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Omar Marmoush continues to shine in the Bundesliga this season. Look at his rise in the league in the recent years by the way.



https://www.flashscore.com/player/marmoush-omar/44pYRYIC/

Quite impressive, right?  Smiley  Only at the age of 25, it is really good for him to perform in such an amazing way. I feel like his future will be similar to Serhou Guirassy. He can also be signed by a bigger team in the near future. Probably next summer... I wouldn't be surprised if Dortmund goes after him too in case of selling Guirassy to another team by making profit. Their philosophy is this. They make really good amount of money in player sales.
So far he has been quite consistent in helping frankfurt win by scoring goals, in my opinion, he has a bright future especially if he can maintain his consistent performance and ability to score goals later, his ability to play many positions of course very beneficial for frankfurt, especially, he is not only reliable in scoring goals but his role as an assist giver also cannot be doubted at this time,  with the age of 25 of course he have a lot of time and opportunity to continue to show the potential that he has at the momment, but I think, with his extraordinary ability, of course it is very likely that he will not last long in frankfurt later, even I am quite sure if he will be a target tranfers from the big teams in january transfer, to be honest, I see the potential that marmoush has is much better than that of guirassy so he should be able to choose a better club than dortmund and maybe playing in the premier league could be the right choice for him.

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Dortmund will choose one competition from the Bundesliga and UCL each season. The players have not been able to maximize their strengths in 2 competitions simultaneously. Last season they focused on the UCL and missed the opportunity in the Bundesliga because Leverkusen and Bayern Munich competed for the championship title. Moreover, now they are in 7th position in the standings, but Dortmund played better in the Champions League. The point is Dortmund is not chasing the Bundesliga trophy, the important thing is to secure a ticket to the UCL next season is considered enough.

If currently, Dortmund can focus more on the Champions League, maybe they will be quite successful now. but they also have to secure their position in the Bundesliga. last season Dortmund was left behind by a fairly large point difference from Leverkusen and Munich. and this season, if they no longer focus on the Bundesliga, they must focus on the Champions League. maybe that can be accepted by fans as to why their performance in the Bundesliga is not good enough. now they are 10 points behind Munich, but they still have a big chance to secure 1 position in the Champions League.

The Champions League is indeed quite tiring, plus the tight match schedule. The reason is, they not only have to face the UCL, but also the Bundesliga and the DFB Cup. Dortmund is too focused on the Champions League compared to the Bundesliga and DFB. But fortunately what they sacrificed was not in vain, they performed quite well in the UCL with 3 wins and 1 loss from a total of 4 matches so far, so Dortmund is in a fairly safe position for now.

And Dortmund's average defeat when playing in the Bundesliga, the defeat they experienced after playing in the UCL the previous day. And for more details you can see the following picture. :



We look at it from the first match of the UCL league to the fourth match. In the first match against Club Brugge Dortmund, they won with a fairly large score of 4-2, but after that they failed when facing VFB and lost with a score of 5-1. The 2nd match when facing iceltic in ucl, dormund won again with an extraordinary score of 7-1, but then they lost when facing union berlin in the bundesliga with a narrow score of 2-1. The 3rd match in UCL they faced real madrid and maybe this was a bad week for dortmund, because besides they had to lose 5-2 to real madird, they also experienced a series of fatigue in the bundesliga by Augsburg with a score of 2-1 and the VFB cup second round dortmund also lost narrowly to wolpsburg with a score of 1-0. Finally in the 4th match of UCL, dortmund won again 1-0 over Sturm, but lost again in the bundesliga Mains 05 with a score of 3-1. And looking at dortmund's matches from the three championships they participated in, we can conclude that dortmund is too focused on the champions league. UCL is too tiring for dortmund so they perform less well in other matches.
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Omar Marmoush continues to shine in the Bundesliga this season. Look at his rise in the league in the recent years by the way.



