Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 34.

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Quote from: mv1986 on January 16, 2025, 06:43:16 PM

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 16, 2025, 05:22:50 PM

Eintracht Frankfurt has lost their best player. Manchester City have signed Omar Marmoush and he will sign a 5-year contract. The transfer fee hasn't been announced yet but Eintracht Frankfurt will make a lot of money from this transfer.
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I wasn't even aware of that. Is this officially confirmed yet? I can't see anything on the Bundesliga website:
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/official-bundesliga-transfer-centre-january-winter-2025-30137

but maybe they're not the fastest in terms of making updates.

Anyhow, he's still playing tomorrow against Dortmund and it should be an interesting one. Eintracht is a slight favourite for obvious reasons - they have been very effective recently, while Dortmund - quite the opposite.

Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

Seriously. But to me, with the way they are playing right now, their method of play is still not bad, and I think they can still fight for the top 4 in the standings with this current performance. I think Dortmund needs to work on their performance and do more because their consistency is not good enough anymore, and this will affect them in the long run. Dortmund is one of the top clubs competing in the Bundesliga, but now they are leaving it to other clubs; they can’t even maintain the top 4 spot for a long time anymore, which is bad for them.

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Previously I was disappointed by Dortmund because they lost to Holstein Kiel and now Dortmund will face Frankfurt which is team with better stability and consistency than Dortmund, I doubt whether Dortmund will be able to play well or not because what is certain is that Dortmund has very bad performance right now.
If it continues like this, Dortmund could make another coaching change by firing Nuri Sahin and there is fairly popular name, Ten Hag, as coach who has the opportunity to replace Nuri Sahin later, but this is still just rumor and cannot be really believed.

Dortmund's performance is very uncertain this season because sometimes Dortmund can win with a fairly strong team like what happened at Wolfsburg's home but in the next matches Dortmund actually lost to a team in the relegation zone like what Dortmund experienced at Holstein Kiel's home. So for the next match at Frankfurt's home, it is actually still quite difficult to make a prediction because Dortmund could win and instead the home team would lose because Frankfurt's condition itself is also not so certain this season which even still experienced a defeat at home when hosting Mainz.

Dortmund's game with Frankfurt should be gambled with caution. If Dortmund could not win their last game which happened to be the weakest in the Bundles league, a club who has only 8 points before they played Dortmund, then Frankfurt will show them some messy outings.

Frankfurt might be having their own inconsistency but I still believe theirs is far better than Dortmund. Mainz are not as weak as Holstein Kiel's. Mainz has all it takes to compete for the top 5 position so we if they defeated Frankfurt it is more understandable than Holstein kie's defeating Dortmund

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Other teams are getting stronger, but Dortmund is getting left behind, that's the problem Dortmund is experiencing.
A few seasons ago Dortmund would always be a competitor to Munich for the Bundesliga trophy. But now they are far from the expectation for that. If they were in 5th or 6th position in the standings, maybe we could still say that the team is not weak. But Dortmund is currently in 10th position in the standings. Dortmund has a lot to deal with.

The latest season that Dortmund was still quite strong, it was in the season 2022-2023. At that time, Dortmund still had Jude Bellingham and Raphaël Guerreiro. Now, these players have moved to new clubs. So, Dortmund still can't get proper players to change them. It is quite difficult for Dortmund to maintain their strength because this team is very often to sell their mainstay players. People may expect them to compete for the trophy, but in their side they may not target for trophy. They probably target to raise the values of their players and will sell them at high prices. Cheesy

I think it is no only about the quality of the squad, it is also about the quality of the coach. I assume the current coach still not the same level as the previous coaches. They need to find out quality coaches such as Klopp and Tuchel anymore. I don't say Sahin is a bad coach, but he may be not a proper coach for a big team like Dortmund for now. He has a lack of experience to manage a football team.

