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Quote from: Adbitco on January 18, 2025, 03:19:26 AM

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It was so unfortunate on BVB Dortmund’s end to have loss the game today against Frankfurt. Like you said, Frankfurt is not an easy team to win and that’s what have caused them to get another loss today. The match was played in Frankfurt’s home, which is a more advantage to them in this match. With this match, they still remain in the 10th place on the table. The closest team to them on the table still has an outstanding match with only one point for Dortmund ahead of them, so it’s likely that if Borussia Monchengladbach wins their match, Borussia Dortmund will still go down below the table. The Bundesliga has taken a big turn on Borussia Dortmund, so they may end the team in a poor state unlike they did end in the last season.

Borussia Dortmund is a team that's can't be trusted for now by betters because if their inconsistence, even if this game was played at Dortmund's home, they would have still lost in my opinion because of their downwards movements of late.

It is true, Dortmund performance continues to decline, and it would be better not to bet on the matches they play. In my opinion, if the management continues to maintain Nuri Sahin, Dortmund may continue to be in trouble, now the players are in a crisis of confidence. The opportunity to finish in the top four of the standings is still open, but they must immediately rise and reduce the points gap that has formed. The January transfer market offers an alternative solution for Dortmund, they should be able to recruit new players to gain additional strength. Since entering January, Dortmund has continued to experience defeat, with such conditions, it seems that they will also have difficulty showing a different performance when playing in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on January 17, 2025, 05:52:43 AM

But, Marmoush is still playing for Fankfurt in this match.

Honestly I don't understand why you bet on Dortmund when Frankfurt has show better performance in the present and they will play in their home. Dortmund lose against Holstein Kiel while Holstein Kiel is only playing with 10 players is really shameful.

The odds are equal, but Frankfurt has many advantage, I will bet against your pick.

No he didn't play. Because he already agreed for Manchester City and he wasn't even among the substitutes against Dortmund.

When it comes to why I preferred Dortmund win, just for fun by taking a bigger risk. Because at some point they were going to get a win and who knows maybe we would see a surprise in this tough game.

But we didn't though. Grin

With or without Marmoush, it didn't matter. Dortmund defense was horrible again and they couldn't answer with goals either.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on January 18, 2025, 03:23:05 AM

As I predicted before Frankfurt gonna win this match, but winning without Marmoush is really proving Dortmund is really that bad.

It's sad to see Frankfurt choose money over trophy, they have a chance to big competition like Bundesliga or Europa League, but since they let Marmoush to join Manchester City, it will affect their performance.

Today for sure Munich will destroy Wolfsburg, at least 3 goals.

Didn't expect that Borussia Dortmund could be destroyed so easily by Eintracht Frankfurt, which made me even more surprised when I found out that this result was a clean sheet for Frankfurt, meaning that with Serhou Guirassy in Borussia Dortmund's attack line, they were not even able to put up a little resistance.

About the Bayern Munich - Wolfsburg match, there's no certainty that Munich will get 3 points, but yes they have the biggest chance, this match could be Wolfsburg's even though they play away.

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As I predicted before Frankfurt gonna win this match, but winning without Marmoush is really proving Dortmund is really that bad.

It's sad to see Frankfurt choose money over trophy, they have a chance to big competition like Bundesliga or Europa League, but since they let Marmoush to join Manchester City, it will affect their performance.

Today for sure Munich will destroy Wolfsburg, at least 3 goals.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on January 17, 2025, 05:29:37 PM

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Borussia Dortmund seem to be discovering oil every week, the way they are going down the table of late, they will soon discover that oil they're looking for. With one win in their last 5 games they are on a poor run of form, they currently sit 10th on the Bundesliga table with 25 points and they are losing 1-0 on the night against Frankfurt. If they are to get a point or win here in the second half, they need to buckle up and push for it, although Frankfurt is not an easy team to overcome of late.

