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Topic: [GPL] Gold Pressed Latinum 2.8.1 - Hardfork 01 Feb 2017 (Read 44696 times)

legendary
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Both GPL2 and GPL Classic (GPL) are still doing well in calculated value, that is, the value per coin calculated by dividing the total value of their official "treasury" by the number of coins minted.

Of course the treasury-based coins also have "slush funds" and other possessions beyond the "reserve assets" that can be used in the official "treasuries", so in theory all the Galactic Milieu coins should be worth more than just their "calculated value".

GPL and GPL2 are however still among those coins that rely only upon the increasing values of the stuff in their treasuries and upon such profits as they manage to make by trading various assets trying to buy at bargain prices from people presumably attempting to "liquidate" assets towards planet Earth fiat and other situations where for whatever reason someone is selling something at less than its calculated value.

In other words the Ferengi are still not represented by active, productive players out there in the game-worlds harvesting and manufacturing or even warring to build up resources.

So it is maybe still an open question whether either band of Ferengi (those behind GPL and those behind GPL2) will continue to manage to build up the value of their "treasuries" faster than they mint new coins. So far they seem to have managed to do that, not so much thanks to their own efforts but more because most of the "reserve assets" in their "treasuries" have managed to keep going up in value.

See https://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html for tables and plots of assets values over time.

See https://makemoney.knotwork.com/ for lists of assets (including GPL and GPL2) on HORIZON and STELLAR platforms.


-MarkM-

member
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Hi. There any news for GPL?
legendary
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Is anyone interested in trading GPL2 (or GPL aka GPL Classic, which is a different thread) against Stellar Lumens (XLM) or DeVCoins (DVC) on the Stellar platform?

For GPL2 asset on Stellar platform see http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/gpl2/  ( Explorer: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/GPL2-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5 )

For DVC asset on Stellar platform see http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/dvc/  ( Explorer: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5 )

-MarkM-


hero member
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Fuck BlackRock
Long address for anonymous transactions. ( see novacoin topic )

fresh nodes:
Code:
addnode=scifi.bounceme.net:7790
addnode=69.118.192.65
addnode=64.71.72.56
addnode=54.36.19.164
addnode=51.15.130.151

Running on Windows 10 with 4 outbound connections. Thank you Smiley

Also - can you pm a link to novacoin topic?
hero member
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Nature decays, but Latinum lasts forever. RoA:102
Long address for anonymous transactions. ( see novacoin topic )

fresh nodes:
Code:
addnode=scifi.bounceme.net:7790
addnode=69.118.192.65
addnode=64.71.72.56
addnode=54.36.19.164
addnode=51.15.130.151
hero member
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Fuck BlackRock
Got a small about of what markm explains to be GPL2. Smiley

Probably the fastest I've ever received a coin in my wallet from Livecoin.net or any web exchange. Was as soon as I hit the button Smiley

Thanks mark Wink

- I bought a small amount because all the crypto and tokens I hold I like, but I leave the wallet running. Even if the value of 9 coins that I bought are not so high at the moment. I am a forward thinking guy with these old coins and OLD/NEW chains. I also like that it has Russian translations.

Makes sense to.

If you wanna send me some GPL2 to stake I'll keep my node running and coin staked to support this innovative code =)

GPL2: FFV6J66n6ebQAqfPuzuU7v4hNhBKAVycxL

(PS - anyone else's wallet 3.0.1 come with a long public key address beginning with a 5-?)

EDIT: Thanks for the generous anonymous donation! Smiley Running Gold Pressed Latinum exe right now Smiley - staying ON.

