Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 12.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 11, 2024, 08:36:56 AM

They can't do anything and have to play more matches, especially for players who are trusted by the country to be part of the squad. However, the players will be very happy when they are called by their country, because it can be said that this is one of their goals. Because when they are called, they must have become players who deserve to be called.
Now regarding the Champions League schedule with a new format, it has actually been discussed for a long time. However, we are all in this new format, so clubs and players must enjoy it even though it cannot be denied that a denser schedule will drain more energy too.

I don't think that all the players would be happy when selected to play for their country this season since the game will be stressful for them, and I'm confident that if a player plays every game this season, they will go down due to injury because there are about 70 games in a single season. Many players will miss these international games because of injuries, and I'm not sure whether all of them suffered serious injuries. Perhaps they are simply avoiding the international games for the moment, so they can concentrate on the league games after.

Quote from: Farma on November 12, 2024, 01:36:26 AM

It shows that Dortmund does not have a good mentality, they only play well when playing at home but overall their performance this season is not that good and in my opinion Dortmund has declined compared to last season.
Now Dortmund is in 7th place in the standings and if you look at their performance I am pessimistic that Dortmund can reach or finish in the top 4 this season.

You also observe that Dortmund's performance appears to be strongest at home, but it goes down when they play away. Dortmund has lost to Augsburg this season and their last game before the international break to Mainz, a team Leipzig has defeated away this season. Dortmund's performance cannot be relied on at this time; despite the fact that the season is still early, they must perform much better if they are to finish among the top four this season, since their current performance will not get them there.

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Quote from: Farma on November 12, 2024, 01:36:26 AM

It shows that Dortmund does not have a good mentality, they only play well when playing at home but overall their performance this season is not that good and in my opinion Dortmund has declined compared to last season.
Now Dortmund is in 7th place in the standings and if you look at their performance I am pessimistic that Dortmund can reach or finish in the top 4 this season.
And for the record that was said I think it's just a joke. lol

It is still very early to conclude like that because Dortmund is only one point behind the team in the top four zone, namely Leverkusen, even though Dortmund is currently in seventh place in the Bundesliga standings. In addition, I am also worried about the performance of teams like Union Berlin, Freiburg and Leverkusen because they all also look inconsistent enough in winning matches at the beginning of this season so the opportunity to seize the top four position by Dortmund is still very open because it is still quite possible to achieve.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 12, 2024, 02:10:14 AM

It seems that Kane has a strong competitor for the top scorer. Currently Kane has made 11 goals. This is the same with Frankfrut striker Omar Marmoush. Say saw from the beginning of the league that these 2 players were so prolific, in just 10 league games they made 11 goals.
List of the top 6 Bundesliga top scorers:
1. Omar Marmoush 11 goals
2. Harry Kane 11 goals
3. Victor Boniface 6 goals
4. Kleindienst team 6 goals
5. Jonathan Burkard 6 goals
6. Serhou Guirassy 6 goals

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/goals

Since transfered from Tottenham to Bayern Munich Harry Kane can adapt quickly with this team and last season he was being an Bundesliga best player and Bundesliga top scorer and for this season too his chances to repeat last season achievement will be wide open and if Kane can able to managed his consistency for every matches i am sure he can scores at least 30 goals or even above until this season ended

For Omar Marmoush last season he only scores 12 goals from 29 matches in Bundesliga with Frankfurt but this season he has change became an sharp striker because until week 10 he can scores 11 goals and this achievement too makes some rumours appears regarding his future that the latest rumour about him is Liverpool is interested want to bought him this January

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It seems that Kane has a strong competitor for the top scorer. Currently Kane has made 11 goals. This is the same with Frankfrut striker Omar Marmoush. Say saw from the beginning of the league that these 2 players were so prolific, in just 10 league games they made 11 goals.
List of the top 6 Bundesliga top scorers:
1. Omar Marmoush 11 goals
2. Harry Kane 11 goals
3. Victor Boniface 6 goals
4. Kleindienst team 6 goals
5. Jonathan Burkard 6 goals
6. Serhou Guirassy 6 goals

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/goals

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Quote from: Iranus on November 11, 2024, 12:59:14 PM

The good thing is the point difference between four teams from the fourth position to the 7th is only one. And that's where I think Dortmund has the opportunity to get into the top four positions. The problem is Dortmund has been the most inconsistent. Literally winning one then losing one then winning one then losing one. They are literally consistently inconsistent. That kind of performance is definitely not going to be enough for them to reach the top four positions when it comes. They will have to improve their performance very quickly. And right now they are still in a good situation as I said because the point difference is low. If they do not start performing well quickly and the other teams start performing well, it is going to be a problem for them. At that time it might be very hard for them to actually overcome the odds

But if in the end Dortmund's focus only returns to the position they should have gotten unlike the previous 2 seasons where they were always able to compete for trophies of course this is good but the competition has weakened for this season.