It was so unfortunate on BVB Dortmund’s end to have loss the game today against Frankfurt. Like you said, Frankfurt is not an easy team to win and that’s what have caused them to get another loss today. The match was played in Frankfurt’s home, which is a more advantage to them in this match. With this match, they still remain in the 10th place on the table. The closest team to them on the table still has an outstanding match with only one point for Dortmund ahead of them, so it’s likely that if Borussia Monchengladbach wins their match, Borussia Dortmund will still go down below the table. The Bundesliga has taken a big turn on Borussia Dortmund, so they may end the team in a poor state unlike they did end in the last season.

Borussia Dortmund is a team that's can't be trusted for now by betters because if their inconsistence, even if this game was played at Dortmund's home, they would have still lost in my opinion because of their downwards movements of late.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 18, 2025, 01:29:41 AM

And yes Borussia Dortmund suffered a defeat from Frankfurt and I had predicted it before this match took place.
Yes they did not play badly, but they could not score goals and that was one of the problems faced by Borussia Dortmund so they experienced many very disappointing results, including in this match. This result made them have to suffer 3 consecutive defeats and that made it difficult for them to return to the top competition.

Dortmund are really tested this season, this match is also their 6th away defeat, it is very unfortunate, in my opinion Sahin is not ready to handle Dortmund, Dortmund management should be able to act on the consecutive defeats they feel, Dortmund is getting closer to the bottom of the standings if they or Sahin do not make many changes in their strategy then Dortmund could be relegated this season, I hope that does not happen considering Dortmund's memory in the Bundesliga is also quite good, it is quite unfortunate if they have to accept defeat every week.

Frankfurt won and this was without their important player Marmoush and this can be said how bad Dortmund is right now when Frankfurt did not play with a very important player in their camp but Dortmund could not score goals and make a victory, and this victory also Frankfurt is getting closer to Leverkusen and also Munich and I am quite curious about them how far this season will go, especially after being left by their talented player Marmoush.

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Quote from: hahay on January 17, 2025, 06:05:39 PM

Although Dortmund lost, but Dortmund had its efforts to make goals in this match but unfortunately, Dortmund did not succeed in making goals in this match even though Dortmund had better ball possession than Eintracht Frankfurt. But at least, this kind of result has been my personal prediction too, because in the previous post I also said that whatever the odds available, I would still believe Eintracht Frankfurt would beat Dortmund, and it happened. I think there are no strange results about Eintracht Frankfurt's victory against Dortmund, because in the previous match Dortmund also humiliated by Holstein Kiel with a score of 4-2, so of course Eintracht Frankfurt will also maximize Dortmund's bad trend to beat them.

Borussia Dortmund tried everything possible to remain in the game especially in the second half but unfortunately it wasn't enough. Losing to Kiel and now Frankfurt within a week is a clear indication that a turnaround is highly needed which I'm not sure it will be possible under Sahin. Dortmund is gradually becoming a mid table team with eleven points behind Frankfurt that is third on the table.

I really don't know who to blame among the coach and the players. Is it that the coach is average or the players are not experienced. Transfers have generated so much revenue for years but unfortunately there's no any big transfer for years. What kind of management is that? Although, it has always been like this but it's getting too bad this season for Dortmund. As it stands now, relegation is more closer than championship should they continue with this form of losing streak.

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And yes Borussia Dortmund suffered a defeat from Frankfurt and I had predicted it before this match took place.
Yes they did not play badly, but they could not score goals and that was one of the problems faced by Borussia Dortmund so they experienced many very disappointing results, including in this match. This result made them have to suffer 3 consecutive defeats and that made it difficult for them to return to the top competition.

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Quote from: imamusma on January 17, 2025, 06:08:08 PM

Quote from: Woodie on January 17, 2025, 05:01:30 PM

To be honest Dortmunds result hasn't surprised me because it's a case of history repeating itself when its a weekend before CL!!

You know how the Champions league is considered like the top competitions in football, many teams tend to priorize this one and even go as far as resting it's top players and as a result most big teams usually draw or lose games around this time and for Dortmund it's not any different..expect more of these results this weekend!!