That's what Dortmund often do and it becomes a problem for themselves when they sell their mainstay players but don't have the right replacement for them to improve the quality of their players.
Some coaches may not like how Dortmund does business with their players. If Dortmund still keeps doing that, maybe it's true, they don't plan for trophy competition. But all fans certainly hope they have a better performance, not like now.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on January 16, 2025, 09:56:35 PM

Previously I was disappointed by Dortmund because they lost to Holstein Kiel and now Dortmund will face Frankfurt which is team with better stability and consistency than Dortmund, I doubt whether Dortmund will be able to play well or not because what is certain is that Dortmund has very bad performance right now.
If it continues like this, Dortmund could make another coaching change by firing Nuri Sahin and there is fairly popular name, Ten Hag, as coach who has the opportunity to replace Nuri Sahin later, but this is still just rumor and cannot be really believed.

Dortmund's performance is very uncertain this season because sometimes Dortmund can win with a fairly strong team like what happened at Wolfsburg's home but in the next matches Dortmund actually lost to a team in the relegation zone like what Dortmund experienced at Holstein Kiel's home. So for the next match at Frankfurt's home, it is actually still quite difficult to make a prediction because Dortmund could win and instead the home team would lose because Frankfurt's condition itself is also not so certain this season which even still experienced a defeat at home when hosting Mainz.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 17, 2025, 04:34:19 AM

Frankfurt has just sold Omar Marmoush to Manchester City. The transfer fee is said to be around 80 million euros in total. It sounds really insane when we think Frankfurt got him for free in 2023. The profit is huge. Grin

However they have lost the most important player in the squad at the same time. Because Frankfurt scored 40 goals in the league and Marmoush had 24 goal contribution... That's crazy right?

Dortmund are really unreliable normally but maybe they can somehow benefit from the change at Frankfurt. They really need a win so bad as they have dropped down to the 10th position. Sad

I will take the risk @2.65.

But, Marmoush is still playing for Fankfurt in this match.

Honestly I don't understand why you bet on Dortmund when Frankfurt has show better performance in the present and they will play in their home. Dortmund lose against Holstein Kiel while Holstein Kiel is only playing with 10 players is really shameful.

The odds are equal, but Frankfurt has many advantage, I will bet against your pick.

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Dortmund's defeat this time is really embarrassing how can they as a top club be defeated by a club that can be said to be a weak club this season even though Holstein Kiel is in the relegation zone and has only won 2 times so far and 3 when beating Dortmund, the defeat when playing against Leverkusen I can understand but losing against a promoted club is unacceptable I also began to doubt Dortmund's performance this season it is possible that Dortmund will not be able to finish in the UCL zone because it has experienced a fairly sharp decline.

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

I think this season has been the worst season for Dortmund compared to the last few seasons where they are usually a very strong club in the Bundesliga and not far behind Bayern Munich but this season we can see the decline in Dortmund, I think should they are starting to think about the future of their club from now on and not just thinking about business by selling talented players, I think this is also the effect of prioritizing business over the reputation of the club.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 17, 2025, 04:14:41 AM

It will be a difficult away game for Dortmund, but when we look at their past games, Dortmund has easily defeated Frankfurt both at home and away.
I think tonight will be different. The odds given to Frankfurt are very attractive. I am thinking of trying for a goal-scoring Frankfurt win.
If Frankfurt wins, things will continue to go bad for Nuri Şahin. I am a little sad about this situation. I want young managers like Nuri to be successful.

At that time, Dortmund's record and performance were good and strong, due to which they were able to defeat every team. Both his performance and record have weakened at this time. Frankfurt's record is better and stronger than Dortmund's which makes Frankfurt easily beat Dortmund but we should not consider Dortmund as weak as they can play well and beat Frankfurt to take control of the match. As far as we can see, Frankfurt will win this match or Dortmund will work hard to draw the match. There is no doubt that Dortmund will draw the match That is the latter problem, they also have to maintain the strength of their team and managers can see the successful streak in the next matches if they work hard to get their teams to perform well.

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Quote from: len01 on January 16, 2025, 11:01:31 PM

Frankfurt vs Dortmund (Draw)

If we look at the match, we must immediately think about Frankfurt's victory. But for me it won't be that easy.
From the results of recent performances, I admit that Frankfurt has gotten better results and has a great chance of playing at home. But based on previous meetings, Dortmund has always been able to beat or even draw against Frankfurt.
So in that match I admit that Frankfurt is a strong team and also will not underestimate Dortmund and decide to bet on a draw.