The competition for trophies at the beginning of this season has loosened a bit which in the end has made Bayern run alone for now.

Dortmund's consistency is still very bad at the moment especially if you look at the statistics when 10 matches ended with 4 defeats including 3 defeats in the last 5 matches that are clearly not good. Currently Dortmund must try harder because in the end they still have to remain one of the clubs that must remain in the top standings and should even be able to enliven the competition for trophies.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 11, 2024, 10:05:43 PM

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Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

I also wonder why people think that 7 consecutive home wins is a record. I mean it's really funny. It's different to say 7 consecutive home and away wins. Of course it's a great achievement even for a team like Dortmund. I don't even think that consecutive home wins is a record. It's too specific. And it doesn't show the performance of a team. Unless you get 7 consecutive wins in the league or in the UCL. Dortmund are currently 7th in the standings. That record doesn't make Dortmund better. Dortmund should focus on improving their performance, not trying to find records that are not so useful.

It shows that Dortmund does not have a good mentality, they only play well when playing at home but overall their performance this season is not that good and in my opinion Dortmund has declined compared to last season.
Now Dortmund is in 7th place in the standings and if you look at their performance I am pessimistic that Dortmund can reach or finish in the top 4 this season.
And for the record that was said I think it's just a joke. lol

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Dortmund having such a big difference in home and away games could be attributed to the fact that they are used to playing in that arena and because of this they are a lot easier to do what they plan to do there. They do have a plan, Nuri Sahin is making them play within a style and that's fine and I do respect that, but at the same time we are talking about something that is going to take a while, and that is why I try to keep ignoring it whenever I see them lose.

Because I know that it doesn't take a few months to get that settled, the yare going to have hard time in some games and that is why they may lose. In this case, it's not a combined thing, it's not like on every game, they do well on home and bad on away games.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 11, 2024, 09:04:11 PM

Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

I also wonder why people think that 7 consecutive home wins is a record. I mean it's really funny. It's different to say 7 consecutive home and away wins. Of course it's a great achievement even for a team like Dortmund. I don't even think that consecutive home wins is a record. It's too specific. And it doesn't show the performance of a team. Unless you get 7 consecutive wins in the league or in the UCL. Dortmund are currently 7th in the standings. That record doesn't make Dortmund better. Dortmund should focus on improving their performance, not trying to find records that are not so useful.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 11, 2024, 09:04:11 PM

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 11, 2024, 06:29:25 AM

Borussia Dortmund under Nuri Şahin have had a poor away record this season. but they now have a seven-match winning streak at home. A 7-match home winning streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund. On the other hand, Nuri Şahin's coaching career at Borussia Dortmund did not get off to a good start. But I think Borussia Dortmund should give him more chances. Nuri Şahin is a former Borussia Dortmund player and has experience in the German Bundesliga. I think he will start to get good results in away games as well.

Where did you find the information that this is a record for Borussia Dortmund? You could simply include the link of the source you have been using.

Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

Do you think Dortmund can win the Bundesliga title this season? We have seen erratic performances from Dortmund since the start of the season. And right now Dortmund is seventh in the points table. Dortmund is 10 points behind Bayern Munich. I don't think Dortmund will be able to dominate the Bundesliga this season.

We saw a terrible performance from Dortmund against Mianz. The Mainz team is not that strong. And it was Mainz's third win of the season. Dortmund's players performed very badly in this match. Dortmund players managed to make only 2 shots in the entire match. Dortmund has no chance to be in the top four of the table if they perform so badly.

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Quote from: tiCeR on November 11, 2024, 07:30:42 AM

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 11, 2024, 06:29:25 AM

Borussia Dortmund under Nuri Şahin have had a poor away record this season. but they now have a seven-match winning streak at home. A 7-match home winning streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund. On the other hand, Nuri Şahin's coaching career at Borussia Dortmund did not get off to a good start. But I think Borussia Dortmund should give him more chances. Nuri Şahin is a former Borussia Dortmund player and has experience in the German Bundesliga. I think he will start to get good results in away games as well.

