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Topic: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist - page 86. (Read 205816 times)

legendary
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Rasmussen is having Clinton at 46 and Paul at 39! That is a 7 point lead for Clinton. Rasmussen is slightly GOP-leaning... so I won't be calling it a good sign. But the latest polls from the Democrat-leaning Bloomberg has Clinton at 47 and Paul at 38. The gap is definitely narrowing.
legendary
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More Republicans Line Up With Rand Paul’s Foreign Policy Views
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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul might be onto something.

For all the hand-wringing about whether his foreign-policy views could disqualify him from winning the Republican presidential nomination, recent polls suggest his skepticism about foreign entanglements might not be quite so out of step with GOP voters.

As troubles mount overseas, the Republicans’ once-steadfast support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has crumbled since President Barack Obama was sworn in for a second term, according to the results of a June Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll and a related Journal/NBC/Annenberg Survey.

In the latest Journal poll of 1,000 adults, conducted June 11-15, 58% of the Republican respondents said the war in Afghanistan wasn’t worth it, compared with the 37% who said it was. That’s an abrupt shift from January 2013, when just 37% of Republicans said the war wasn’t worth it. The Annenberg survey conducted days later found similar erosion in views about Iraq.
More...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/07/03/more-republicans-line-up-with-rand-pauls-foreign-policy-views/
donator
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It'd be very interesting if Rand could tap into the military donation $#s Ron grabbed in '08, if only because there's a better chance the media'd run the story on how big the gap is, especially with national dismay over recent wars and now-unpopular views of competition.

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wait, are we talking about money donated by the military lobby? why is it a good thing that ron paul received all that money from them?

it seems that "military" stands for "military servicemen" and that obama received a lot from them too, so those numbers don't really mean shit.. plus, it's not even a million dollars, where you are having elections that rake in 1.6 billion.
Servicemen during mid Primary season. Wasn't meant as a bash against Obama since Dem Primary was clearly no contest fairly quick in, so no reason to solicit plebs for donations. Numbers are pretty relevant as it relates to views of servicemen (compared to other GOP candidates), though hard to determine sample size, maybe 2000-3000 donors with military background.
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It'd be very interesting if Rand could tap into the military donation $#s Ron grabbed in '08, if only because there's a better chance the media'd run the story on how big the gap is, especially with national dismay over recent wars and now-unpopular views of competition.



If he can grab that hard core group of followers his father had as well it would be a boost. I think they actually spooked the establishment a bit in the early primaries the last cycle.
legendary
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I don't understand what anyone is trying to accomplish by voting.

Same poop, different asshole.

I figure if a guy is to fuckin lazy to even vote then they probably don't do much else but sit around pissing an moaning about whatever.  I sometimes vote and sometimes do not.  Usually I do, but when I don't I don't whine about whoever won.  I didn't like any of the presidential candidates that ran in the last election enough to warrant even a spot of graphite.  I wrote in someone I would like to see as pres.  Elizabeth Warren in that case.  Normally there are other races and ballot measures that I feel interested enough it to vote.  BTW, in my district a few cycles ago the votes were like two (2) in favor of one presidential candidate over the other and the winner takes all.  Sparse population.

legendary
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well after serving you gain some perspective on what the military's role is in America: defense of commercial interests
I'd donate a few dollars to stop this if Ron Paul can. Others believe Obama will tone down military use
sr. member
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It'd be very interesting if Rand could tap into the military donation $#s Ron grabbed in '08, if only because there's a better chance the media'd run the story on how big the gap is, especially with national dismay over recent wars and now-unpopular views of competition.



wait, are we talking about money donated by the military lobby? why is it a good thing that ron paul received all that money from them?

it seems that "military" stands for "military servicemen" and that obama received a lot from them too, so those numbers don't really mean shit.. plus, it's not even a million dollars, where you are having elections that rake in 1.6 billion.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1015
It'd be very interesting if Rand could tap into the military donation $#s Ron grabbed in '08, if only because there's a better chance the media'd run the story on how big the gap is, especially with national dismay over recent wars and now-unpopular views of competition.

