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Topic: Going to war means let's ulter the economic progression - page 6. (Read 1167 times)

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War jeopardize the economy and health being of its citizens. No country that encounters war remains the same no matter how developed or equipped it is financially. It should be avoided. The damage caused and the agony experience in war can be devastating to forget in one lifespan.
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The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

Indeed effects of war include every point you stated, but we don't see the case with Russia; only Ukraine is suffering these points.
I don't know about Russia supplying energy to Europe, but Russia is indeed a very large supplier of gas to the world, including Ukraine.

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

I don't understand everything you wrote but yes War on both sides is disastrous both the countries are losing their supplies Ukraine in extreme quantity compared to Russia.
I think Russia has already won the war looking at how many countries Ukraine needed to side with it.
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.
Nothing is profitable when war occurs except countries that supply weapons and drugs. Therefore there are sanctions, but it turns out that seeing the phenomenon of the war that occurred between Ukraine and Russia did not make Russia stop its aggression. Russia power with all the resources it has makes it immune to sanctions and even threatens back to countries that impose sanctions by stopping oil imports.
In today's era, there should be no more colonized countries, all must be independent and stand on their own feet. Enjoy legal freedom. Competition between big countries cannot be separated from the effects felt by the surrounding countries.
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War is a very bad thing for humanity, thousands of lives are lost and a lot of material and livelihoods are destroyed. It's usually a few powerful people at the top who decide about the fate of millions of people. It's sad that still in 2022 the world is in such a medieval mindset. The world needs to change to make wars a think of the past. The problem is that not everybody is hurting during war times, there are people who profit or it. For example, the weapon manufacturers in Europe and North America are making a lot of money right now. Western governments are sending their older equipment from stockpile to Ukraine and replace it with new weapons. On top of that did many countries increase their military budget. And then there are the many twitter videos that show how successful Ukraine is fighting with Western equipment, that's free marketing for the arms dealers.
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Obviously the whole supply chain stops or gets hampered with the war. With the live example of Russia, Ukraine different countries taking different sides, getting sanctions imposed and thus stopping the import export businesses all over the world is nothing but loss for the economy. Moreover, for every life that’s taken in the war we loose huge amount of asset for that country! A life has no price tag, because it’s priceless so it’s but obvious that everything gets disturbed. The whole family, their life circle resets, they need to regrow and settle.  It takes time and we already know how hard life is to have average lifestyle in the current inflation and it’s growing.
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Yes. But a country whose main product is ammunition and weaponry will be in good business here. That's why they are the ones who are questioned for creating war because of their businesses. We all know what country that is.
They are paid differently, it's either power or like a loan shark that will topple the economy of the country who participate in war for years. Debt is a powerful weapon now. You can even control one country or city just because of it.
Economic progression will definitely slow down before they can stand on their own again.
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This is what war brings. War brings nothing but devastation and destruction to the economy and infrastructure as well as to people on both sides of the war. Looking at the current Ukrainian-Russian war, you find that everyone is a loser. Russia is destroying its economy little by little because of the war and the economic blockade. Ukraine is being destroyed militarily and losing its resources. Europe is also suffering. From fuel shortages and high prices due to the Russian blockade and the interruption of fuel supplies. There is no winner in war.
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The global recession was coming even without the war in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine will simply accelerate the whole process.
There's nothing we can do to stop the war. Russia is mobilizing approximately 300K men, so this war is going to continue in the next year or two. A good thing is that the global recession might push the oil prices down, which might help the western and Asian economies a little bit.
Russia is building a wartime economy, which seems like an experiment that would fail in the long run, despite the massive abundance of natural resources. Putin doesn't care about the economic growth of Russia.
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No economic movement on countries affected equals a total economic disturbance to the countries affected this is why government should think more harder because this decision will not really create any huge benefits to them and its just a waste of human lives and resources since for sure on this current state where many countries form an alliance for sure those country initiate a war will be put more on huge economical decline.
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...There are many negative effect of war but no profit...[/url]

I probably read all of the wars that are written in the books. And it is actually all about profit, either by land, power, religion, and ethnicity. Wars may be costly of course but those involved especially the aggressor calculated it already and made sure that it is all worth it.

So let's talk about the example which is the current Russian invasion of Ukraine. Do we really think Putin and his cabinets didn't expect heavy sanctions and losses coming? Of course, they analyzed as many possible outcomes. Russia believes that it is worth it to invade Ukraine in order to strengthen its position in the country and the possibility of stopping it from joining NATO. If Ukraine joins NATO then there is a high possibility that nukes will be installed. Crimea a part of Ukraine that was taken earlier by Russia has been a big naval base of the Russian navy since the old times and it will be in danger if Ukraine joins NATO.