Where did you find the information that this is a record for Borussia Dortmund? You could simply include the link of the source you have been using.

Lol I also don't understand why only getting 7 wins is already called a record when it is a normal result for a team like Dortmund, even better than them like Bayern who won 8 in the Bundesliga. This could be called a record if Dortmund is able to win the title this season under Nuri Sahin but seeing Dortmund's performance this season in the Bundesliga I doubt this club can achieve it, Dortmund has disappointed many times with its inconsistent performance this season including in yesterday's match against Mainz Dortmund struggled to win.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 11, 2024, 06:51:19 AM

Almost 2 weeks the league will be off. The players who defended the country in the world cup qualifiers. Of course, this schedule is an addition that requires a lot of energy. The fitness of the players will be tested and there may be a possibility of fatigue that will make the players prone to injury. The reason is that the top players who are in the European first team have played with a very tight schedule. Leagues, league cups, UCL with new formats add to the problem of tight match schedules.

They can't do anything and have to play more matches, especially for players who are trusted by the country to be part of the squad. However, the players will be very happy when they are called by their country, because it can be said that this is one of their goals. Because when they are called, they must have become players who deserve to be called.
Now regarding the Champions League schedule with a new format, it has actually been discussed for a long time. However, we are all in this new format, so clubs and players must enjoy it even though it cannot be denied that a denser schedule will drain more energy too.

I think the new format of the Champions League has added a different excitement to the Champions League. Not bad results were obtained for German teams. Bayern Munich fell short of expectations, I can only say this. Borussia Dortmund lost the game against Barcelona later. This issue is still being criticized. If that surprise had not happened, Dortmund would not have had such bad scores. If we talk about the Bundesliga, it is a very bad season for Borussia Dortmund. Bayern Munich will definitely take over the leadership and become champions by the end of the season.

It is quite clear that the new format of the Champions League has changed the inclination of the new color to the competition and added colors to every match. Even if some German teams may not have offered some better performances, the fighting spirit being seen is not bad at all. Dortmund has had a small poor time within this season and their performance has been unpredictable but I think they are capable of more. This stout-hearted team has remained a constant factor in the Bundesliga and there is every likelihood they will continue so till the completion of the season.

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Well it's good that you actually gave credit to Mainz because I have seen cases in football even the opponent has one or two red card and was still able to withstand if not even outplay the team which is complete but it rarely happens but we can't rule out that possiblity.

Dortmund this season is something else , if it's the goals scoring they are actually not doing bad but when it comes to conceiving goals thats where the problem is and it's also same thing with Bayer Leverkusen as they can hardly keep a clean sheet in a game they were to score a goal.

You are right Mainz deserves credit for their win. In football it is not always easy for team to win when they have fewer players on field because of red cards. But sometimes it happens. Mainz played well and won. Dortmund is having tough season. Their problem is not scoring goals they are doing okay with that. Problem is letting in too many goals. Bayer Leverkusen has same issue. They struggle to keep other team from scoring. When they score goals they often let in goals too. Both Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen need to work on their defense. They need to find ways to stop other team from scoring.

FSV Mainz 05 football full strength team did 3 goals in this match and opponent team did only 1 goal in this match . The attackers of FSV Mainz 05 team are powerful and they always try to hit and did goals. Lee did goal at 36 minutes of the match and after that one more player did goal at 48 minutes and last goal was done by Nebel and he did at 54 minutes and his team was winner after his goal . The shots of that team were more in number and that were 13 and 9 were on target and possession percentage was 53 percent and possession of opponent team was 47 percent.But the difference of both teams passes was not high and passes of Mainz team were 478 and against team did 442 .

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 11, 2024, 01:21:40 PM

I think the new format of the Champions League has added a different excitement to the Champions League. Not bad results were obtained for German teams. Bayern Munich fell short of expectations, I can only say this. Borussia Dortmund lost the game against Barcelona later. This issue is still being criticized. If that surprise had not happened, Dortmund would not have had such bad scores. If we talk about the Bundesliga, it is a very bad season for Borussia Dortmund. Bayern Munich will definitely take over the leadership and become champions by the end of the season.