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1001
2016 poll: Hillary Clinton drops below 50% for first time; 'lackluster' book rollout blamed
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He called her book tour performance “lackluster,” one that has been plagued with missteps like when she described herself and her husband as "dead broke" upon leaving the White House. The comment drew attention to the tens of millions of dollars they have collected since leaving the White House.

Zogby also warned that since virtually every voter knows — and has an opinion of — Clinton, there isn’t much she can do to broaden her support.

“It is significant that in every case the runaway favorite again polls under 50 percent and that both Governor Bush and Senator Paul continue to increase their support among key groups. Clinton has almost universal name recognition among likely voters and it is unlikely that she could say or do anything to increase her support base,” said Zogby, who provides Secrets with his weekly report card on President Obama, published Saturday mornings.

In the matchups, Clinton now leads Bush, 47 percent to 35 percent. She once held an a 18-point advantage. Against Paul, she leads 48 percent to 36 percent, but once had a 21-point lead. And she would beat Christie 48 percent to 33 percent, but once led, 52 percent to 29 percent.


http://washingtonexaminer.com/2016-poll-hillary-clinton-drops-below-50-for-first-time-lackluster-book-rollout-blamed/article/2550305
legendary
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I don't understand what anyone is trying to accomplish by voting.

Same poop, different asshole.

word. the guys here seem very republican. i however can't get behind anyone.. they're all shit. and even if they are people who truly want to make a change, they can't be honest and get to the white house. what i see in red/blue people is that they start off with a position and then look for evidence that supports it. totally backwards to me.
I'd bet that most of the American politicos on here would've supported Ron Paul back in '08 and beyond, so we've seen what the blatantly honest/too much info/getting off in the weeds professorial stuff gets ya= goes over peoples' heads and lets media demagogue. At least Rand repackages the liberty message into a more populist way and it seems the republican base and Americans at large have shifted mindset in the last few years away from being scared that a terrorist is under every crevice or going to war willy nilly. That's a positive and the establishment isn't in full gear like they have been in the past. So, to say that anyone is looking for evidence to support anything here isn't what's happening. Rand is the premiere potential liberty candidate for President here bar none else that would have a chance. I'm trying to show to the Bitcoin community and any other remnant of the world what some of us here in Big Brotherland are trying to do, for ourselves and the rest of the world that is greatly affected by what goes on here or lack thereof. Hence, my showcase of his polling numbers and stuff about him.
sr. member
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I don't understand what anyone is trying to accomplish by voting.

Same poop, different asshole.

word. the guys here seem very republican. i however can't get behind anyone.. they're all shit. and even if they are people who truly want to make a change, they can't be honest and get to the white house. what i see in red/blue people is that they start off with a position and then look for evidence that supports it. totally backwards to me.
hero member
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I don't understand what anyone is trying to accomplish by voting.

Same poop, different asshole.
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★☆★Bitin.io★☆★
Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters
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BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

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http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
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A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.
Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.

We will need some good old-fashioned luck, even with a great candidate.
Hillary being to sick/old to run would be a good start, since she will be hard to beat in a general election.

Rumor has it that she has a heart valve issue that could be a factor. Not sure how true it is.

The thing that concerns me whether or not Paul can get through the primaries. The republican establishment is hard to overcome.
legendary
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GOP strategist: Labeling Rand Paul "isolationist" isn't going to work anymore 7 min clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-H6mWuW_3s
The host is an admitted socialist hack but it's interesting to see the GOP 'strategist' make his comments. Instead of using the isolationist term, I've begun to see others refer to Rand as a simpleton to see if that works.
legendary
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MSNBC: Is Rand Paul a new voting rights advocate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q5o2T-jE3g
Surprisingly, a fair segment on Rand from MSLSD. And I'm sure most of the lefties will agree but say he's only right twice a day or some idiotic cliche.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters
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BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

...
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
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A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.
Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.

We will need some good old-fashioned luck, even with a great candidate.
Hillary being to sick/old to run would be a good start, since she will be hard to beat in a general election.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1001
Rand Paul's recent comments are resonating with blacks, young voters
Quote
BY MERLENE DAVIS
June 23, 2014

Just when I'm about to push Republican Sen. Rand Paul into a round hole, he mutates into a triangle.