Frankfurt has just sold Omar Marmoush to Manchester City. The transfer fee is said to be around 80 million euros in total. It sounds really insane when we think Frankfurt got him for free in 2023. The profit is huge. Grin

However they have lost the most important player in the squad at the same time. Because Frankfurt scored 40 goals in the league and Marmoush had 24 goal contribution... That's crazy right?

Dortmund are really unreliable normally but maybe they can somehow benefit from the change at Frankfurt. They really need a win so bad as they have dropped down to the 10th position. Sad

I will take the risk @2.65.

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It will be a difficult away game for Dortmund, but when we look at their past games, Dortmund has easily defeated Frankfurt both at home and away.
I think tonight will be different. The odds given to Frankfurt are very attractive. I am thinking of trying for a goal-scoring Frankfurt win.
If Frankfurt wins, things will continue to go bad for Nuri Şahin. I am a little sad about this situation. I want young managers like Nuri to be successful.

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Quote from: mv1986 on January 16, 2025, 06:43:16 PM

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Eintracht Frankfurt has lost their best player. Manchester City have signed Omar Marmoush and he will sign a 5-year contract. The transfer fee hasn't been announced yet but Eintracht Frankfurt will make a lot of money from this transfer.
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I wasn't even aware of that. Is this officially confirmed yet? I can't see anything on the Bundesliga website:
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/official-bundesliga-transfer-centre-january-winter-2025-30137

but maybe they're not the fastest in terms of making updates.

Anyhow, he's still playing tomorrow against Dortmund and it should be an interesting one. Eintracht is a slight favourite for obvious reasons - they have been very effective recently, while Dortmund - quite the opposite.

Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

It's a pity for Dortmund, no one would have thought it could slip so low judging by its former standing. I guess Nuri Sahin doesn't understand the style of the club of selling better players to buy a cheap one and still utilise the cheap one for a good course. This has always been the way of the club and has been a win-win for it even if they do not win trophies often, they often manage to be a good runner-up. Cheesy

But the table is turning against it now and it has gotten worse that a very low club Holstein Kiel won it and even scored as many as 4 goals against it on Tuesday.

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Quote from: len01 on January 16, 2025, 11:01:31 PM

Frankfurt vs Dortmund (Draw)

If we look at the match, we must immediately think about Frankfurt's victory. But for me it won't be that easy.
From the results of recent performances, I admit that Frankfurt has gotten better results and has a great chance of playing at home. But based on previous meetings, Dortmund has always been able to beat or even draw against Frankfurt.
So in that match I admit that Frankfurt is a strong team and also will not underestimate Dortmund and decide to bet on a draw.

Eintracht Frankfurt are one of the best home teams in the league and in the games they play they are very effective in attack. They are especially effective on the counter attacks, which Borussia Dortmund can't defend. If we look at Eintracht Frankfurt's last five league games, they have two wins, two losses and a draw. Borussia Dortmund, on the other hand, have one win, two draws and two defeats in their last five league matches. In fact, both teams have been inconsistent.

With his future in the team in jeopardy, I think Nuri Sahin will prepare for this match with a more conservative defensive plan. However, it still seems difficult for Borussia Dortmund to stop the Eintracht Frankfurt attack. Borussia Dortmund, who have had big problems on the road, are unlikely to get any points from this match.

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Dortmund's performance is deteriorating day by day. A few seasons ago, we knew Dortmund as one of the strongest teams in the Bundesliga. Dortmund's performance was a bit erratic last season. And Dortmund's performance this season is very weak. What is the reason for this team's deterioration?