https://www.flashscore.com/player/marmoush-omar/44pYRYIC/

Quite impressive, right?  Smiley  Only at the age of 25, it is really good for him to perform in such an amazing way. I feel like his future will be similar to Serhou Guirassy. He can also be signed by a bigger team in the near future. Probably next summer... I wouldn't be surprised if Dortmund goes after him too in case of selling Guirassy to another team by making profit. Their philosophy is this. They make really good amount of money in player sales.
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Support from fans alone is not enough without being equipped with classy players, Perhaps the situation Dortmund is currently experiencing is the result of the club's policy of only seeking profit from player sales without thinking about the club's future success. Even though they are currently performing well in the UCL, they cannot maintain this momentum in the Bundesliga. This season they are finding it increasingly difficult to compete with Bayern Munich who have performed very consistently with Kompany, targeting a top-four finish may be more realistic than competing in the title race.
Dortmund will also be quite happy if they are only able to be in the top four zone at the end of this season because in previous seasons Dortmund were not so disappointed when they were unable to become champions in the Bundesliga. But their own fans also really want to see Dortmund become a champion team again in the Bundesliga even with only the players they have. And for this season it seems that Dortmund must be able to change their tactics so that they are not easily defeated by every opponent in the Bundesliga this season.
Dortmund will not force their manager to gets Bundesliga trophy this because the owner know to compete with Bayern Munich for race title it's quite hard and Dortmund have to spend a lot of money to build the squad which this is hard for them because basically Dortmund is not a rich team and i think before Dortmund owner has decide to hire Nuri Sahin as the manager they had realize that the title is not their main priority so that's why when Dortmund performance is not stable Nuri Sahin seems didn't gets any pressure even he was very confident that Dortmund will be able to bounce back but regarding Dortmund final position at the end of Bundesliga i think they very possible to reach at top 4 or Champion league spots
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Dortmund performance this season has been disappointing due to changes in coaching staff and lack of strong player signings. They have sold top players for money and now they are paying price. Behind these struggles Dortmund remains respected team with loyal German fans. Their surprise loss to Mainz was partly due to Emre Can early red card. If Dortmund want to improve so they need to adjust to new coach style and sign better players and keep their best players and avoid red cards. With these changes and stability, Dortmund can regain their competitive edge and do better.
Support from fans alone is not enough without being equipped with classy players, Perhaps the situation Dortmund is currently experiencing is the result of the club's policy of only seeking profit from player sales without thinking about the club's future success. Even though they are currently performing well in the UCL, they cannot maintain this momentum in the Bundesliga. This season they are finding it increasingly difficult to compete with Bayern Munich who have performed very consistently with Kompany, targeting a top-four finish may be more realistic than competing in the title race.
Borussia Dortmund has already lost the championship. They should aim for the top three or four places in the German league. I do not see a team that can pass Bayern Munich for the championship right now. Bayer Leverkusen also looks weaker compared to last year. This year, Bayern Munich seems to be leading the championship race on its own. The problems Borussia Dortmund has been experiencing recently need to be investigated thoroughly. I think the source of this is the change in technical director. Although I like Nuri Şahin very much, maybe he acted too early to take over Borussia Dortmund.
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I have been thinking about Dortmund's performance this season I don't think they can even make a good position this season, Dortmund is having a bad performance this season and sometimes they perform like a team that is capable of defeating any opponents, in their last match they received a red card and that makes them lose the game, I was thinking they are going well win the last match they play but after Received red card I started having feelings that they will lose the game and that is what happens.

Dortmund is in 7th position this season and if we look at the teams that are ahead of Dortmund they are all strong teams that are trying their best to make sure they qualify for the Champions League next season, Dortmund current situation is bad and the team needs to find the solution to it if not they will end up not qualify for Champion League next season and that will be a disgrace for a big team like Dortmund.

Mainz defeated Dortmund to win their first Bundesliga home game. Dortmund was expected to play defensively after one player was sent out. Even though there was no red card in the match, I doubt Dortmund to win. Dortmund cannot manage even a defensive game and draw, because we used to watch other teams win games even when their players were sent off.

Dortmund has lost four games in the Bundesliga this season and managed to draw one, so it will be embarrassing if a major team like them finishes the season without reaching the top four and other teams have only lost one game this season. Dortmund still has a chance to finish in the top four if we consider the point different, but their present performance is seriously weak, they already lost four games and are in seventh place, one point away from the top four. Their next league meeting is against Bayern Munich, who are top of the league table, and Freiburg, who are in fifth place, so I'm not sure whether they can get any points.
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Support from fans alone is not enough without being equipped with classy players, Perhaps the situation Dortmund is currently experiencing is the result of the club's policy of only seeking profit from player sales without thinking about the club's future success. Even though they are currently performing well in the UCL, they cannot maintain this momentum in the Bundesliga. This season they are finding it increasingly difficult to compete with Bayern Munich who have performed very consistently with Kompany, targeting a top-four finish may be more realistic than competing in the title race.
Dortmund will also be quite happy if they are only able to be in the top four zone at the end of this season because in previous seasons Dortmund were not so disappointed when they were unable to become champions in the Bundesliga. But their own fans also really want to see Dortmund become a champion team again in the Bundesliga even with only the players they have. And for this season it seems that Dortmund must be able to change their tactics so that they are not easily defeated by every opponent in the Bundesliga this season.
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The discussion about Dortmund has become something that has been most discussed on this thread in the last two pages, from my point of view it feels we just stressing it too much because One thing I have always seen with them is that they always have their ways around what ever the situation it is they find themselves, they have always been times when they sell of key talented players a d it will feel like they may not make it to top four only for them o qualify for the champions League, that was how they had similar scenarios two seasons back and last season they were one of the top teams in the champions League who did finished well so I don't really get bothered about them because I know they are going to still get back on their feet to a decent finish at least.

