Topic: 🔥 GingerWallet.io - Desktop, Non-custodial, Open source | #CoinJoin - page 4. (Read 1158 times)

Their ToS state US citizens are not allowed to use their wallet therefore to some degree they are trying to avoid US jurisdiction but it will not help them if they are accused of money laundering as the US will seize their website regardless. Is it possible they are using blockchain analysis in order to present as a defence to legal authorities for mitigation if ever in future they were accused of money laundering?

One statement conflicts the other. It cannot simultaneously be "zero-knowledge" and not accept USA residents. To block USA residents, you need to know who's a USA resident.

If GingerWallet is following the exact same protocol as Wasabi (WabiSabi), then communication between the user and the coordinator is made using Tor circuits, otherwise input registration is not blinded. If that's the case, then the coordinator is incapable of identifying the region of the user.

Based on the "Why fork" section of this blog post, at some point in the future they might go in a different direction.

It depends on the state of mempool and how large their asset is before the split... As of this writing ^{[8 sat/vB]}, splitting 0.1BTC into 0.01BTC inputs would be cheaper than paying the coordinator fee in question.

As long as Ginger Wallet is entirely Transparent, I presume they can build a much stronger reputation around their name and Product.  Wasabi lost their reputation because of the way they handled the situation.

Working with Blockchain Analysis is understandable for a team of people who are not willing to compromise their own Safety and Freedom for a Product.  When lies come out, they doxx competitors et cetera, you probably naturally start questioning their real motives.  We never got answers for so many of our questions besides avoidance and 'I do not know', so the situation only became worse and worse.

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Got a few curiosities.

I wonder, is Ginger Wallet going to continue only tweaking future versions of Wasabi or are they going an entirely separate path and looking to build a separate Product?

This is a great incentive for new users who want to test it out or have small Inputs.  But can this be some how 'abused' by Ginger users resulting in spamming the Blockchain with unnecessary Transactions?  As in splitting their holdings into Inputs of 0.01 Bitcoin so they can avoid the Fees?  In my head, it would cost just about as much or even more if you did this than if you just paid the Fee, so I may be well wrong.

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A little note.  On a non Java Script browser, many of the images do not show up.

This looks like an interesting project, their website states: "Ginger Wallet forked from Wasabi Wallet. A new coordinator with an active coinjoin service has been established."

I was going to ask if GingerWallet was going to use a blockchain analysis company in the same way WasabiWallet did but I opted to check their Terms and Conditions.

It seems they are implementing the same use of third party blockchain analysis companies as WasabiWallet did therefore why do it when they saw how fast WasabiWallet lost trust and reputation because of it?

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GingerWallet is designed as a zero-knowledge software! .Open-source, Non-custodial, Desktop, CoinJoin.. The wallet employs WabiSabi, an anonymous credential scheme designed to facilitate more accessible and efficient coinjoins. CoinJoining coins with a value exceeding 0.01 BTC incurs a 0.3% coordinator fee + mining fees. Inputs of 0.01 BTC or less, as well as remixes, are exempt from coordinator fees, even after a single transaction.

• Release Highlights

➥ This version is similar to Wasabi Wallet v2.0.8, just small tweaks and rebranding.
➥ Default coordinator set to Ginger coordinator (cannot be changed). See coordinator highlights below 👇
➥ Ginger is using the user's same working folder as Wasabi. Create backup if required.
➥ Our signatures are new - in browsers so you might get warning messages because their reputation score is low.

• Coordinator Highlights ^{[Same fees structure as before with Wasabi(zkSNACKs) coordinator]}.

➥ FREE under 0.01 BTC!
➥ Coordinator commission 0.3% + mining fees.
➥ Free for coins that come from Wasabi coinjoins
➥ Secure! Illicit actors are not allowed to participate! Residents of USA not allowed to use it!

• How to add Ginger coordinator to Wasabi?

1. Click to Search bar » Type "Config File" » Press ENTER.
2. Change MainNetBackendUri from https://api.wasabiwallet.io/ to https://api.gingerwallet.io/.
3. Restart Wasabi Wallet.

• How to add Ginger coordinator to BTCPAY server?

1. Select Discover Coordinators over Nostr.
2. Select Ginger Coordinator.
3. Save ➥ FAQ

• Requirements

➥ Windows 10+ / https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/download/v2.0.9/Ginger-2.0.9.msi
➥ MacOS 12.0+ Intel / https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/download/v2.0.9/Ginger-2.0.9.dmg
➥ MacOS 12.0+ M1, M2 / https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/download/v2.0.9/Ginger-2.0.9-arm64.dmg
➥ Ubuntu, Debian / https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/download/v2.0.9/Ginger-2.0.9.deb
➥ Other Linux / https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/download/v2.0.9/Ginger-2.0.9.tar.gz