Well played Frankfurt and good that bookies had them as favourites too Cool

In my opinion, Dortmund is indeed in its worst period, they are not saving their energy to face the Champions League match. We realize that the Champions League offers more benefits and is much more prestigious than the Bundesliga, but it is illogical if they sacrifice the opportunity to finish in the top four of the standings which will give them the opportunity to play in the Champions League next season. I think it is time for Dortmund management to look for a new manager, Nuri Sahin failed to meet expectations.

This is their third consecutive defeat in the Bundesliga, overall they have only managed one win in their last 7 games, 3 draws and 3 losses. So far he has not been able to boost Dortmund performance and now they are left in 10th place, their chances in the UCL are also very small. Management must take action immediately, firing Nuri Sahin is the best step to save Dortmund from the slump.

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Did Dortmund play with a rotating lineup? And in general, it doesn't seem logical to me, since now in the Champions League the group stage (where Dortmund is doing well) and in the Bundesliga they are further and further from the places that give a ticket to the Champions League. Plus how can this be considered expected if Dotmund have 3 defeats in a row in the Bundesliga and have 6 points in the last 7 games. This is a strange situation.

It may nit sound or look logical enough how dortmunds performance has been when compared to their champions league performance actually but this makes me then think about the place of priority because somehow I get to believe that priority could be a reason they don't play as better as they do in the Champions League, you remember last season they had similar performances too, so this season it could be they are aiming at the champions league title and so they have decided to do better there and get pass the group stages upto the other stages and possibly win as much as they should or to the point they get kickoit or they eventually win the trophy

Even in the Bundesliga alone Dortmund has difficulty winning the title, how can they think of targeting the UCL trophy when the UCL competition is tighter than the Bundesliga, indeed Dortmund's performance in the UCL can be said to be better because they are in the top 10 but that does not mean they only focus on the UCL and ignore the Bundesliga because if they do that maybe next season they will not be able to play in the UCL and to be able to win the UCL trophy at least they must be able to beat Liverpool, Barcelona and Arsenal who currently look very strong in the UCL.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on January 16, 2025, 08:09:48 PM

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Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

Before Leverkusen became what they are now Dortmund were the closest rivals to Bayern Munich and they were the only team before that who were even a little bit better than Bayern Munich. But this season and the season before that Dortmund lost their ability to compete and now they are in the top 10 of the table. With the defeat they got in the last game it seems difficult for Dortmund to catch up to the top three this season and automatically if they fail they will not play in the Champions League next season.

There will be two teams competing in the German league this season but I don't think the rest will be able to compete. Bayern Munich is at the top of the points table, Leverkusen is at the second position of the points table and these two teams have close points but the rest of the teams have less points than these two teams. Bayern Munich and Leverkusen perform well regularly but we don't see similar performances from other teams in the league. Now, if Bayern Munich performs better in the upcoming matches, on the contrary, if Leverkusen does not give up, it will be seen that these two teams are fighting until the last match of the season. There is only four points difference between the number one team in the points table and the number two team in the points table and I don't think that the difference of these four points is a big difference. Since both teams are performing well, it is not possible to say for sure which team will win the title at least at the moment.

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Quote from: ThemePen on January 16, 2025, 09:15:36 PM

That is great point about Dortmund past rivalry with Bayern Munich. Dortmund used to be very strong team and their games against Bayern Munich were always exciting. But now Dortmund is not playing well and is having trouble keeping up with top teams. Their loss in last game makes it even harder for them to catch up. If they do not make it to top three they can not play in Champions League next season which would be big disappointment. It will be interesting to see how Dortmund tries to fix their problems and become strong team again.