This Bundesliga is different from previous editions where only a few well-known teams dominate the standings. Borussia Dortmund is one of the teams that has not performed well this season, their name has been overwritten by several unexpected teams such as Frankfurt, Freiburg & Union Berlin. I think it's quite worth discussing Borussia Dortmund, because different from what you said 2 seasons ago, it looks like they will even find it difficult to be in the top 5 this season.
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Dortmund's performance so far during this season was disappointing and I think they are much worse than last season maybe that's because of the new coach they have and maybe that's because of them hiring not enough good players for their team. Dortmund is known for selling the superstar players for money and now they are paying for it. However, Dortmund is not a bad team and there are many fans in Germany since they are a great team.
They recently lost the game against Mainz, while Mainz was not a strong team to beat a team like Dortmund. However, maybe the red card they got was effective in this match. Emre Can get a red card at the start of the match.
Dortmund performance this season has been disappointing due to changes in coaching staff and lack of strong player signings. They have sold top players for money and now they are paying price. Behind these struggles Dortmund remains respected team with loyal German fans. Their surprise loss to Mainz was partly due to Emre Can early red card. If Dortmund want to improve so they need to adjust to new coach style and sign better players and keep their best players and avoid red cards. With these changes and stability, Dortmund can regain their competitive edge and do better.

From my perspective, Terzic is a few times better than Nuri Sahin as a dortmund's coach. Dortmund played far better under him instead of Nuri Sahin. They even reached the UCL final, though they lost to Madrid. Still, it was a good achievement, given the money they made as a result of reaching the final of UCL.

 It's totally differ when they played under Nuri Sahin. They made too many human errors in any game. Their performance went downhill, and there was no improvement at all. The only thing i can see that if they're only declining even deeper.

The decision to change Dortmund's coach must be taken as soon as possible to save the club.
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Dortmund is in 7th position this season and if we look at the teams that are ahead of Dortmund they are all strong teams that are trying their best to make sure they qualify for the Champions League next season, Dortmund current situation is bad and the team needs to find the solution to it if not they will end up not qualify for Champion League next season and that will be a disgrace for a big team like Dortmund.

Dortmund's performance this season is very weak. Dortmund has only been able to win 5 matches out of 10 matches. Dortmund has lost all four matches. And is in seventh place in the table. Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four of the table are also very low.

Dortmund's main weakness is their defense. Mainly because of the weak defense, Dortmund is not able to achieve good results this season. I think if Dortmund's defense improves, Dortmund's overall performance will be even stronger. Dortmund has scored 18 goals in 10 matches and conceded 18 goals. If Dortmund's defenders cannot play well, we will not see improvement in Dortmund's performance.
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Dortmund performance this season has been disappointing due to changes in coaching staff and lack of strong player signings. They have sold top players for money and now they are paying price. Behind these struggles Dortmund remains respected team with loyal German fans. Their surprise loss to Mainz was partly due to Emre Can early red card. If Dortmund want to improve so they need to adjust to new coach style and sign better players and keep their best players and avoid red cards. With these changes and stability, Dortmund can regain their competitive edge and do better.
Support from fans alone is not enough without being equipped with classy players, Perhaps the situation Dortmund is currently experiencing is the result of the club's policy of only seeking profit from player sales without thinking about the club's future success. Even though they are currently performing well in the UCL, they cannot maintain this momentum in the Bundesliga. This season they are finding it increasingly difficult to compete with Bayern Munich who have performed very consistently with Kompany, targeting a top-four finish may be more realistic than competing in the title race.
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About the bad results that Dortmund got this season, maybe this season will make other teams succeed in finishing in the Champions League zone this season. Because it seems, Eintracht Frankfurt from season to season also has a good effort even though it still fails to survive in the top four. But at least, Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to be in the upper zone in the standings, although not in the top four, but at least Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to finish in the top ten in the last few seasons. Thus, maybe with the slump experienced by Dortmund this season will provide a good chance for other teams especially about Eintracht Frankfurt to be able to finish in the top four. But even so, I also still believe that Dortmund could rise quickly maybe in the second half of the season.