Over the weekend, the Tea Party's favorite son and Libertarian announced he would introduce a bill in Congress to restore the voting rights of nonviolent ex-felons. We all figured he would. He had voiced his support of that measure earlier this year.

That was when he was round.

Then, during that same weekend, Paul challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney's assertion that the mess in Iraq is President Barack Obama's fault. Paul has criticized Cheney's involvement in that war before, but not in defense of a Democratic president.

That was when Paul became a triangle.

Who is that man beneath the curly hair whose face is ever-present on TV? Is he a Tea Party champion, an advocate of individualism, or a man courting the voters who carried Obama into the White House?

...
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/06/23/3305923/merlene-davis-rand-pauls-recent.html
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A recent poll found that 29 percent of black people surveyed would vote for Paul. That's up 16 percent since his 2010 victory over Jack Conway for the senate seat.
Extrapolate that nationwide as more tune in and tell me that a republican that can pull those numbers can't win.
legendary
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Paul, Carson Are Now Hillary's Closest GOP Challengers
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Hillary Clinton earns 45% to 50% of the vote against six leading Republicans in potential 2016 presidential matchups, running best against Texans Rick Perry and Ted Cruz and poorest against Rand Paul and Dr. Ben Carson. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, once the GOP front-runner, now makes the weakest showing.

New Rasmussen Reports national telephone surveying of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Clinton leads Cruz, a U.S. senator and Tea Party stalwart, 50% to 37%. She holds a similar 50% to 36% lead over Perry, the Lone Star State governor who is expected to make a second run for the GOP nomination in 2016. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Paul, a Kentucky senator and another Tea Party favorite, and newcomer Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who’s a growing critic of the Obama administration, run just seven points behind Clinton. She bests Paul by a 46% to 39% margin and Carson 45% to 38%. Christie, on the other hand, now trails Clinton by 14 - 47% to 33%.

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Among Likely Republican Voters, Paul is the top vote-getter against Clinton with 79% support, followed by Cruz at 75% and Carson with 74%. Seventy-one percent (71%) of GOP voters favor Perry in a matchup with Clinton, while Rubio earns 68% support and Christie 66% among their fellow Republicans.

Among Likely Democratic Voters, Clinton earns 82% to 90% support against the six Republicans, running strongest against Cruz and Christie.

Voters not affiliated with either major political party are closely divided in all six matchups, with Clinton leading by two to six points against Rubio, Christie, Cruz and Perry. Paul and Carson both have a four-point edge over Clinton among these voters.
Fresh out today
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/paul_carson_are_now_hillary_s_closest_gop_challengers
And, since non affiliated voters is the biggest block and also the one that decides every Prez race, things are looking good so far. Just keep doing what he's been doing.
legendary
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How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

GOP is going downhill in Florida. Their main support group (Cubans) is getting marginalized there, along with the non-Hispanic whites. Even Rubio won't be able to attract much support from the non-white groups.

Nationwide, you may be correct, but residents of Florida love the both of them (overall, obviously not each individual resident). If not for term limits, Jeb would still be Governor of Florida. Rubio has support across all demographics down there.
In a national election, if it was a ticket of Rubio/Bush or Bush/Rubio, I do not see any scenario that they do not take Florida in a landslide.
The key numbers to keep in mind are the negative ratings that said candidates have w/i their own party. Large %s of republicans don't want another Bush and a similar group think Rubio is a fraud which he is. Rubio is so bent on carving himself out as the up and coming McCain but that part of the party has been fading in an avalanche via the grassroots.
hero member
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How do they not take Florida? I'd think they win in a landslide.

GOP is going downhill in Florida. Their main support group (Cubans) is getting marginalized there, along with the non-Hispanic whites. Even Rubio won't be able to attract much support from the non-white groups.

Nationwide, you may be correct, but residents of Florida love the both of them (overall, obviously not each individual resident). If not for term limits, Jeb would still be Governor of Florida. Rubio has support across all demographics down there.
In a national election, if it was a ticket of Rubio/Bush or Bush/Rubio, I do not see any scenario that they do not take Florida in a landslide.
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