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War worsens life for average people, sometimes for rich people too but I think that nothing changes for elites and to my mind, war makes them even richer. Just think about what happens in Russia-Ukraine war, the USA send aids to Ukraine but somehow they can't find the traces of billions of dollars, they are lost. How is that possible? My answer is that someone got richer and that's why billions got somehow missed.
Now let's talk about the economic decline. Yes, it declines when big countries have a war because workforce is in war instead of in their daily jobs, the land becomes damaged via rocket and other attacks, it's getting harder, expensive and riskier for locals to live, to work, to farm. And on top of that when your countries (EU and the USA) spend billions of dollars as an aid, for sure there will be an economic problems and high inflation.
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The emergence of war is has adverse effects for global peace;adverse global  economic effects including extreme poverty,unemployment,inflation,food shortages,deglobalization and unfavorable environmental factors.

For the global economy, fuel and food shortages caused by the war are exacerbating post-pandemic inflation that had already reached multi-decade highs in most of the world. War us a global threat and it reduces the world's economic progess to a zero level.
 War is affects our lives,there's withdrawal of economic and financial activities,leaving us with no choice to suffer insignificantly.

Wars leave deep traces in the country’s economy during and after the war, as well as social and physical consequences.Even after the war,it takes a lot time and effort for some countries and finally recover from the loss and decline in the global sectors.
Yeah, the effects are global even if there is only two countries who are fighting for each other. One cause would be is the sanctioning of one country involved in the war. It's funny or contradictory when they say that war gives/restores peace when in fact it can also cause more disturbances.

War affects progress but those who will go back to zero are only the countries who are totally destroyed. If the war is so severe, then yeah it will leave a deep trace but it makes us feel proud too once we stand up again. It makes us to feel stronger than ever, though It is still better if there will be no wars because not all are strong enough to withstand it.
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In a practical context, the conflicts between Russia and Ukraine as well as Israel and Palestine show that wars have a number of costs in terms of military expenditure as well as negative consequences for socio-economic development over time. Apart from causing loss of life and destruction of human life and material culture, war also carries a heavy economic burden for the governments involved. Therefore, war does not only have a limited impact on the conflicting parties, but also has a wider impact.


I remember when the Russian and Ukrainian conflict first broke out, the prices of gas rose exponentially. We all know that if a country is a primary source of a specific commodity and they go into a war, other countries might not get the appropriate amount of commodities then the prices of those goods in other countries will increase which basically lead to other goods increasing.

Wars would play out domino effects that is why UN should do their best to stop or better yet prevent these wars from breaking out. A war in today’s time is much more destructive considering how connected everyone is now due to globalization.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.

"No one wins a war" is a powerful reminder about the impact of war on both sides. Economic aspects on both camps are clearly influenced in this event. Whether you are the winner or the loser, both will suffer economic concerns within their jurisdiction. The aftermath is usually hard as the country seems to start from the scratch.

And the hard truth, it is the regular people who are mostly affected by this event. Like it or not, the civilians are the first ones to feel its impact because their living rely on their daily job. Lucky for those who can easily get out of their country, and find a place to temporarily stay away from chaos.

You are right. Truly, no one wins a war. Even though agreements may be reached and fair conditions given after the war, it will take years to rebuild the economies of these affected countries into its old state and even better.  It is worrisome knowing that public funds which would have been useful in financing capital projects that would have brought about developments and better standards of living for the people, is being used to finance war. Economic restructuring in both countries will take years to achieve, social and political lives will be affected, and the citizens will have to endure for years till the countries are able to recover all that have been lost to some extent. War indeed alters Economic progression, therefore if any country should choose war over a peaceful settlement,  then they should be prepared to deal with life after the war.
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There is so much to war than just killing and distructions of house and properties. It's always easy to start but when it will finally end is what only time will tell. Even after a full blown war has come down, the effect of the war continues for years and years to come. Even inter communal crisis doesn't just end after there is cease fire or reduction in the killing of individuals, hatred builds up and it takes almost a long time before the economy of the nations at war gets restored back to normal.

The properties that have been destroyed in the Russia and Ukraine war can't be fixed up five years after the war. Even with the intervention of international organisation, it will take time before the two nations recovers economically from the war.
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Last summer, the Russian occupiers, in order to prevent the Ukrainian Armed Forces from recapturing their territories in the south of Ukraine and to prevent the upcoming expected offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, blew up one of the largest hydroelectric power stations in Europe - the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station. According to the assessment of the Ukrainian government and the UN, the amount of direct damage caused to the infrastructure and assets of Ukraine due to the destruction of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station by the Russians is $2.79 billion, and the damage is more than $11 billion.