Code:
Status: 173 confirmations
Date: 10/2/2020 09:55
From: FTBuCHtQmo9igoGDQeyQW1foiRWRQbcFW7
To: FFV6J66n6ebQAqfPuzuU7v4hNhBKAVycxL (own address, label: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392930.400)
Credit: 110.1999 GPL
Net amount: +110.1999 GPL
Transaction ID: 710a7078bc65c4ecf66c807d517c6488862167a1c10c77da3490f3333f671a14

So I decided to buy more at Livecoin just now - Staking away Smiley
hero member
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Nature decays, but Latinum lasts forever. RoA:102
"Nature decays, but Latinum lasts forever. RoA:102"

Unless you missed the SWAP,   Wink

GPL have unlimited time for swap, just export private key in old wallet and import in new.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14149086
legendary
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Version 3 of GPL, known in some circles as GPL as distinct from the old version 2 which those circles refer to as GPL Classic, IS what we refer to as GPL2 since we still refer to "GPL Classic" as simply GPL.

I believe the Latest Rates should show how much BiTCoin ought to be acceptable in lieu of GPL or GPL2, but since BiTCoin changes value constantly obviously one cannot really rely on that file for current moment to moment prices. The Rates are calculated for "treasury" based coins whose relative value can be computed by adding up their "treasury" and dividing that total by the number of coins minted; for coins lacking a "treasury" the best that can be attempted is to show a rate based on some exchange or exchanges at the moment the file was generated, or a value compiled by CoinMarketCap or something along those lines.

In practice one usually finds that entities tend to accept things like BiTCoin, LiTeCoin, Lumens and such in lieu of the other coins but maybe not be looking to sell or spend such coins since such coins tend to vanish into limbo frequently because those are the kinds of coins one ends up having to use on typical web-based public "exchanges" to create and build the "buy sides" of one's coins, and such "exchanges" tend far too frequently to "fly by night" taking all the coins with them, including the coins used to build the "buy sides" which aggregators like CoinMarketCap tend to look at to come up with their ideas of what various coins are worth.

So basically things like BiTCoin, LiTeCoin and so on, things found on many public "exchanges" as the buy-side of many trading pairs, tend to be at a premium since everyone needs those to build their own coin's "buy sides" on such exchanges yet constantly keep losing them all as such exchanges pretend to be hacked (or, who knows, maybe some of them actually do get hacked?) and vanish with all those buy-side coins as well as whatever coin one is trying to build the buy-side of.

So most likely if you are looking for coins commonly found as the buy-side of many trading pairs on public "exchanges" you will tend to find most folks are looking to sell their coin for such coins rather than to buy their coin using such coins ... except on those "exchanges", where you will find that the more of a coin you are trying to "dump" the more you will tend to drive the price down.

Similarly on the "spot price" trading pairs on HORIZON and Stellar you will typically see a column of buy offers so that the more of a coin you want to dump the more you will drive the price down by dumping.

So the advantage of converting to the tokens used for such pairs on the platforms is you can put your sell offer in place and wait for a taker, instead of being a liquidity-destroyer by dumping onto buy offers.

I suppose to avoid tokens you could just try posting here how many GPL new style ("GPL2" in my nomenclature, "GPL" in Vampirus's, confusingly the code's release version is 3 somehing) or GPL classic style ("GPL" in my nomenclature, "GPLC" in Vampirus's, confusingly the code's release version is 2 something) you want to sell for how many of what and wait for a taker to take you up on your offer.

-MarkM-
sr. member
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Possibly. Traxo has provided a cool tool that can re-arrange the Latest Rates include file in various ways, such as to show how many of each of the other things one GPL2 coin is worth according to the Latest Rates:

https://latestrates.traxo.me/?from=GPL2&to=GPL

It also allows you to provide a Latest Rates file of your own for it to work from.

I usually at home like to re-cast the Rates the opposite way myself, that is, in this case, to show everything else's price-in-GPL2; but I am not sure Traxo's tool provides that approach.

-MarkM-



Hi Mark,
Just had a look at interstellar thingy. Unless i am wrong, KYC is required, so thats a complete none started, also it seems to be suggesting, that i could get 0.02BTC for 100 GPL2 coins, but no reference to GPL3 coins. (also there seems to be zero trade history, so no idea where the prices come from, thin air?)