Dortmund is in the tenth place in the points table. Out of 17 matches, Dortmund has won only 7 matches. Dortmund has lost points in 10 matches. In 17 matches, Dortmund's players have been able to score 32 goals. So I will not say that Dortmund's attack is weak. But Dortmund has conceded 29 goals in 17 matches. Dortmund's defense is a bit weak. And above all, Dortmund's performance is not stable. I will say that the coach should change Dortmund's match strategy. If the match strategy does not improve, no improvement in Dortmund's situation can be expected.

Qualifying for the Champions League is not possible for Dortmund at the moment, but if they can consistently perform well, they have a chance to finish in the top four of the table.

They are declining because of what they did in the past by focusing more on business. Indeed, they are a team that has good ability to produce new stars, but that also does not guarantee that they will be able to do it every season, so that is their obstacle. Actually, I am not too surprised by this, because with their habit of always selling their best players, sooner or later they will definitely experience a difficult situation or their performance will decline. Teams that always bring in the best players can still decline, let alone those who sell their best players.

I agree with you. In the last few years we have seen Dortmund only do business. They have considered football as a means of making money. They have been able to produce some talented players. And they have sold these players for a high price.

If players like Bellingham and Haaland were in Dortmund's squad, Dortmund would undoubtedly have been able to fight for the Bundesliga title. But Dortmund's goal was to make money by selling talented young players. The club has been able to make money, but we can see a serious decline in their overall performance. And I don't think Dortmund will be able to finish in the top four this season.

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Frankfurt vs Dortmund (Draw)

If we look at the match, we must immediately think about Frankfurt's victory. But for me it won't be that easy.
From the results of recent performances, I admit that Frankfurt has gotten better results and has a great chance of playing at home. But based on previous meetings, Dortmund has always been able to beat or even draw against Frankfurt.
So in that match I admit that Frankfurt is a strong team and also will not underestimate Dortmund and decide to bet on a draw.

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Quote from: mv1986 on January 16, 2025, 06:43:16 PM

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Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

Previously I was disappointed by Dortmund because they lost to Holstein Kiel and now Dortmund will face Frankfurt which is team with better stability and consistency than Dortmund, I doubt whether Dortmund will be able to play well or not because what is certain is that Dortmund has very bad performance right now.
If it continues like this, Dortmund could make another coaching change by firing Nuri Sahin and there is fairly popular name, Ten Hag, as coach who has the opportunity to replace Nuri Sahin later, but this is still just rumor and cannot be really believed.

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Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

Before Leverkusen became what they are now Dortmund were the closest rivals to Bayern Munich and they were the only team before that who were even a little bit better than Bayern Munich. But this season and the season before that Dortmund lost their ability to compete and now they are in the top 10 of the table. With the defeat they got in the last game it seems difficult for Dortmund to catch up to the top three this season and automatically if they fail they will not play in the Champions League next season.

This club is now quite sad even though in the past in the Bundesliga Dortmund had the strength to compete not only that this club produced many star players but that is what caused the decline in the strength of this team because Dortmund if you look at them only focus on player investment, if there is a player who shines then there is an offer they will sell it that is why Dortmund is not good enough to compete at the top right now because they focus on talented players and very few are experienced and in my opinion that is a bad thing done by the Dortmund owner who only thinks about sales not trophies because every time the transfer market opens they must have sales that is the system developed by Dortmund.

Currently Dortmund is in 10th place and the lag from the main ranking is too far, moreover Dortmund's performance has not been so good they can only play at home and away games often end in defeat, in my opinion after yesterday's embarrassing defeat from the lower team sometimes Dortmund management will reconsider Sahin to become their coach, if you look at last season's statistics this is a decline and hope Dortmund management is sensitive to this to give the best for this yellow team.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on January 16, 2025, 08:09:48 PM

Before Leverkusen became what they are now Dortmund were the closest rivals to Bayern Munich and they were the only team before that who were even a little bit better than Bayern Munich. But this season and the season before that Dortmund lost their ability to compete and now they are in the top 10 of the table. With the defeat they got in the last game it seems difficult for Dortmund to catch up to the top three this season and automatically if they fail they will not play in the Champions League next season.