But the law of karma, although slowly, inexorably works.
The day before, on April 5, in the Russian city of Orsk, Orenburg region, a dam broke on the Ural River. Thousands of houses were caught in the flood zone, and several thousand local residents had to be evacuated. According to Russian media, more than 4 thousand houses and more than 10 thousand residents were in the flood zone. Directly in the city of Orsk, water flooded almost 2.5 thousand houses. About 4 thousand residents were evacuated from there.
https://zn.ua/amp/WORLD/bolshaja-voda-nastihla-rf-v-orske-prorvalo-dambu-uzhe-soobshchaetsja-o-pervykh-pohibshikh.html

Now the housing and communal services sector of Russia is on the verge of survival. This winter, residents of the Moscow region were forced to warm themselves outside by fires, since the heating did not work. Instead of improving life in Russia itself, they decided to direct hundreds of millions of dollars every day to exterminate Ukrainian citizens and destroy their homes.

The irretrievable losses of Russians in this war are already approaching half a million soldiers and officers. More than 20 thousand of their tanks and armored vehicles were destroyed. Ukraine destroyed about a third of the Russian Black Sea Fleet with its weapons. Now the war has moved onto the territory of Russia itself, where military installations and everything that helps Russia wage this war are being destroyed. First of all, this applies to oil refineries. Because of this, Russia has already lost more than ten percent of its capacity, and the price of gasoline on world markets is rising.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.

"No one wins a war" is a powerful reminder about the impact of war on both sides. Economic aspects on both camps are clearly influenced in this event. Whether you are the winner or the loser, both will suffer economic concerns within their jurisdiction. The aftermath is usually hard as the country seems to start from the scratch.

And the hard truth, it is the regular people who are mostly affected by this event. Like it or not, the civilians are the first ones to feel its impact because their living rely on their daily job. Lucky for those who can easily get out of their country, and find a place to temporarily stay away from chaos.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.
What is certain is that war is a bad action, both through physical and non-physical actions, because it will result in physical violence and blockades in both countries which will have an impact on the economy. So if a war breaks out between the two countries, of course it will not only impact the two warring countries, but also various countries in the world. War can even cause food prices in a country to increase. The impact may initially only be a small change, but if the war is prolonged it can change the world economy drastically in the long term.

Because of course war is not just a small initial change, but a significant initial change. The deployment of large amounts of military force can also result in large expenditures, as happened in the Russia vs Ukraine and Israel vs Palestine wars. However, what is clear is that war not only takes lives and physical casualties, but also has a huge impact on both countries and also neighboring countries. Apart from that, other economic burdens including the construction of refugee camps, trauma caused by war, the collapse of the economic system in both countries, and the impact of weapons radiation are quite worrying in the long term.

War can result in physical violence, blockades, and enormous economic damage not only to the countries at war but also to the international community at large. In a practical context, the conflicts between Russia and Ukraine as well as Israel and Palestine show that wars have a number of costs in terms of military expenditure as well as negative consequences for socio-economic development over time. Apart from causing loss of life and destruction of human life and material culture, war also carries a heavy economic burden for the governments involved. Therefore, war does not only have a limited impact on the conflicting parties, but also has a wider impact.

One of the negative impacts of war is increasing food prices, draining government funds, and causing many detrimental impacts such as the establishment of refugee camps, post-traumatic stress disorder, destruction of the economic system, and radiation weapons. Given this situation, society should try to find alternative solutions by avoiding war so as not to cause wider negative impacts.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.
What is certain is that war is a bad action, both through physical and non-physical actions, because it will result in physical violence and blockades in both countries which will have an impact on the economy. So if a war breaks out between the two countries, of course it will not only impact the two warring countries, but also various countries in the world. War can even cause food prices in a country to increase. The impact may initially only be a small change, but if the war is prolonged it can change the world economy drastically in the long term.

Because of course war is not just a small initial change, but a significant initial change. The deployment of large amounts of military force can also result in large expenditures, as happened in the Russia vs Ukraine and Israel vs Palestine wars. However, what is clear is that war not only takes lives and physical casualties, but also has a huge impact on both countries and also neighboring countries. Apart from that, other economic burdens including the construction of refugee camps, trauma caused by war, the collapse of the economic system in both countries, and the impact of weapons radiation are quite worrying in the long term.