The match between the two has always been a strong rivalry before because only Dortmund was a more equal opponent for Bayern Munich in the last two seasons. But since Xabi Alonso made a big change for Leverkusen everything started to change where Dortmund lost the opportunity to compete and even started to struggle to find a position in the top three standings. Dortmund's problem is still the same because they sold some potential players to get profit from the sales so they were unable to keep up with the competition with other teams. Currently their position is far from the Champions League zone and it might be difficult to reach that position if no changes are made in the future.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 17, 2025, 05:19:31 PM

Did Dortmund play with a rotating lineup? And in general, it doesn't seem logical to me, since now in the Champions League the group stage (where Dortmund is doing well) and in the Bundesliga they are further and further from the places that give a ticket to the Champions League. Plus how can this be considered expected if Dotmund have 3 defeats in a row in the Bundesliga and have 6 points in the last 7 games. This is a strange situation.

It may nit sound or look logical enough how dortmunds performance has been when compared to their champions league performance actually but this makes me then think about the place of priority because somehow I get to believe that priority could be a reason they don't play as better as they do in the Champions League, you remember last season they had similar performances too, so this season it could be they are aiming at the champions league title and so they have decided to do better there and get pass the group stages upto the other stages and possibly win as much as they should or to the point they get kickoit or they eventually win the trophy

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Quote from: Mate2237 on January 16, 2025, 03:38:09 AM

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With this win bayern munich is more comfortable on the top of the table with six points and even with superior goal advantage so the pressure will be more on Leverkusen to catch up on bayern which is becoming more difficult because of the kind of results that they are putting up of late

Yes, they celebrated with the big win. Although Harry Kane scored a goal because of a penalty kick, but this added to the number of his scores and remained the top scorer in the Bundesliga with 16 goals, only 1 goal away from Omar Marmoush, Frankfurt with 15 goals. And what is very interesting here is that Bayern did not give Hoffenheim any gaps to attack.

Quote from: imamusma on January 17, 2025, 06:08:08 PM

In my opinion, Dortmund is indeed in its worst period, they are not saving their energy to face the Champions League match. We realize that the Champions League offers more benefits and is much more prestigious than the Bundesliga,

I agree with some people here that the defeat is not so surprising considering Dortmund's performance so far in the Bundesliga. And on the other hand, Frankfurt has indeed been that optimal at least in the last 3 matches.

Although on the other hand, they have to leave their mainstay striker Marmoush who is rumored to move to Man City. However, in this match against Dortmund without him, they still managed to win 2-0, with goals from Ekitike and Hojlund.

Source: Eintracht Frankfurt beat Borussia Dortmund

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Quote from: Woodie on January 17, 2025, 05:01:30 PM

To be honest Dortmunds result hasn't surprised me because it's a case of history repeating itself when its a weekend before CL!!

You know how the Champions league is considered like the top competitions in football, many teams tend to priorize this one and even go as far as resting it's top players and as a result most big teams usually draw or lose games around this time and for Dortmund it's not any different..expect more of these results this weekend!!

Well played Frankfurt and good that bookies had them as favourites too Cool

In my opinion, Dortmund is indeed in its worst period, they are not saving their energy to face the Champions League match. We realize that the Champions League offers more benefits and is much more prestigious than the Bundesliga, but it is illogical if they sacrifice the opportunity to finish in the top four of the standings which will give them the opportunity to play in the Champions League next season. I think it is time for Dortmund management to look for a new manager, Nuri Sahin failed to meet expectations.

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Although Dortmund lost, but Dortmund had its efforts to make goals in this match but unfortunately, Dortmund did not succeed in making goals in this match even though Dortmund had better ball possession than Eintracht Frankfurt. But at least, this kind of result has been my personal prediction too, because in the previous post I also said that whatever the odds available, I would still believe Eintracht Frankfurt would beat Dortmund, and it happened. I think there are no strange results about Eintracht Frankfurt's victory against Dortmund, because in the previous match Dortmund also humiliated by Holstein Kiel with a score of 4-2, so of course Eintracht Frankfurt will also maximize Dortmund's bad trend to beat them.

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Quote from: Adbitco on January 17, 2025, 03:28:54 PM

Borussia Dortmund seem to be discovering oil every week, the way they are going down the table of late, they will soon discover that oil they're looking for. With one win in their last 5 games they are on a poor run of form, they currently sit 10th on the Bundesliga table with 25 points and they are losing 1-0 on the night against Frankfurt. If they are to get a point or win here in the second half, they need to buckle up and push for it, although Frankfurt is not an easy team to overcome of late.