That is great point about Dortmund past rivalry with Bayern Munich. Dortmund used to be very strong team and their games against Bayern Munich were always exciting. But now Dortmund is not playing well and is having trouble keeping up with top teams. Their loss in last game makes it even harder for them to catch up. If they do not make it to top three they can not play in Champions League next season which would be big disappointment. It will be interesting to see how Dortmund tries to fix their problems and become strong team again.

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Quote from: mv1986 on January 16, 2025, 06:43:16 PM

Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

Before Leverkusen became what they are now Dortmund were the closest rivals to Bayern Munich and they were the only team before that who were even a little bit better than Bayern Munich. But this season and the season before that Dortmund lost their ability to compete and now they are in the top 10 of the table. With the defeat they got in the last game it seems difficult for Dortmund to catch up to the top three this season and automatically if they fail they will not play in the Champions League next season.

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In my opinion, Dortmund are not very weak, the problem is that the other teams that were weak last season are strong this season and that is causing Dortmund to not be in the top 4, about the last game in which Dortmund lost, I think that in the last games Dortmund have had problems in defense, but they also have a good attack, so in my opinion this is not a big problem, the coach can correct what is wrong in defense.

What you say makes sense because Dortmund pattern of playing is not that bad and I think they can stand a chance to contest for the top four of the table, there is still time for them to be able to achieve that. I have seen their pattern of play and it is just like how they did the last season, so for them not to be in the top four of the table, it means they now have teams that play better than them and won’t give them the chance to prevail against them this season. We shall see how they are able to cope throughout this season, they need to really put in their best in the Bundesliga or they’ll be forgotten so soon and won’t be seen as a competent team for the league title in the future of Bundesliga.

Dortmund clearly have to make extra efforts to reach the top four of the standings at the end of the season, the last defeat to Holstein Kiel has dropped their position to 10th place. Of course, finishing in the Champions League zone is not easy to achieve, because the points gap is now widening. Nuri Sahin squad also has to face Eintracht Frankfurt in the next match, and in my opinion Dortmund chances of winning are very low.

If the expected consistency is still difficult to achieve, then Dortmund management might choose to look for a new manager and fire Nuri Sahin. It's a shame Dortmund managed to reach the Champions League final last season, but failed to maintain their performance this season. Now Leverkusen has replaced them in the trophy competition with Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 16, 2025, 05:35:26 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on January 16, 2025, 05:22:50 PM

Eintracht Frankfurt has lost their best player. Manchester City have signed Omar Marmoush and he will sign a 5-year contract. The transfer fee hasn't been announced yet but Eintracht Frankfurt will make a lot of money from this transfer.
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I wasn't even aware of that. Is this officially confirmed yet? I can't see anything on the Bundesliga website:
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/official-bundesliga-transfer-centre-january-winter-2025-30137

but maybe they're not the fastest in terms of making updates.

Anyhow, he's still playing tomorrow against Dortmund and it should be an interesting one. Eintracht is a slight favourite for obvious reasons - they have been very effective recently, while Dortmund - quite the opposite.

Agreed. Dortmund is sucking so hard, wow... They were the competitor number one for so long in the Bundesliga for Bayern, then Leverkusen took over. But this is unbelievable. How bad Dortmund has become, it is pretty insane that they are now in the lower half of the table. I still can't understand how they made the decision to make Sahin the head coach. Crazy. This guy has zero aura.

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Quote from: Odohu on January 16, 2025, 03:27:21 PM

Professional lovers is such a big name for Borussia Dortmund even though they have been losing out on trophies for several seasons now. Honestly, I'm not too impressed with the team because they have what it takes to win their domestic league and even the UEFA champions league but somehow they always lose even at the finals. I don't know if this can be attributed to a psychological problem like finishing mentality but whatever it is, the management have to find a way to fix that because Dortmund is supposed to be the second best team in the league but right now I don't even know if they are the third best team.

It would have been better you aren't expecting them to win than champions league than thinking they would this season, they are no prospect for the Champions league, although they may look like they have got want it take but I can still say they have got a while lot of work to do as they don't seem to have the strong mentality for that already, they only probably want to settle for the average spot currently and that's what their performances has been really showing all this while.

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