Adding to what you have already mentioned, many countries would see an increase in illegal immigrants in the country. Of course they are trying to escape and if the government is not there to help them, they would do everything in their power to get away from the war as much as possible.

Countries having connections with other countries also ensure that there will be a lot of countries involved trying to help each of the country they support. Full-blown wars are messy and thus should never happen. People hoping that world war iii is to happen must stop and think about the consequences of such war.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.
What is certain is that war is a bad action, both through physical and non-physical actions, because it will result in physical violence and blockades in both countries which will have an impact on the economy. So if a war breaks out between the two countries, of course it will not only impact the two warring countries, but also various countries in the world. War can even cause food prices in a country to increase. The impact may initially only be a small change, but if the war is prolonged it can change the world economy drastically in the long term.

Because of course war is not just a small initial change, but a significant initial change. The deployment of large amounts of military force can also result in large expenditures, as happened in the Russia vs Ukraine and Israel vs Palestine wars. However, what is clear is that war not only takes lives and physical casualties, but also has a huge impact on both countries and also neighboring countries. Apart from that, other economic burdens including the construction of refugee camps, trauma caused by war, the collapse of the economic system in both countries, and the impact of weapons radiation are quite worrying in the long term.
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War has always been associated with altered economic progression for citizens who then become victims of the harsh economic realities they will have to face as a result of crisis. But there are some people and companies that benefit and are not really affected whenever there is a crisis for instance, the manufacturers of guns and ammunitions, pharmaceutical supplies as well and relief materials are always in profit.

The emergence of war is has adverse effects for global peace;adverse global  economic effects including extreme poverty,unemployment,inflation,food shortages,deglobalization and unfavorable environmental factors.

For the global economy, fuel and food shortages caused by the war are exacerbating post-pandemic inflation that had already reached multi-decade highs in most of the world. War us a global threat and it reduces the world's economic progess to a zero level.
 War is affects our lives,there's withdrawal of economic and financial activities,leaving us with no choice to suffer insignificantly.

Wars leave deep traces in the country’s economy during and after the war, as well as social and physical consequences.Even after the war,it takes a lot time and effort for some countries and finally recover from the loss and decline in the global sectors.
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War brings chaos and destruction and death. Like the OP noted, war alters the economic and social growth of both parties involved. Even when the war clearly brings forth a victor, the victor also suffers economic consequences from the war. I wouldn’t exactly say the effects is felt more on the world than in the countries actually fighting the war.

Obviously, the impact is felt in the surrounding regions and all over. Goods and services normally produced in that region and exported to various parts of the earth would be affected, drastically reduced or even stopped. Warring parties would have to conserve resources for their own citizens as the normal rate of the production of goods and services would have been reduced.
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It really is disastrous. Lives are very valuable but it takes more than lives because economies crumble. And it’s saddening because this could likely be an economy which has been struggling to get up, and when it’s finally up, there’s war to bring it crumbling down. People who were struggling to get their lives together suddenly become poor again. Sometimes I wonder if the people who trigger this war not consider all the suffering and negative effects before casing it.
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War never brings anything good to any country. War means destruction.  The impact of war affects the war-torn country as well as other countries associated with that country. Just as war damages the economic condition of a country, it also devastates the country.  It is better not to get involved in war. Because it creates inflation. And inflation is a curse for a country. One should maintain peace without getting involved in war.
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War has a disastrous effects on people and the well-being of the nation at large.Similarly,war destroys communities,families and often disrupts the development of the social and economic efforts of nations.Putting aside the loss of human lives,the war also affects economic costs and inflation, it causes disorganization and disruption of normal economic running of the system.
 Neighbouring countries that have experienced and witnessed this clash becomes unsecured and feels unsafe in their environments.There can be better ways to resolve conflicts amongst nations but they'll choose to brutally attacked each other and wreck threatening havocs to livelihood.Preventing war is a good choice because It strengthens peace and promotes economic sustainability.
War should never be an option for any country to oblige to because the catastrophe is always unpredictable.
It is very important for the world countries to stay close to holding peace than trying to hard to make sure that problems keep coming when it supposed not to come. There are millions of reasons why we need to avoid war because the ones we are seeing in Ukraine is a typical example why we should make sure we stay out of war environment.
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War is something I don't think any individual or nation would want to be in. That's why every possible means to avoid it if possible is been sort for but, the need to exercise some form of sovereignty or be in charge of your own territory and avoid influence often makes it in editable in conflict situations and resolutions.
In war, people get to lose there homes and means of livelihood, infrastructures and civilization that took years yo build or developed is reduced to dust in minutes or hours. It's such a hard thing to take. The good thing about it is that, through all these, humanity have been seen to find a way to better ourselves.