Like i say all together way to troublesome....that said, do you have any idea what GPL2 and GPL3 coins are going for in BTC?
I'm petty sure i have about 100 GPL2 coins to trade if you or anyone wants to buy. (i'll check my GPL3 too, but seem to have lost the wallet temporarily)
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090

Possibly. Traxo has provided a cool tool that can re-arrange the Latest Rates include file in various ways, such as to show how many of each of the other things one GPL2 coin is worth according to the Latest Rates:

https://latestrates.traxo.me/?from=GPL2&to=GPL

It also allows you to provide a Latest Rates file of your own for it to work from.

I usually at home like to re-cast the Rates the opposite way myself, that is, in this case, to show everything else's price-in-GPL2; but I am not sure Traxo's tool provides that approach.

-MarkM-

sr. member
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If you are familiar with Stellar, which is very much like Ripple, it should be fairly obvious.

If not maybe it is best to start by getting familiar with Stellar.

Basically we simply use Stellar tokens to represent various coins, and Stellar lets any token trade against any other token.

Probably the best way to arrange to turn coins on the blockchain into tokens and vice-versa is to contact me ("knotwork") on the Keybase end to end encrypted chat system, which can be very handy for this kind of thing due to including a Stellar wallet right in the app.

Mind you, last I checked it seemed like the Stellar wallet included in the Keybase chat app did not let you set up arbitrary "trust lines", so likely in order to use our GPL and GPL2 tokens in that wallet you'd need to first use one of the several other Stellar wallets that are available to initially set up the trust lines for whatever Stellar account you use with the wallet that is in Keybase.

Once you have set up the trust lines though, the Stellar wallet inside Keybase seems to work fine.

Other wallets though are probably good to have too if you want to get into trading on the markets as I do not recall the Keybase wallet really providing that or if it does maybe not in as sphisticated a way as some of the other wallets that are available for the Stellar platform.

See Stellar.org for lists of current wallets.

-MarkM-


Hi Mark,
Thank for coming back to me.
I'll look into it tomorrow when i get chance, BUT to be quite honest sounds like a load of hard work for nothing....
No way i am messing around with "secure chats" and all that crap...
Can't see any future for any coin that is so faffy...like most miners i suspect, i simply want to mine, and trade with the least amount of fuss... you know, like the vast majority of the 2500 other coins out their (tongue in cheek).

Besides, when did GPL change from being a good old style coin, into a token, cos i hate tokens, always have, always will.
maybe i need to just go back to GPL2 and get it listed on an exchange...

Or, perhaps i could just sell you my coins?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090

If you are familiar with Stellar, which is very much like Ripple, it should be fairly obvious.

If not maybe it is best to start by getting familiar with Stellar.

Basically we simply use Stellar tokens to represent various coins, and Stellar lets any token trade against any other token.

Probably the best way to arrange to turn coins on the blockchain into tokens and vice-versa is to contact me ("knotwork") on the Keybase end to end encrypted chat system, which can be very handy for this kind of thing due to including a Stellar wallet right in the app.

Mind you, last I checked it seemed like the Stellar wallet included in the Keybase chat app did not let you set up arbitrary "trust lines", so likely in order to use our GPL and GPL2 tokens in that wallet you'd need to first use one of the several other Stellar wallets that are available to initially set up the trust lines for whatever Stellar account you use with the wallet that is in Keybase.

Once you have set up the trust lines though, the Stellar wallet inside Keybase seems to work fine.

Other wallets though are probably good to have too if you want to get into trading on the markets as I do not recall the Keybase wallet really providing that or if it does maybe not in as sphisticated a way as some of the other wallets that are available for the Stellar platform.

See Stellar.org for lists of current wallets.

-MarkM-

sr. member
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Even if you missed the swap, GPL Classic is still running so you still have your GPL; all you missed out on as this newfangled GPL2 stuff...

