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Topic: Going to war means let's ulter the economic progression - page 7. (Read 1432 times)

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Obviously the whole supply chain stops or gets hampered with the war. With the live example of Russia, Ukraine different countries taking different sides, getting sanctions imposed and thus stopping the import export businesses all over the world is nothing but loss for the economy. Moreover, for every life that’s taken in the war we loose huge amount of asset for that country! A life has no price tag, because it’s priceless so it’s but obvious that everything gets disturbed. The whole family, their life circle resets, they need to regrow and settle.  It takes time and we already know how hard life is to have average lifestyle in the current inflation and it’s growing.
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Yes. But a country whose main product is ammunition and weaponry will be in good business here. That's why they are the ones who are questioned for creating war because of their businesses. We all know what country that is.
They are paid differently, it's either power or like a loan shark that will topple the economy of the country who participate in war for years. Debt is a powerful weapon now. You can even control one country or city just because of it.
Economic progression will definitely slow down before they can stand on their own again.
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This is what war brings. War brings nothing but devastation and destruction to the economy and infrastructure as well as to people on both sides of the war. Looking at the current Ukrainian-Russian war, you find that everyone is a loser. Russia is destroying its economy little by little because of the war and the economic blockade. Ukraine is being destroyed militarily and losing its resources. Europe is also suffering. From fuel shortages and high prices due to the Russian blockade and the interruption of fuel supplies. There is no winner in war.
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The global recession was coming even without the war in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine will simply accelerate the whole process.
There's nothing we can do to stop the war. Russia is mobilizing approximately 300K men, so this war is going to continue in the next year or two. A good thing is that the global recession might push the oil prices down, which might help the western and Asian economies a little bit.
Russia is building a wartime economy, which seems like an experiment that would fail in the long run, despite the massive abundance of natural resources. Putin doesn't care about the economic growth of Russia.
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No economic movement on countries affected equals a total economic disturbance to the countries affected this is why government should think more harder because this decision will not really create any huge benefits to them and its just a waste of human lives and resources since for sure on this current state where many countries form an alliance for sure those country initiate a war will be put more on huge economical decline.
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...There are many negative effect of war but no profit...[/url]

I probably read all of the wars that are written in the books. And it is actually all about profit, either by land, power, religion, and ethnicity. Wars may be costly of course but those involved especially the aggressor calculated it already and made sure that it is all worth it.

So let's talk about the example which is the current Russian invasion of Ukraine. Do we really think Putin and his cabinets didn't expect heavy sanctions and losses coming? Of course, they analyzed as many possible outcomes. Russia believes that it is worth it to invade Ukraine in order to strengthen its position in the country and the possibility of stopping it from joining NATO. If Ukraine joins NATO then there is a high possibility that nukes will be installed. Crimea a part of Ukraine that was taken earlier by Russia has been a big naval base of the Russian navy since the old times and it will be in danger if Ukraine joins NATO.

Although Russia didn't expect the war to prolong I think it will end with the aggressor holding big Crimea and the rebel regions of Luhansk and Donetsk in the east. There are only over 200 million Russians and its vast lands are rich enough for them to recover its economic losses in the coming years.

I am not saying that I am a pro-Russian invasion here. I believe wars should be prevented at all costs. But as a long-time history and current events follower, I can see the Russian point of view.
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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.

I fully support your words. All the finances spent on maintaining wars could be directed in a peaceful direction, to help poor countries that barely survive from hunger and lack of water. 
But none of the wars starts from scratch; it is always beneficial to those who pump millions into weapons production. And the actions of rulers who can influence the world with diplomatic relations between countries are always correct. But unfortunately, in our time, there are no such rulers who could act for the people, not for the country's prestige.
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during the war in Syria, the country had not recover since. the cities that once flourished to be abundant with economic activity died. same with all the wars that happened before Russia and Ukraine. Iraq up to this day had not come back to its fullest despite the years have past.

Ukraine had gotten lots of support which they can fight back. But the countries like Syria, Yugoslavia and etc. the economy of these countries also died. my father was one of those who go home devastated by the war. Its why his stories sinked in my mind.
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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.
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when there is an issue of war, there is already anxiety for the state and civilians so as to make economic changes that can be felt by several neighboring and cooperating countries, while the most disadvantaged if a war does occur are civilians whose economy and life are not guaranteed.
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And what is certain from the occurrence of war is that more people or countries will be harmed than benefited.
either the country that won the war or the loser. both sides suffer losses. both in terms of economy and the lives or lives of soldiers and civilians.
and we can see the impact of the war russia and ukraine. today we know the impact of the economic crisis has occurred in many countries. especially Europe which has a shortage of energy. and in some countries that also lack food such as wheat and others.
the beneficiary will always be there. but not much.
Recession is now unavoidable as a result of prolonged inflation after the post-pandemic and added to the impact of war. there will be major changes in the economy from now on, either in a negative or a positive way.
legendary
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There are men who pretend to be nice to women. Who change the second they get married and their wife depends on them. Its the same with nations and politics. Russia pretends to be nice to europe to get them dependent. Then the second they're dependent on russia. Russia turns into the evil husband who only pretended to be nice.