This new format in the UEFA Champions League comes with full surprise, we've watch how these clubs performance played down and I must say, I'm impressed with most of these elite clubs performance and not also impressed with the current performance of other clubs. This is not just some random league but a tournament for Champions, consisting of the best clubs in Europe, coming out to play their very best to win the UEFA trophy. Real Madrid comes first on the list because they've good records towards winning the title but that odds have been questionable, not good enough watching their performance. There's also Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Manchester City, let's see how everything plays out.

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Quote from: hahay on November 11, 2024, 11:42:07 AM

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Where did you find the information that this is a record for Borussia Dortmund? You could simply include the link of the source you have been using.

As for Nuri Sahin, being a former Borussia Dortmund and a Bundesliga player are nice to have attributes, but they are never a guarantee for someone to develop the traits it takes to build world class football teams. I don't think that Nuri Sahin is the best coach for the club given the situation they are in. I would rather want a more experienced coach who has developed a team before. Even if it is only a very successful youth team, but Nuri Sahin literally has nothing to show. It was the worst choice in my opinion, but maybe it was because there was nobody else.

If you can't find Dortmund's home and away results so far this season, I've provided screenshots below. Obviously, so far this season Dortmund have done very well at home in all competitions, but I don't know whether that's a record or not. Because I think, it looks like Dortmund might have had good results too in previous seasons when they were consistently in secondplace. But yes, it doesn't matter about the record because of course, the most important thing is about Nuri Sahin who must be able to make Dortmund in a better position. Because basically Nuri Sahin is not a new person in Dortmund, at least Nuri Sahin was a former Dortmund player in the past and also, Nuri Sahin also previously served as Dortmund's assistant coach. Thus, it is indeed a must for Nuri Sahin to be able to make Dortmund strong again in the top four of the Bundesliga standings.
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The post I responded to said that seven won games in a streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund, which means they have never done that before. But that if wrong and that is why I asked for the source. Winning seven homes games while not really winning anything away from home has never won any team a title and is definitely insufficient for a team that wants to compete for the trophy.

I think that winning at home in the Dortmund stadium is not all that hard. That's where the fans do the job and not the coach. Nuri Sahin has no real character or personality. He looks like a little boy and I doubt that the Dortmund players can take his as seriously as they should and would if he were a top coach.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 11, 2024, 11:52:45 AM

One of the painful mysteries of players getting injured when playing for their national teams is that in most cases, it's their clubs that takes the responsibility of taking care of the injured players even when the injuries does happen when they weren't playing for the clubs and that's why you see some elite clubs devicing means to stop their players from joining the national teams especially when they think the games to be played aren't too important.
That being said, you can't stop players from representing their countries in few games when they're fit so it's important that national team coaches and club managers works together when making such decisions.

The main reason for that is the past. In the past these players were going to their national teams for pride reasons, and they were representing their nation and they were proud to do that and it would be unwise for any team to say no. Because if a team said no, then other teams would just say "we will allow you to do that" and that's what happened.

Some teams decided to not let their players play in international games, and other teams grabbed their players after the contract ran out, and seeing this, every team fell in line with it and just let them do whatever they want. If you do it now, like not let it, then same would happen and that is why for the past 40+ years, nothing has changed, even if they are injured, you take that risk when signing a contract.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 11, 2024, 08:36:56 AM

Quote from: Luzin on November 11, 2024, 06:51:19 AM

Almost 2 weeks the league will be off. The players who defended the country in the world cup qualifiers. Of course, this schedule is an addition that requires a lot of energy. The fitness of the players will be tested and there may be a possibility of fatigue that will make the players prone to injury. The reason is that the top players who are in the European first team have played with a very tight schedule. Leagues, league cups, UCL with new formats add to the problem of tight match schedules.

They can't do anything and have to play more matches, especially for players who are trusted by the country to be part of the squad. However, the players will be very happy when they are called by their country, because it can be said that this is one of their goals. Because when they are called, they must have become players who deserve to be called.
Now regarding the Champions League schedule with a new format, it has actually been discussed for a long time. However, we are all in this new format, so clubs and players must enjoy it even though it cannot be denied that a denser schedule will drain more energy too.

I think the new format of the Champions League has added a different excitement to the Champions League. Not bad results were obtained for German teams. Bayern Munich fell short of expectations, I can only say this. Borussia Dortmund lost the game against Barcelona later. This issue is still being criticized. If that surprise had not happened, Dortmund would not have had such bad scores. If we talk about the Bundesliga, it is a very bad season for Borussia Dortmund. Bayern Munich will definitely take over the leadership and become champions by the end of the season.