...And you can trade between the two on the Stellar platform if you like, since on Stellar any asses can be traded against any other asset. Smiley

See http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/

-MarkM-


Hi, tried that link, what does it mean?
How can you trade please?
legendary
Activity: 2940
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Even if you missed the swap, GPL Classic is still running so you still have your GPL; all you missed out on is this newfangled GPL2 stuff...

...And you can trade between the two on the Stellar platform if you like, since on Stellar any asses can be traded against any other asset. Smiley

See http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/

-MarkM-
member
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"Nature decays, but Latinum lasts forever. RoA:102"

Unless you missed the SWAP,   Wink
hero member
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Nature decays, but Latinum lasts forever. RoA:102
Hi, is this account correct and do you really have Airdrop?
https://mobile.twitter.com/GPL_Core

It is not me. I think someone from community want help with GPL promotion.
newbie
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Hi, is this account correct and do you really have Airdrop?
https://mobile.twitter.com/GPL_Core
newbie
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In old PoW GPL chain if was no blocks in last 2 Hours, new block not accepted anymore and you need restart wallet.
Or you may use stratum server, in this case you no need restart wallet. I just try and create new block.

For PoS minting you must have 1 years old coins (for old coins, then 180 days for coins generated after last fork) minimum 2 connections and enabled PoS in GUI wallet.
For daemon in Linux use command: setstaking true.

When was the fork that changed the time to 180 days?  I have coins I obtained in mid-2017 that weren't moved to a wallet until shortly before the Cryptopia delisting and I have no options for staking, I'm trying to determine if this is due to age or the wallet settings. 

Nevermind, the wallet suddenly started staking automatically after a few months. 
newbie
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In old PoW GPL chain if was no blocks in last 2 Hours, new block not accepted anymore and you need restart wallet.
Or you may use stratum server, in this case you no need restart wallet. I just try and create new block.

For PoS minting you must have 1 years old coins (for old coins, then 180 days for coins generated after last fork) minimum 2 connections and enabled PoS in GUI wallet.
For daemon in Linux use command: setstaking true.

When was the fork that changed the time to 180 days?  I have coins I obtained in mid-2017 that weren't moved to a wallet until shortly before the Cryptopia delisting and I have no options for staking, I'm trying to determine if this is due to age or the wallet settings. 
legendary
Activity: 2940
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GPL2 is now part of the Galactic Milieu game.

Since trying to use "exchanges" to "discover" the values of game-currencies has proven a very awkward and unreliable process, we prefer to divide a "treasury" by the number of coins minted to arrive at a value. So for the last few years various groups wanting to adopt a currency as their national currency or clan currency or species currency or whatever in the game have been quietly putting together "treasuries" of "reserves" toward that purpose. Lately a number of these treasuries have been put into use.

Thus here are the Latest Rates values of many of the Galactic Milieu's coins and assets, expressed in GPL2 at that calculated value of a GPL2 coin:

BBQrate=.00001703
sBCErate=17.18232885
sBCIrate=2.37077589
sBMCrate=2.46828442
sBRFrate=2.75305503
BTCrate=7500.70933772
CDNrate=1.65483911
CLCrate=.00146071
sCMCrate=2.42118197
sCRFrate=49.55155258
CZBrate=.01068699
DVCrate=.00013700
sDVCrate=111.92300287
FBXrate=.00535377
sGDCrate=118.21031140
sGFCrate=421.74136321
sGHCrate=30.23344301
GMCrate=2.30661154
GPLrate=1.27466666
GPL2rate=1.00000000
sGRCrate=130.29935350
GRFrate=3.70154625
GRPrate=.01449755
sGRPrate=.59427510
I0Crate=.05500044
IXCrate=.05591543
LTCrate=50.22474972
MBCrate=3.15257861
NKLrate=.05777601
NMCrate=.52377453
SPICErate=1.32489470
TBXrate=.00535377
UFCrate=.00141121
UKBrate=1.55892587
UNSrate=1.64454725
USFrate=.00058394
XGGrate=.00334544

-MarkM-
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