Being reliant and dependent upon others creates avenues for oppression.

If people desire to be free of these negative cycles and trends. They might set a goal for becoming as independent as possible. Never relying on corporations or foreign powers for anything.

Being independent grants people greater bargaining power and political influence. These are the things people need, if their opinion and values are to matter in the world.
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War is not good at all even if this makes money for other businesses but overall, many will be affected by the war. The sanctions against Russia affects many countries but that’s ok because that only means those countries are against any war and they will never tolerate such greediness. Though other people will suffer because of high prices but I guess it’s ok to deal with that than to see people dying because of the war. This should be stopped but I guess Russia is not showing any mercy against Ukraine, this is too bad.
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There are no miracles in war both in the non-physical and physical, all tendencies to anger the ruler can bring down the economy in two countries. death and death were the headlines in war, so if one concluded this was something of a miracle it was quite a fatal mistake. like israel and palestine we will never hear of these two countries progressing in the economic sector in the context on the basis of wars that have occurred in a long period of time there is only death and death. The occurrence of war in the two countries is nothing but based on violence in the struggle for power.
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After the war of Russia and Ukraine,their is no world war proclamations due the economy.No country including United States are not ready to get into the war.If the United States had get into the war,it surely affected the economy of country involved in war.And United States,Canada are giving grands to Ukrainian and support them indirectly.And they are not ready to get into the war as in old war strategy during the Cold War time.
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There is also an economical impact on the taxation as well, many governments tax people a lot more, and spend a lot more on military, even if they are not involved, just so they could be ready in case anything happens, and that is not really acceptable. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that you are not part of this at all, doesn't make sense to me, just leave it all together and let's not fight.

There are two sides who wants different things? Just sit them on a table, and let them hash it out by talking, even getting angry at times, but somehow figure out a method without killing a single person, a much better outcome.
A friend of mine recounted an ordeal at his workplace, in which, fighting between colleagues cost them their jobs. War is expensive, in whatever form it comes and as such it must be avoided.
Although most cases require that both parties throw a few punches to buttress a point, with modernization and the ability for disagreeing parties to sit together and reach a compromise, it shouldn't resort to tearing down infrastructures or taking lives before listening ears interfere to prevent a breakdown of economic and political order.
Ukraine vs Russia war is impacting the global economy in almost all facets, in that wheat, coal, gas, and other tradable necessities available, is now scarce or unavailable or the price has skyrocketed so much so that it can't be afforded. Going to war alters the economic progression of the state(s) involved.  Peace is the only solution to economic stability and growth.
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It is clear that war has a negative effect on economies, both on a local and global scale.
Rising inflation, food insecurity, and environmental degradation are just some of the ways in which war can take a toll on a country. While there may be some short-term benefits to going to war, in the long run, it is clear that the costs far outweigh the benefits.

Countries would be wise to invest in peacekeeping and diplomacy in order to avoid the devastating effects of war.

But one can easily provide a counter-argument like how war can spur innovation and economic growth. Additionally, war can create new markets for goods and services. Finally, war can lead to the consolidation of power by the victorious party, which can in turn lead to increased stability and prosperity.  Just look at how much industrial and technological growth we saw during the World wars and cold war Cheesy

It's a very hot topic.
legendary
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It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.
You are spot on here, such effects would only be noticable if that country has a global export which other countries depend on. There are lots of wars which go unoticed by the general public, cause it doesn't have any rebound effects on the rest of the world.

Russia and Ukraine are two heavy exporting nations, contributing to economies on different economies, reasons why the war is so pronounced.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
Environmental degradation is also a major effect. Up there is also the displacement of citizens who now become refugges in other regions, depending on their economy.

The only benefit of war is selfish interest. A nation seeking to expand its empire or build one, would go about conquering viable nations to further their course.
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There is also an economical impact on the taxation as well, many governments tax people a lot more, and spend a lot more on military, even if they are not involved, just so they could be ready in case anything happens, and that is not really acceptable. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that you are not part of this at all, doesn't make sense to me, just leave it all together and let's not fight.

There are two sides who wants different things? Just sit them on a table, and let them hash it out by talking, even getting angry at times, but somehow figure out a method by without killing a single person, much better outcome.
legendary
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War has been part of the world since the beginning of time. Its been a way through which civilizations are carved. A way to attain a lasting piece as it is served, out of the ashes, life is birth. Its something we all hope to avoid but it happens anyway and rarely.

The war between Russia and Ukraine is regrettably and it has lasted more than most of us would have hoped or estimated that it did but, we should be rest assured that its going to bring a lasting peace between both nations even though individuals will still hold on to there grievances.

A little backward might bring about a galloping forward match to a better civilization, a correction towards most of the ills and its would be one that is won out of pain.
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