I never thought they would be dropping so fast and we shouldn't see them as one of the best teams in the Bundesliga. Is like they need to seek the face of relegation and who knows maybe they might even be relegated by the end of the season because as it is they can't even beat team in the top five, as it is Dortmund are currently doing a giveaway every week they give out three points to any team they come against and I wonder how they will manage when it's time to play the Champions League, they might as well do the same thing.
This is really embarrassing to see one of the best team back then who normally give Bayern Munich a big headache for the title even if they don't win it.
Frankfurt are bigger than Dortmund that's why you see them (Dortmund) struggle to even get a single goal in that encounter and I believe they have killed so many tickets this night talking about Dortmund. Is still a shock to me that this is the same Dortmund who played the champions league final against Madrid, they're not trying at all and I wonder where their best players are currently thisnone they're losing any how.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on January 17, 2025, 04:59:34 PM

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Frankfurt won 2-0 against Dortmund and the bad form of Dortmund continues. Like i said before i think they will lose points and they lost them all in this match and after this round they can end up on 11th place. They need a new coach asap,current one is just lost and cannot do anything. They have a good team but just cant win any games.

At this point, I don’t think Dortmund will change anytime soon, their performance is getting worse eveyday even against teams they are supposed to defeats, and they keep dropping points and their position keep dropping and they keep losing hope of qualifying to the Champions League against next season.

Dortmund has lost three Bundesliga matches in a row, they were having potential to challenge for top four but they have dropped to the tenth position after these three matches, and I have concluded that they cannot contest of the title race anymore; the title race is now between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich.

Actually Dortmund's performance declining is as a result of the inconsistency in the players. They become impressive today and another day less impressive which is not the kind of players a team need to compete further in top leagues. Last season we saw what Dortmund was able to pull off in the UCL. But am not seeing the same Dortmund anymore. This time they are just there to make some teams lose points i dont think they are really in for the title.

Speaking about their fate at the end of this season, if they may qualify for the UCL next season or not. Yeah, i think they can be able to qualify much effort is put on. Sometimes we get to see some teams underperforming and later on they pick up before the end of the season.

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Another victory for Eintracht, they are not stopping. It's their 3rd win in a row and they're currently only 2 points behind the 2nd Leverkusen, but only until tomorrow when I hope Leverkusen will earn another 3 points on Monchengladbach.
On the other hand, Dortmund's bad luck continues. It was their 3rd straight loss in the league and it's getting clearer that the top 4 might have just got beyond their reach. Luckily they still have Champions League to play with decent chances of getting through to the next round. And looks like they're looking to strengthen their attack with attempts of getting Marcus Rashford on loan from Man United:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rashford-future-borussia-dortmund-tenhag-34498137

Fixtures + odds for tomorrow/Sunday games:

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Quote from: Adbitco on January 17, 2025, 03:28:54 PM

Borussia Dortmund seem to be discovering oil every week, the way they are going down the table of late, they will soon discover that oil they're looking for. With one win in their last 5 games they are on a poor run of form, they currently sit 10th on the Bundesliga table with 25 points and they are losing 1-0 on the night against Frankfurt. If they are to get a point or win here in the second half, they need to buckle up and push for it, although Frankfurt is not an easy team to overcome of late.

It was so unfortunate on BVB Dortmund’s end to have loss the game today against Frankfurt. Like you said, Frankfurt is not an easy team to win and that’s what have caused them to get another loss today. The match was played in Frankfurt’s home, which is a more advantage to them in this match. With this match, they still remain in the 10th place on the table. The closest team to them on the table still has an outstanding match with only one point for Dortmund ahead of them, so it’s likely that if Borussia Monchengladbach wins their match, Borussia Dortmund will still go down below the table. The Bundesliga has taken a big turn on Borussia Dortmund, so they may end the team in a poor state unlike they did end in the last season.

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