If you look at the citizens of Russia and their behavior and statements during their war with Ukraine, it seems that your opinion that no nation wants war is very wrong.

A majority of Russians have supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine since early 2022. However, only a third of them believe that residents of the Russian Federation bear moral responsibility for the genocide of Ukrainians and the destruction caused by the Russian invasion on the territory of Ukraine. According to its results, as of January 2024, the majority of respondents (77%) support the war against Ukraine, 16% of respondents do not support it, and another 8% find it difficult to answer.
Imagine, three quarters of Russians want war and do not consider it immoral to kill women and children in Ukraine. Moreover, such a percentage within 70 exists constantly throughout the entire period of the war.

On March 15-17, the next presidential elections were held in Russia. And although the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation announced that 87 percent of the country’s population voted for Putin, analysts agree that the real figure is still somewhere around 47 percent. That is, almost half of the Russian population voted for the international criminal Putin, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague. The people of Russia continue to choose war in Ukraine and daily shelling of the territory and its settlements. Therefore, responsibility for the massacres in Ukraine lies not only with Putin and his entourage, but also with the entire Russian people.
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War is something I don't think any individual or nation would want to be in. That's why every possible means to avoid it if possible is been sort for but, the need to exercise some form of sovereignty or be in charge of your own territory and avoid influence often makes it in editable in conflict situations and resolutions.
In war, people get to lose there homes and means of livelihood, infrastructures and civilization that took years yo build or developed is reduced to dust in minutes or hours. It's such a hard thing to take. The good thing about it is that, through all these, humanity have been seen to find a way to better ourselves.

If you look at the citizens of Russia and their behavior and statements during their war with Ukraine, it seems that your opinion that no nation wants war is very wrong.

A majority of Russians have supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine since early 2022. However, only a third of them believe that residents of the Russian Federation bear moral responsibility for the genocide of Ukrainians and the destruction caused by the Russian invasion on the territory of Ukraine. According to its results, as of January 2024, the majority of respondents (77%) support the war against Ukraine, 16% of respondents do not support it, and another 8% find it difficult to answer.
Imagine, three quarters of Russians want war and do not consider it immoral to kill women and children in Ukraine. Moreover, such a percentage within 70 exists constantly throughout the entire period of the war.

In addition, only half of those surveyed support the idea of peace negotiations, but this figure has decreased slightly compared to November last year.

66% of Russians agree that the Russian Federation is paying too high a price for participating in the war. Most often these are women, those who barely have enough to eat and those who believe that the country is moving in the wrong direction. 25% have the opposite opinion.

About 64% of Russians do not believe that the country made a mistake by starting the war, but this figure has gradually increased compared to September last year.
About 22% of respondents consider the start of the war against Ukraine a mistake. Most often these are respondents who do not support the policies of dictator Vladimir Putin (55%)
https://nv.ua/world/countries/skolko-rossiyan-podderzhivayut-voynu-protiv-ukrainy-procent-novosti-rossii-50390654.html
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War has a disastrous effects on people and the well-being of the nation at large.Similarly,war destroys communities,families and often disrupts the development of the social and economic efforts of nations.Putting aside the loss of human lives,the war also affects economic costs and inflation, it causes disorganization and disruption of normal economic running of the system.
 Neighbouring countries that have experienced and witnessed this clash becomes unsecured and feels unsafe in their environments.There can be better ways to resolve conflicts amongst nations but they'll choose to brutally attacked each other and wreck threatening havocs to livelihood.Preventing war is a good choice because It strengthens peace and promotes economic sustainability.
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When I read your comment, I become a little stiff and my eyebrows raise in a combination of fear and skepticism. The allegations are catastrophic, perhaps cataclysmic, if true. Inflicting widespread damage on civilian infrastructure, flooding inhabited areas, and (most disturbing of all) mining nuclear power stations would be a flagrant breach of international law. Still, we need to proceed with caution in this informational minefield. A canister of smoke, "(mis)information" is frequently used as a weapon of war. Is there any proof that these events actually took place? In such cases, people everywhere will need to work together to avert disaster.