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Quote from: hahay on November 10, 2024, 02:57:10 PM

Although Dortmund still seems to have a chance to enter the top four, it doesn't seem easy at all because the next opponent is Freiburg who also still has the ambition to compete to enter the top four. The points gap is still very close like that, of course it will make the competition more difficult because each team will also do their best to be in a better position in the standings. Interestingly, Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt seem to be able to create a safe points gap with the teams below them, because teams like Bayer Leverkusen who are currently in fourth place are experiencing inconsistency so that they get a fairly wide points gap with Eintracht Frankfurt and also Leipzig who are in second and third positions.

The good thing is the point difference between four teams from the fourth position to the 7th is only one. And that's where I think Dortmund has the opportunity to get into the top four positions. The problem is Dortmund has been the most inconsistent. Literally winning one then losing one then winning one then losing one. They are literally consistently inconsistent. That kind of performance is definitely not going to be enough for them to reach the top four positions when it comes. They will have to improve their performance very quickly. And right now they are still in a good situation as I said because the point difference is low. If they do not start performing well quickly and the other teams start performing well, it is going to be a problem for them. At that time it might be very hard for them to actually overcome the odds

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However, in such situations, elite clubs are often hesitant to release star players on international duty due to the high risk of injury upon their return.

Because that is what a coach and team owner are worried about. Not only a few and many important players return to their respective teams with injuries and as a coach it will certainly be more complicated to have to find the right replacement for players or lose their best performance. So some top teams usually have many options when the transfer market opens, they are looking for new players who have quality talent to be substitutes when the main players are injured.

One of the painful mysteries of players getting injured when playing for their national teams is that in most cases, it's their clubs that takes the responsibility of taking care of the injured players even when the injuries does happen when they weren't playing for the clubs and that's why you see some elite clubs devicing means to stop their players from joining the national teams especially when they think the games to be played aren't too important.
That being said, you can't stop players from representing their countries in few games when they're fit so it's important that national team coaches and club managers works together when making such decisions.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 11, 2024, 11:01:28 AM

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However, in such situations, elite clubs are often hesitant to release star players on international duty due to the high risk of injury upon their return.

Because that is what a coach and team owner are worried about. Not only a few and many important players return to their respective teams with injuries and as a coach it will certainly be more complicated to have to find the right replacement for players or lose their best performance. So some top teams usually have many options when the transfer market opens, they are looking for new players who have quality talent to be substitutes when the main players are injured.

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Quote from: tiCeR on November 11, 2024, 07:30:42 AM

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 11, 2024, 06:29:25 AM

Borussia Dortmund under Nuri Şahin have had a poor away record this season. but they now have a seven-match winning streak at home. A 7-match home winning streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund. On the other hand, Nuri Şahin's coaching career at Borussia Dortmund did not get off to a good start. But I think Borussia Dortmund should give him more chances. Nuri Şahin is a former Borussia Dortmund player and has experience in the German Bundesliga. I think he will start to get good results in away games as well.

Where did you find the information that this is a record for Borussia Dortmund? You could simply include the link of the source you have been using.

As for Nuri Sahin, being a former Borussia Dortmund and a Bundesliga player are nice to have attributes, but they are never a guarantee for someone to develop the traits it takes to build world class football teams. I don't think that Nuri Sahin is the best coach for the club given the situation they are in. I would rather want a more experienced coach who has developed a team before. Even if it is only a very successful youth team, but Nuri Sahin literally has nothing to show. It was the worst choice in my opinion, but maybe it was because there was nobody else.

If you can't find Dortmund's home and away results so far this season, I've provided screenshots below. Obviously, so far this season Dortmund have done very well at home in all competitions, but I don't know whether that's a record or not. Because I think, it looks like Dortmund might have had good results too in previous seasons when they were consistently in secondplace. But yes, it doesn't matter about the record because of course, the most important thing is about Nuri Sahin who must be able to make Dortmund in a better position. Because basically Nuri Sahin is not a new person in Dortmund, at least Nuri Sahin was a former Dortmund player in the past and also, Nuri Sahin also previously served as Dortmund's assistant coach. Thus, it is indeed a must for Nuri Sahin to be able to make Dortmund strong again in the top four of the Bundesliga standings.
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