I have been thinking about Dortmund's performance this season I don't think they can even make a good position this season, Dortmund is having a bad performance this season and sometimes they perform like a team that is capable of defeating any opponents, in their last match they received a red card and that makes them lose the game, I was thinking they are going well win the last match they play but after Received red card I started having feelings that they will lose the game and that is what happens.

Dortmund is in 7th position this season and if we look at the teams that are ahead of Dortmund they are all strong teams that are trying their best to make sure they qualify for the Champions League next season, Dortmund current situation is bad and the team needs to find the solution to it if not they will end up not qualify for Champion League next season and that will be a disgrace for a big team like Dortmund.
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Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

Do you think Dortmund can win the Bundesliga title this season? We have seen erratic performances from Dortmund since the start of the season. And right now Dortmund is seventh in the points table. Dortmund is 10 points behind Bayern Munich. I don't think Dortmund will be able to dominate the Bundesliga this season.
I don't think so, Dortmund's chances of winning the title this season seem very slim unlike previous seasons where they had a great chance, being 10 points behind the leaders is quite a big gap even though Dortmund tries to catch up if Bayern keeps winning it will be in vain. With Dortmund's current performance it is likely that they will not chase the Bundesliga title but will still try to finish in the top 4 as usual.

Dortmund's performance so far during this season was disappointing and I think they are much worse than last season maybe that's because of the new coach they have and maybe that's because of them hiring not enough good players for their team. Dortmund is known for selling the superstar players for money and now they are paying for it. However, Dortmund is not a bad team and there are many fans in Germany since they are a great team.
They recently lost the game against Mainz, while Mainz was not a strong team to beat a team like Dortmund. However, maybe the red card they got was effective in this match. Emre Can get a red card at the start of the match.


The red card Emre Can received must have disrupted the entire game order of Borussia Dortmund. I think Technical Director Nuri Şahin forgot to make transfers to the best positions. There are still problems in the defense area. They concede goals quickly or give away easy positions in defense. They had a very bad start for an elite team in the German league. They need to pull themselves together now. If they can't make good transfers in the mid-season transfer period, they could end this year like this.
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Actually, to tell the truth, the yellow and black team is far from the championship this year. We can say that Borussia Dortmund is one of the most established teams in the German league. When this is the case, they want continuous success. The technical director is at the center of criticism because he cannot achieve this success. Also, considering that the players are of good quality, it is obvious that the problem may also be the technical director. It is a big risk to change the technical director before the end of the season, but perhaps the German team can take this risk.
If you look at their performance this season, it is far from expectations as one of the candidates for the Bundesliga title this season because there are indeed several other teams that are much more consistent than them. There are many things that may need to be fixed so that Dortmund can set more achievement targets and I don't like the management style that always sells quality young players so that all they get is profit not a club success and this is what often happens and even Dortmund always fails to reach the top of the standings until they succeed in winning the Bundesliga.
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Dortmund's performance so far during this season was disappointing and I think they are much worse than last season maybe that's because of the new coach they have and maybe that's because of them hiring not enough good players for their team. Dortmund is known for selling the superstar players for money and now they are paying for it. However, Dortmund is not a bad team and there are many fans in Germany since they are a great team.
They recently lost the game against Mainz, while Mainz was not a strong team to beat a team like Dortmund. However, maybe the red card they got was effective in this match. Emre Can get a red card at the start of the match.
Dortmund performance this season has been disappointing due to changes in coaching staff and lack of strong player signings. They have sold top players for money and now they are paying price. Behind these struggles Dortmund remains respected team with loyal German fans. Their surprise loss to Mainz was partly due to Emre Can early red card. If Dortmund want to improve so they need to adjust to new coach style and sign better players and keep their best players and avoid red cards. With these changes and stability, Dortmund can regain their competitive edge and do better.
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Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

Do you think Dortmund can win the Bundesliga title this season? We have seen erratic performances from Dortmund since the start of the season. And right now Dortmund is seventh in the points table. Dortmund is 10 points behind Bayern Munich. I don't think Dortmund will be able to dominate the Bundesliga this season.
I don't think so, Dortmund's chances of winning the title this season seem very slim unlike previous seasons where they had a great chance, being 10 points behind the leaders is quite a big gap even though Dortmund tries to catch up if Bayern keeps winning it will be in vain. With Dortmund's current performance it is likely that they will not chase the Bundesliga title but will still try to finish in the top 4 as usual.

