easy distance to catch up, but it is not impossible to do as long as they can continue to get full points and they need Bayern Munich to stumble a little. They will still meet and in their meeting Frankfurt should be able to take advantage of that to beat Bayern Munich. However, this is clearly not easy to do, because beating a team like Bayern Munich must have a hard work and sometimes also requires a little luck to do that. With Leverkusen's success last season, that could be a motivation for them.

If this was the reverse, like if Bayern was six points behind, I would agree that it would be not impossible for Bayern to catch up, and that's what I would say right now. However, when Bayern Munich is six points ahead of everyone else, it is not really that easy for anyone else to catch up to them. Bayern Munich is the greatest team in this league, they have more championships than all teams, and because of this they grew bigger and right now they have enough financial power to make the team better every season.

Right now, they have a great team, and nobody else have any good season, normally if any team did what Leverkusen did last season then I would say maybe there would be a chance, but no other team is doing good neither, so we can say that it is not really that simple at all.

I believe the best we can move forward with could be just focusing on what kind of return we are going to have, and for that to mean something we need to focus on how to get better returns without a doubt. Bayern Munich will not be caught by anyone, they are going to end the season as champions, I know there are plenty of games left, but the gap will just continue to grow even further, they will finish with more than six points gap.

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Quote from: hahay on December 11, 2024, 03:35:50 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM

A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

Nuri Şahin is still failing in the Bundesliga unfortunately. Great in the Champions League but not so much here. I'm curious about how the players can't show a similar effort in the league. Maybe because of bad handling of a tight schedule? Huh

The manager would be responsible for such thing though. One way or another Dortmund had better not fail in finishing the season in top 4 at least. It would be a big disappointment otherwise...

Dortmund and Leipzig only have a three-point gap and also, that there is still a second half of the season and that makes Dortmund's chance for the top four still very possible to happen. I think, there is nothing to worry about because it seems from previous seasons also Dortmund is not always smooth to finish in the top four or not always easy to finish in the Champion League zone. But anyway,the fact is that Dortmund still always succeeds at the end of the season to get a Champion League ticket. Thus, for me at this time Dortmund has improved because after all, previously Dortmund was only outside the top six but at this time, it is clear that Dortmund is slowly improving and still has a chance to finish in the expected position.

Yeah. Sure, Dortmund is not bad, but we will think it is going to be hard for them to get the top four spot. It is still possible that they can achieve that because Dortmund always tries to show up in every ending of the season to know how good they are, and that is the reason why I’m still believing that Dortmund will end at the top 4 in the table.

After all, they still have a lot of games to play, and the season is not even finished yet, so we should conclude whether they will go higher or not. Let’s wait to see or maybe talk about it when the season is about to end, but right now it is still early.

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Quote from: Lida93 on December 11, 2024, 08:59:08 AM

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Yeah, despite the level of performance Leverkusen pulled off last season winning the bundesliga trophy without losing a single league match, still, they don't match in comparison with Bayern Munich who have won the bundesliga back to back, whereas Leverkusen by way of their drop in form this season doesn't seem like they could pull such show because right now they're sitting 7 points beneath Bayern Munich and am convinced Munich isn't dropping points for Leverkusen to close in on them.

I can conclude that Leverkusen are only focused on the UCL, and that is not entirely good, they do it because that is a very Madridista way of thinking, I know that in the UCL the level is higher, they have already won the Bundesliga, they have to go for the UCL, but they still have a long way to go, I see Bayern at a very high level and it is difficult for them to dethrone them, however, everything is possible in this life and more so in football, I would like Xabi to react and concentrate on the Bundesliga as well, to make history as it should be.

I think there's nothing wrong in aiming higher, they already have a bundesliga title and now they are anticipating the champions League which I think is good for them. It has been a very long time since they got to this point, at least there is nothing wrong in having huge aspirations. Perhaps they want to prove a point in European football after becoming runners up in the Europa League, they also want to try their luck in the champions league which would be a great improvement for the German side who were one of best teams in Europe last season.

We all know that Bayer Leverkusen tried their best last season. But this season it is becoming very hard for them to focus on a league; that is why we keep seeing that their performance is not on the line. Yes, they are putting more effort into the Champions League, which they are just 5 points below Liverpool, making them second in the table. But the question here is can they go far when it comes to the round of 16?. Will they be able to make it to the semifinals?

And when we come back to the Bundesliga, they are also trying the best they can, but it has been proven by Bayern Munich that they will not be able to get that title this season, which they will have to be blown away no matter the effort, although maybe they might have a luck since they are 7 points below Bayern Munich, and they might be able to meet up. That is if Bayern Munich loses their base, which will never happen.

