Topic: Going to war means let's ulter the economic progression - page 5. (Read 1432 times)

The current deplorable situation with peace on our planet and the ability of strong states to attack weaker ones arose due to the fact that international institutions, such as the UN, ceased to fulfill their direct functions and become simply useless, capable only of expressing concern and strong concern.

Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if it had known that civilized countries, and above all the UN, would immediately take effective measures to pacify the aggressor. Russia previously attacked Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine in 2014 and there was no proper reaction from the world community. Therefore, Putin went further, leaving in February last year almost 200,000 of his troops, thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, and other military equipment to seize the territory of Ukraine. He miscalculated only that the Ukrainians would put up a worthy resistance, and only thanks to this, her support gradually began. In the first days of this war, everyone resigned themselves to the fact that Ukraine would be occupied by Russia in a few days, and therefore there was no need for her to help.

Now the aggressor country Russia presides over the UN Security Council, which is sheer absurdity. Moreover, Russia is self-proclaimed in the UN, it has never been accepted as a member of the UN and there has never been a vote for this. After the collapse of the USSR, the representative of Russia only stated that Russia would be the successor to the USSR, but the UN did not take any decision on this matter.

Beneficial in a sense that they don't need to spent for weapons and other war related expenses but not beneficial in general because when there are wars happening in other countries, other countries are experiencing economic problems. Like for example on the last Russia and Ukraine war, the prices of the oil and other goods are rising heavily.

Anti-war movement is needed. Not only that it will combat the issues in the economy but it can also save a lot of lives. Unfortunately some countries won't join a movement like that because they are war hungry. They think they are strong enough to dominate the other countries. Some countries are only forced to prepare for a possible spark of war.

It's like totally lame that wars are still a thing, you know? The way they mess up economies and societies is like, seriously devastating. After a war, we see all kinds of messed up stuff, like prices going way up, people struggling with poverty and hunger, and it's not just in the countries that were in the war, it's all over the globe. Check out Ukraine and Russia, bro. Their lack of fossil fuels is jacking up prices for everyone in Europe. Plus, wars are mega bad for the environment, making food shortages even worse.

War sucks and all, but there's hope, ya know? Lots of countries are trying to get along and thanks to fancy tech, we can stop fights before they even start. Plus, when countries do fight, they can come together and rebuild with help from everyone else. Yeah, it's hard to balance the money, but governments need to put peace first and invest in tech that can prevent wars. Let's celebrate the progress we've made towards global peace, but we can't get complacent. We gotta keep working together, like a bunch of homies, to make sure everyone can have a chill and dope future.

The problem is why other countries have to join the war too? What are the basic obstacles that make other countries also have to go to war, even though as many people know that going to war is not a good solution in terms of solving problems and instead it triggers to create more new problems that can cause a country's economy be destroyed when lost in battle. So I don't think that every country wants to go to war for no good reason at this point.

High tension and tension between countries at this time can be a threat of war, in almost many countries the potential for war can occur, so that it will make the economy experience difficult times or recession like the end of world war 2, especially now that the war between Ukraine vs Russia continues to grow and become a threat for other countries to join the war.

No one would have thought that in the 21st century there would be an idiot at the head of state who would send the country's troops to conquer a neighboring friendly state, while the population of this country as a whole would be happy to kill, rob, rape and torture people in the occupied territories. Putin and his entourage planned to divide the conquered inhabitants of Ukraine into five categories: some would be subject to complete destruction, others deported to remote depressed regions of Russia. Those who went out to protest were planned to inflict maximum injury, and the survivors were thrown into prisons. To do this until the Ukrainians would forget about their nationality. This is the future these Nazis were preparing for Ukraine and allegedly went to Ukraine to destroy Nazism.

That is why there can be no negotiations now until the complete annihilation of the invaders. Any concessions and a truce will be used by Russia to gather new forces and continue to continue as planned. Europe and the United States have already understood this, and therefore Ukraine is being given all possible assistance in its struggle for its freedom and independence.

When it comes to conflict, its effects extend beyond only the economy to individual lives as well. Damage to infrastructure, a decline in individuals of working age, inflation, scarcity, ambiguity, a rise in debt, and disruptions to regular economic activity are all potential results. And when it comes to infrastructure, a lot of people have been displaced, looking at Russia, Ukraine's economy, and the social lives of its population, looking at Russia when it comes to oil, other countries are already taking advantage of the possibility to supply oil to other countries, all Russia care about now is the war.