Dortmund's performance so far during this season was disappointing and I think they are much worse than last season maybe that's because of the new coach they have and maybe that's because of them hiring not enough good players for their team. Dortmund is known for selling the superstar players for money and now they are paying for it. However, Dortmund is not a bad team and there are many fans in Germany since they are a great team.
They recently lost the game against Mainz, while Mainz was not a strong team to beat a team like Dortmund. However, maybe the red card they got was effective in this match. Emre Can get a red card at the start of the match.

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The discussion about Dortmund has become something that has been most discussed on this thread in the last two pages, from my point of view it feels we just stressing it too much because One thing I have always seen with them is that they always have their ways around what ever the situation it is they find themselves, they have always been times when they sell of key talented players a d it will feel like they may not make it to top four only for them o qualify for the champions League, that was how they had similar scenarios two seasons back and last season they were one of the top teams in the champions League who did finished well so I don't really get bothered about them because I know they are going to still get back on their feet to a decent finish at least.
I agree that it is ridiculous to draw far-reaching conclusions so early about a failed or successful Borussia Dortmund season. The championship has not reached its third yet and there is still plenty of time to save the situation. Any long winning streak will elevate the club to the leaders of the championship. Another question is that I am not sure that the club will be the main competitor of Bayern Munich for the title, which started the season strongly and that if Munich continues the season like this, it may not give Dortmund a chance to get closer to itself. But to begin with, Borussia just need to rise higher in the standings and some trends for the season can only begin to be discussed after the end of the first round of the Bundesliga.
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About the bad results that Dortmund got this season, maybe this season will make other teams succeed in finishing in the Champions League zone this season. Because it seems, Eintracht Frankfurt from season to season also has a good effort even though it still fails to survive in the top four. But at least, Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to be in the upper zone in the standings, although not in the top four, but at least Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to finish in the top ten in the last few seasons. Thus, maybe with the slump experienced by Dortmund this season will provide a good chance for other teams especially about Eintracht Frankfurt to be able to finish in the top four. But even so, I also still believe that Dortmund could rise quickly maybe in the second half of the season.
Eintracht Frankfurt is truly a good team that is always trying every season but their problem have always been finishing strong. They have a terrible record of being overtaken at the later part of the competition even in some season when they do show sign of aiming for the title. However, I think there is something unique about them this season which I can say is making them get better with every match they play. I have the feeling that they will qualify for champions league next season that is if Dortmund continue to fluctuate the way they are doing.
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Dortmund seemed to have two faces at the start of this season, they performed very well in the Champions League, while their performance in the Bundesliga was not completely stable. The impressive performance shown in the Champions League could not be transmitted to the Bundesliga, inconsistent performance since the start of the season has seen them drop to 7th position in the standings.

They're not falling off based on point as if they win their next game, they'll be third on the table. I know you're disappointed but the season is just starting and there are still many games to be played. By the time we reach the half of the season, that's when we can begin to see the clubs that will top the table and I believe that Dortmund will be among them. It's the losing that is making Dortmund to be at 7th as they have won 5 games and that's more wins than Leverkusen and Union Berlin that are 4th and 6th but as they have lost more games, it's what is reducing their points. Dortmund drawing their difficult games will help them more than losing it and losing all points.
Apart from Bayern Munich, we all know that Dortmund is the second big team in the Bundesliga and they have been the one competing with Bayern Munich for the past decade even if they have not been successful to win the Bundesliga. So even if they have to retard in their performance this time around, they shouldn't be blamed because they have been consistent. Even reaching the Champions League finals last season was a surprise to me. In the history of Bundesliga and also Champions League, Dortmund has made great impact in the past but for this season I did not see them competing as they used to do. Rather I am expecting Bayern Leverkusen and Frankfurt to do the work this time around.
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The discussion about Dortmund has become something that has been most discussed on this thread in the last two pages, from my point of view it feels we just stressing it too much because One thing I have always seen with them is that they always have their ways around what ever the situation it is they find themselves, they have always been times when they sell of key talented players a d it will feel like they may not make it to top four only for them o qualify for the champions League, that was how they had similar scenarios two seasons back and last season they were one of the top teams in the champions League who did finished well so I don't really get bothered about them because I know they are going to still get back on their feet to a decent finish at least.
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