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The difference here is that Bayer Leverkusen are capable of handling most of the big teams in the bundesliga whereas the same cannot be said about Frankfurt and at such it would be very easy for the Leverkusen side to suddenly overtake Frankfurt soon enough as the season progresses. Frankfurt's inconsistency will be a determining factor and an advantage for Leverkusen who might take advantage of Frankfurt's mistakes this season to go above them because as it is right now in the bundesliga, the only team that can compete favourites against Bayern Munich is the Leverkusen side.

Yes, only one point, so it will not be difficult for Bayer to reduce this gap, there are already 7 points between them and Bayern, which will be much more difficult to reduce and so far I think that Bayern will not allow this to happen, because the level of opponents in the Bundesliga allows them to feel comfortable. But Bayer at the beginning of the season lost a lot of points with teams like Werder, Holstein, Bochum, if you want to defend the champion's title, you need to beat such teams.

I don't know what went wrong for Bayer Leverkusen at the beginning of the Bundesliga season; they lost a lot of points even to the clubs they were meant to beat easily in the league, but they failed to do that, just like you mentioned, which has given Bayern Munich the advantage to lead Bayer Leverkusen with 7 points in the Bundesliga table. I know this is a new Bundesliga season, and it is not possible for Bayer Leverkusen to maintain the same performance they displayed last season in the Bundesliga, but they should have put in a good title defense, which would have made the Bundesliga League more competitive this season. With the performance of Bayern Munich this season, it will be hard for Bayer Leverkusen to close the gap between them and Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga table.

I don't think anything is wrong with Bayern Leverkusen, but the point is that they do not have enough quality players to maintain last season's standards. If Leverkusen had signed more quality players for this season, they would have been better than they currently are. The players who performed well last season are, for the most part, exhausted and can't maintain the same level of performance. This may be one of the reasons why their performance has declined this season.

Another thing to consider is that many teams were not in great form last season. If they had been, Leverkusen might not have played unbeaten or even won the Bundesliga. This season, however, the performance of many teams has improved, which is why Leverkusen is struggling to defeat them. Leverkusen's performance is not terrible, but the truth is that the competition in the Bundesliga has become stronger this season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM

A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

Nuri Şahin is still failing in the Bundesliga unfortunately. Great in the Champions League but not so much here. I'm curious about how the players can't show a similar effort in the league. Maybe because of bad handling of a tight schedule? Huh

The manager would be responsible for such thing though. One way or another Dortmund had better not fail in finishing the season in top 4 at least. It would be a big disappointment otherwise...

Dortmund and Leipzig only have a three-point gap and also, that there is still a second half of the season and that makes Dortmund's chance for the top four still very possible to happen. I think, there is nothing to worry about because it seems from previous seasons also Dortmund is not always smooth to finish in the top four or not always easy to finish in the Champion League zone. But anyway,the fact is that Dortmund still always succeeds at the end of the season to get a Champion League ticket. Thus, for me at this time Dortmund has improved because after all, previously Dortmund was only outside the top six but at this time, it is clear that Dortmund is slowly improving and still has a chance to finish in the expected position.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 10, 2024, 01:01:31 PM

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The difference here is that Bayer Leverkusen are capable of handling most of the big teams in the bundesliga whereas the same cannot be said about Frankfurt and at such it would be very easy for the Leverkusen side to suddenly overtake Frankfurt soon enough as the season progresses. Frankfurt's inconsistency will be a determining factor and an advantage for Leverkusen who might take advantage of Frankfurt's mistakes this season to go above them because as it is right now in the bundesliga, the only team that can compete favourites against Bayern Munich is the Leverkusen side.

Yes, only one point, so it will not be difficult for Bayer to reduce this gap, there are already 7 points between them and Bayern, which will be much more difficult to reduce and so far I think that Bayern will not allow this to happen, because the level of opponents in the Bundesliga allows them to feel comfortable. But Bayer at the beginning of the season lost a lot of points with teams like Werder, Holstein, Bochum, if you want to defend the champion's title, you need to beat such teams.

I don't know what went wrong for Bayer Leverkusen at the beginning of the Bundesliga season; they lost a lot of points even to the clubs they were meant to beat easily in the league, but they failed to do that, just like you mentioned, which has given Bayern Munich the advantage to lead Bayer Leverkusen with 7 points in the Bundesliga table. I know this is a new Bundesliga season, and it is not possible for Bayer Leverkusen to maintain the same performance they displayed last season in the Bundesliga, but they should have put in a good title defense, which would have made the Bundesliga League more competitive this season. With the performance of Bayern Munich this season, it will be hard for Bayer Leverkusen to close the gap between them and Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga table.

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So yeah, that's why Leverkusen, even if they took their strong performance from last season into the next one, would have to deal with a different Bayern Munich than what we have seen last year.