Economic progression would be stopped for sure simply because everyone in those countries to ve involved would forcus more on surviving than to strive for the betterment of an economy. For sure there would be a recovery phase after the war but expect that it would be long enough for people to handle it with extra efforts. This is also why many countries are disengaging with war talks because it won't yield to anything positive for countries; Manpower, wealth of a country and broken relationships between countries involved in the war. This would also mean prices of imported marketable goods could either go up or down. This is also why there are alliances eixting.

Isn't it just sad that when you think about it, most of the reasons for war are simple and can easily be prevented but at the same time is also too difficult to stop? I mean, lower your ego, don't be too greedy, proving superiority over others isn't what the world needs right now, do not distinguish between allied and enemy countries when helping those in need, etc,. etc. There are things that can be done to stop all this madness but at the same time also impossible due to the stubborn human nature that most of the people can't control well especially those that are drunk on power and deluded principles or false/wrong planted patriotism. For simple people like us, we can only accept the reality of how unfixable this world has become already. Sigh, I pity the future generations, I really do.

even the Chinese currency (Yuan) has now been used in international trade by several countries. which shows China's current economic strength almost rivals the US. even China is now forming trade alliances with several countries that also have the goal of not being too dependent on the US Dollar. so trades are conducted in terms of money respectively or in yuan. currently joining the alliance include Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Russia, India and several countries from Central Asia.

even France has started trading with China by using the Chinese yuan currency, namely to purchase 65 thousand tons of liquefied natural gas. (Sourch) I think the global economy is starting to have a shift towards Asia right now. Dollar dominance could even weaken if this continues.

There is a theory that war is beneficial to those countries that do not participate in it.  Especially if they carry out the supply of weapons and other resources to the warring parties. 

Usually destructive wars sober up people, people begin to strive for peace and avoid starting hostilities.  So in the last century there was a powerful anti-war movement in the world, no one wanted a repeat of World War II and the massive use of nuclear weapons. 

When the US authorities began deploying Pershing missiles in Western Europe, many Europeans took to anti-war demonstrations.  And then Mikhail Gorbachev came to power in the USSR and proposed a policy of disarmament...

However, now there is no mass anti-war movement in the world at all.  And all people, in principle, resigned themselves to the possibility of war with the use of nuclear weapons.  And it's very bad.

The economic war is now increasingly massive, many countries have emerged with powerful new economic powers, in the past China was a weak country which was used as the object of marketing from many countries, now the opposite is happening, China has turned into a strong industrial country and almost all Chinese products are spread and dominate the world .

Today, April 4, 2023, Finland officially became the 31st state that is part of the NATO military-political bloc. The announcement was made by US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken at the document exchange ceremony between Finland and the Alliance.

What Putin most feared happened - Russia gained about 1,300 more kilometers of direct border with the NATO country that is Finland. Before the entry of this country into NATO, the total length of the land borders of the Russian Federation with the countries of the alliance (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Norway) was about 1260 kilometers. Thus, the total length of Russia's land border with NATO members is already more than 2,500 kilometers. Now we can say with confidence that the border between Ukraine and Russia will be added to this border, which is 2295 km, including the length of the sea part - 321 km, the land part - 1974 km.
Thus, Putin achieved the exact opposite effect.

I, as a citizen of Ukraine, whose relatives live in Russia, will tell you what war is, in relation to our situation.
The reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine will be left to the international war crimes court. And it will probably be considered by psychiatrists - to be such a clinical idiot as Putin, this is possibly a new mental illness.

This war is definitely destroying Ukraine. Economy, cities, lives, families, happiness, future. We will restore the economy and cities, because restoring them is only a matter of time and money. But lives, families and happiness will never be restored This is the strongest psychological trauma for hundreds of thousands of people. For millions more, this is also a strong stress, because many had to leave the country, leaving their fathers, husbands or sons here, who remained to defend their homeland from the terrorist attack of Russia.

But for the country that attacked Ukraine, this is a complete and irreversible degradation. The fact that they are sent to the front precisely in the form of cannon fodder is no longer a secret to anyone. Already the inhabitants of Russia themselves, who got to the front, squeal that they were thrown to the slaughter. BUT, they are also cowardly silent and do nothing, wildly afraid to raise their voice against the POWER. This is typical slave behavior - between life and death is NOTHING, they choose death for the sake of not opposing power. At the same time, Russia's able-bodied, productive population is being destroyed. Now more than 200,000 Russians have already died (this is taking into account gangs such as Wagner PMCs and other illegal criminal groups), more than 300,000 Russians are disabled with severe injuries.
The economy is collapsing, the army is degrading, the population is dying out. All means are thrown at the satisfaction of Putin's insane complexes. There is no money for medicine, education, social programs in Russia! And it won't, because sanctions can't be turned off like a light switch. And if the whole civilized world helps Ukraine, then no one will help Russia. And no one will support and feed Russia as it was in 1998. And even their "friends" such as China, India, Iran will simply tear apart the decrepit carcass, which they are already doing now, realizing that Russia has no future and it is necessary to quickly take away "its share" from the almost corpse of Russia ...