It's terrifying to think that natural calamities may be used as weapons, like playing Russian roulette with Mother Nature. Any such action would have far-reaching and terrible ramifications, not only for Ukraine but for the surrounding nations and regions as well. The stereotype of Russia as a crazed country that would bite off its own tail in a fit of rage is unsettling to many people. Wisdom and impartiality are our strongest allies in times of fear and uncertainty, so keep that in mind.


As a resident of Ukraine, and a resident of Kiev, who met February 24 at home, and spent a lot of time in the ranks of the Territorial Defense of Kiev, I can say - it was the position "let's be careful, let's talk, let's not jump to conclusions" from 2014 that led to February 2022. It led to hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian civilians killed, tens of thousands tortured to death by the most sadistic, inhumane method, hundreds of towns and cities destroyed (destroyed in the truest sense - they simply ceased to exist forever), about 35% of the economy irreversibly destroyed, millions of migrants and refugees who lost everything in their lives - from their families to their homes and personal belongings... I saw the results of this "operation to protect the Russian-speaking population"... Blood, destruction, grief, death, death, death...

I will tell you this, the Kremlin regime is the real cancer of the modern world. And if you think that cancer can be treated by talking and expecting "what if it goes away" - then find out what a delay in active treatment of cancer means, and you will understand why you are wrong about the situation with Russia's terrorist war against Ukraine. Russia's victory is the death of the entire developed world...
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When I read your comment, I become a little stiff and my eyebrows raise in a combination of fear and skepticism. The allegations are catastrophic, perhaps cataclysmic, if true. Inflicting widespread damage on civilian infrastructure, flooding inhabited areas, and (most disturbing of all) mining nuclear power stations would be a flagrant breach of international law. Still, we need to proceed with caution in this informational minefield. A canister of smoke, "(mis)information" is frequently used as a weapon of war. Is there any proof that these events actually took place? In such cases, people everywhere will need to work together to avert disaster.

It's terrifying to think that natural calamities may be used as weapons, like playing Russian roulette with Mother Nature. Any such action would have far-reaching and terrible ramifications, not only for Ukraine but for the surrounding nations and regions as well. The stereotype of Russia as a crazed country that would bite off its own tail in a fit of rage is unsettling to many people. Wisdom and impartiality are our strongest allies in times of fear and uncertainty, so keep that in mind.
If you consider Russia a civilized country, then you probably have not seen what the recently flourishing cities and other settlements in the east and south of Ukraine have turned into, where the foot of the Russian occupier set foot. Completely scorched earth with dilapidated walls of multi-storey buildings or almost complete ruins on the site of private one-story houses, as well as mass "fraternal" burials of tortured and shot civilian Ukrainians with their hands tied and with bags on their heads just because they consider themselves Ukrainians and had in home or carry Ukrainian symbols or a tattoo. Therefore, at all checkpoints, Russians undress Ukrainians to check for such tattoos or information on a mobile phone.

On June 22, the President of Ukraine Zelensky announced to the whole world about the mining of the Zaporizhzhya NPP and warned that Russia was preparing to stage a terrorist attack at the ZNPP with a release of radiation. Therefore, the president promised to transfer all available information with all confirmations to Western partners.
The head of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, also confirmed that the Zaporozhye NPP was mined along the perimeter and in some places inside the plant. This information is completely open and not hidden. What other evidence is needed to understand that the Russians have long surpassed the Nazis in their cruelty and cynicism?
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https://tsn.ua/ru/ato/zaporozhskaya-aes-zaminirovana-po-perimetru-i-vnutri-v-magate-soobschili-chto-s-prudom-2355487.html

Every day in Ukraine, tens of thousands of shells, mines and rockets are fired at the front, over a thousand kilometers long, and civilians die every day. The most brutal and large-scale war since the Second World War is underway.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now advancing through almost continuous minefields in the flat terrain of the southern steppes of Ukraine, where the Russians have an air superiority of about ten times. Not a single offensive military doctrine in the world provides for a major offensive with such superiority in enemy aircraft. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are gradually moving forward along the entire front and knocking out equipment, especially enemy artillery systems. For several weeks, the southern front of the Russians will inevitably crumble.
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