Although Russia didn't expect the war to prolong I think it will end with the aggressor holding big Crimea and the rebel regions of Luhansk and Donetsk in the east. There are only over 200 million Russians and its vast lands are rich enough for them to recover its economic losses in the coming years.

I am not saying that I am a pro-Russian invasion here. I believe wars should be prevented at all costs. But as a long-time history and current events follower, I can see the Russian point of view.
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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.

I fully support your words. All the finances spent on maintaining wars could be directed in a peaceful direction, to help poor countries that barely survive from hunger and lack of water. 
But none of the wars starts from scratch; it is always beneficial to those who pump millions into weapons production. And the actions of rulers who can influence the world with diplomatic relations between countries are always correct. But unfortunately, in our time, there are no such rulers who could act for the people, not for the country's prestige.
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during the war in Syria, the country had not recover since. the cities that once flourished to be abundant with economic activity died. same with all the wars that happened before Russia and Ukraine. Iraq up to this day had not come back to its fullest despite the years have past.

Ukraine had gotten lots of support which they can fight back. But the countries like Syria, Yugoslavia and etc. the economy of these countries also died. my father was one of those who go home devastated by the war. Its why his stories sinked in my mind.
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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.
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when there is an issue of war, there is already anxiety for the state and civilians so as to make economic changes that can be felt by several neighboring and cooperating countries, while the most disadvantaged if a war does occur are civilians whose economy and life are not guaranteed.
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And what is certain from the occurrence of war is that more people or countries will be harmed than benefited.
either the country that won the war or the loser. both sides suffer losses. both in terms of economy and the lives or lives of soldiers and civilians.
and we can see the impact of the war russia and ukraine. today we know the impact of the economic crisis has occurred in many countries. especially Europe which has a shortage of energy. and in some countries that also lack food such as wheat and others.
the beneficiary will always be there. but not much.
Recession is now unavoidable as a result of prolonged inflation after the post-pandemic and added to the impact of war. there will be major changes in the economy from now on, either in a negative or a positive way.
legendary
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There are men who pretend to be nice to women. Who change the second they get married and their wife depends on them. Its the same with nations and politics. Russia pretends to be nice to europe to get them dependent. Then the second they're dependent on russia. Russia turns into the evil husband who only pretended to be nice.

Being reliant and dependent upon others creates avenues for oppression.

If people desire to be free of these negative cycles and trends. They might set a goal for becoming as independent as possible. Never relying on corporations or foreign powers for anything.

Being independent grants people greater bargaining power and political influence. These are the things people need, if their opinion and values are to matter in the world.
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War is not good at all even if this makes money for other businesses but overall, many will be affected by the war. The sanctions against Russia affects many countries but that’s ok because that only means those countries are against any war and they will never tolerate such greediness. Though other people will suffer because of high prices but I guess it’s ok to deal with that than to see people dying because of the war. This should be stopped but I guess Russia is not showing any mercy against Ukraine, this is too bad.
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There are no miracles in war both in the non-physical and physical, all tendencies to anger the ruler can bring down the economy in two countries. death and death were the headlines in war, so if one concluded this was something of a miracle it was quite a fatal mistake. like israel and palestine we will never hear of these two countries progressing in the economic sector in the context on the basis of wars that have occurred in a long period of time there is only death and death. The occurrence of war in the two countries is nothing but based on violence in the struggle for power.
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After the war of Russia and Ukraine,their is no world war proclamations due the economy.No country including United States are not ready to get into the war.If the United States had get into the war,it surely affected the economy of country involved in war.And United States,Canada are giving grands to Ukrainian and support them indirectly.And they are not ready to get into the war as in old war strategy during the Cold War time.
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There is also an economical impact on the taxation as well, many governments tax people a lot more, and spend a lot more on military, even if they are not involved, just so they could be ready in case anything happens, and that is not really acceptable. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that you are not part of this at all, doesn't make sense to me, just leave it all together and let's not fight.

There are two sides who wants different things? Just sit them on a table, and let them hash it out by talking, even getting angry at times, but somehow figure out a method without killing a single person, a much better outcome.
A friend of mine recounted an ordeal at his workplace, in which, fighting between colleagues cost them their jobs. War is expensive, in whatever form it comes and as such it must be avoided.
Although most cases require that both parties throw a few punches to buttress a point, with modernization and the ability for disagreeing parties to sit together and reach a compromise, it shouldn't resort to tearing down infrastructures or taking lives before listening ears interfere to prevent a breakdown of economic and political order.
Ukraine vs Russia war is impacting the global economy in almost all facets, in that wheat, coal, gas, and other tradable necessities available, is now scarce or unavailable or the price has skyrocketed so much so that it can't be afforded. Going to war alters the economic progression of the state(s) involved.  Peace is the only solution to economic stability and growth.
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