Human civilization has stepped into the 21st century. In front of us, thanks to the rapid development of new technologies and, in particular, the Internet, there are unique opportunities to unite and direct our common efforts towards the development of medicine, education, space exploration, improving the general level and life expectancy, and much more. But instead, Putin's Russia unleashed another, the largest and most brutal war in Europe after World War II to exterminate its neighbors in Ukraine and destroy peaceful cities, the infrastructure of Ukraine, and also causing enormous damage to the environment and its fertile black soil. Last year, 50-70 thousand shells per day were produced in the Donbass. Chernozems are filled with heavy metals and other compounds harmful to agriculture.

  Russia claims that it has come to Ukraine to protect the Russian-speaking population, but instead of protecting it, it primarily kills the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, which lives compactly in the Donbass region and, thanks to the use of the “fire shaft” tactics, destroys “liberated” settlements by 90-95 percent. The civilian population is physically destroyed for recognizing themselves as Ukrainians, as well as for discovering the attributes of the Ukrainian state. There should be no forgiveness for such crimes. At least for the next few generations. Russia, thanks to Ukraine's support from civilized states, will definitely be defeated in this war.

All the talk that Russia attacked Ukraine because it fears NATO expansion at its borders is Putin's nonsense and justification for seizing Ukrainian territories. This nonsense is completely broken even by the fact that already after the attack on Ukraine, Sweden and Finland became members of NATO and Russia received a direct border with NATO with a length of 1300 kilometers. And how did Russia react to it? After some threats, she calmed down, saying that they do not see an immediate threat from these states. But after all, we are talking about a single structure of NATO and there decisions are made from a single center.

Putin is a great strategist and calculated everything before the attack on Ukraine? Recently, Russia has been suffering colossal losses in Ukraine. In September alone, the Armed Forces of Ukraine liberated an area of ​​nine thousand square kilometers. Russia is waging war so incompetently that it has become the biggest sponsor for the Ukrainian army. Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Ukraine, according to documented data, has received almost 400 tanks, 700 armored vehicles and 170 artillery systems as trophies. This is more than all the largest partner countries of Ukraine supplied. Due to the fact that Putin directly leads his military and is guided primarily by political goals, the Russians at the front are now losing 400-500 people every day compared to 30-50 Ukrainians.
Today it became known about the completion of the encirclement of another large group of Russians in the area of ​​the city of Liman. This is in addition to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are systematically destroying an encircled large group of Russian troops numbering 20,000-25,000 people in the Kherson region, which are pressed against the Dnieper River, and all crossings are under heavy fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Russian cadre army is almost completely destroyed in Ukraine, so Putin announced the mobilization and hastily, without any preparation, throws mobilized and unprepared "live meat" into battle.

That’s the reality and yet the government still choose to go on a war and that could be for something. Russia won’t take that war if they are not into something, most probably they want something bigger. War is not good to humanity, every government should not pursue this at all cost because we can’t afford any world war again. I can’t imagine our country if there’s another war, probably we won’t survive.

that is very correct! no matter what they say, civilians are the most affected as they have no weapon to use. they are just depending on their soldiers to protect their lives. and then what? who will supply them their basic needs during this war? yes, their govt may give them some type of survival kit, but recovering their entire life would be on their own hands. there's no winner in every war, so to speak.

True, even if we were to give the benefit of the doubt and believe them when they say harming civilians is not their objective at the end it does not matter because that is what ends up happening anyway, civilians which have nothing to do with the war are the ones that suffer the most as they lose everything they have worked so hard for, and if those losses stopped at material possessions many could still accept it, but when we are talking about the the massive loss of human lives that is when war in any of its forms becomes completely unacceptable to most people.

Elections and power, that's basically where it comes down to. If a nation is going into war, that usually means either the ruler wants to win some elections, or if they have no elections that they care (like China or Russia) they are willing to just show their power to the world and that's it.

Ego is a good surname for power, like what Putin did, Ukraine wanted to join Europe, and Putin showed this as a chance to prove he is powerful and if he wants to he could stop it, which he is failing so far as we can see, which was expected, Russia doesn't have even remotely the power that west has, and even just supporting Ukraine they managed to blow them back, imagine what would happen if it was a direct war.