This is true, we cannot compare the past and today. Leverkusen and Bayern Munich are different mentally, the condition of the players, and the strength have all changed. Even though Leverkusen was able to defend with last season's players, of course Munich this season is different because it has added several great players. So far Leverkusen has a fairly large point difference, but this condition has not closed the opportunity to win this season. This is because there are still many other matches. All matches will be difficult to predict.

Bayern Munich football team will play match Bayer 04 Leverkusen football team and that match is very away from today because more than 2 months are remaining but Bayern Munich team performance is at top and that team is performing well and that team won 10 matches out of 13 matches and three matches were draw matches and that team has 33 points on the table. Bayer 04 Leverkusen team performance is also not bad because that team has 26 points on the table and that team won 6 matches and 5 matches were draw matches. Bayer 04 Leverkusen team is continuously winning the matches and Augsburg football team will play next match against Bayer 04 Leverkusen and that match will be one sided match.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 11, 2024, 02:06:10 PM

A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

Nuri Şahin is still failing in the Bundesliga unfortunately. Great in the Champions League but not so much here. I'm curious about how the players can't show a similar effort in the league. Maybe because of bad handling of a tight schedule? Huh

The manager would be responsible for such thing though. One way or another Dortmund had better not fail in finishing the season in top 4 at least. It would be a big disappointment otherwise...

Currently until the end of the season there is still plenty of time for Nuri Sahin to improve his squad's position in the standings, but the obstacle is maintaining the team's performance in every match in the Bundesliga, we have seen them often have difficulty when facing teams below them. Dortmund must follow the example of Bayer and Bayern in the tight schedule that is currently being carried out they remain stable and cope very well.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2024, 08:03:22 AM

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Yeah, despite the level of performance Leverkusen pulled off last season winning the bundesliga trophy without losing a single league match, still, they don't match in comparison with Bayern Munich who have won the bundesliga back to back, whereas Leverkusen by way of their drop in form this season doesn't seem like they could pull such show because right now they're sitting 7 points beneath Bayern Munich and am convinced Munich isn't dropping points for Leverkusen to close in on them.

I can conclude that Leverkusen are only focused on the UCL, and that is not entirely good, they do it because that is a very Madridista way of thinking, I know that in the UCL the level is higher, they have already won the Bundesliga, they have to go for the UCL, but they still have a long way to go, I see Bayern at a very high level and it is difficult for them to dethrone them, however, everything is possible in this life and more so in football, I would like Xabi to react and concentrate on the Bundesliga as well, to make history as it should be.

It is a very good thing to want to aim higher every season. You can’t be on a very conservative level when your other opponents are achieving greater things. Since Bayern Leverkusen have seen their strength in the league and how far they can be able to achieve some certain things as a team, they can also aim for the champions league title. They have been playing a very impressive football in the Bundesliga and what we have seen from them so far is something that can give them the confidence for the champions league trophy also. I won’t look down on them after what they’ve achieved last season, they definitely have the potential to achieve more of that and champions league should be something they can also compete for and win as a team.

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A sad look for Dortmund it is after the last draw they got against Gladbach... Sad

Nuri Şahin is still failing in the Bundesliga unfortunately. Great in the Champions League but not so much here. I'm curious about how the players can't show a similar effort in the league. Maybe because of bad handling of a tight schedule? Huh

The manager would be responsible for such thing though. One way or another Dortmund had better not fail in finishing the season in top 4 at least. It would be a big disappointment otherwise...

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2024, 08:03:22 AM

I can conclude that Leverkusen are only focused on the UCL, and that is not entirely good, they do it because that is a very Madridista way of thinking, I know that in the UCL the level is higher, they have already won the Bundesliga, they have to go for the UCL, but they still have a long way to go, I see Bayern at a very high level and it is difficult for them to dethrone them, however, everything is possible in this life and more so in football, I would like Xabi to react and concentrate on the Bundesliga as well, to make history as it should be.

Based on what can you conclude that? Did you talk to Xabi Alonso and did he tell you that he is making the Bundesliga second priority? It's possible you talked to him of course, but considering how he freaks out when they lose a game or tie it, I am not of the impression that the Bundesliga is second priority. And tell me please how would you determine that and how would Xabi Alonso indoctrinate into his players that they should give a shit about the Bundesliga?

The Madridista way of thinking is a bullshit argument because everyone knows that there is nothing more painful to Madridista fans than seeing Barcelona celebrating the La Liga trophy. This is why El Clásico exists. It is because the competition is so important to them and if they made La Liga second priority and would play against Barcelona being 15 points behind, what is the point of being thrilled about El Clásico? If you can present some screenshots of your conversation with Alonso and how he said that Bundesliga is not important anymore, I would thank you for that.

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