[Group Buy] Avalon ASIC Chips (SebastianJu) Batch 6 ordered (Closed) - page 15.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 04:52:06 PM

Though batch 6 cant be refunded anyway.

Isn't this changed tonight? Yifu posted this:

Quote from: BitSyncom on August 31, 2013, 07:01:05 PM

Here's the new deal,

The form will extend to orders made before the 22nd, which is exatly 10 weeks. and every order after, on the date it is suppose to ship, we'll send out a email asking if a refund is desired.

It clearly says: Before any order after June 22nd is shipped you will be emailed asking if you still want that batch. Simply say you don't. Sebastian, please read Yifu's post once more, don't let us sit with unwanted chips from batch #6 because of simple misunderstanding.

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Quote from: voxelot on September 01, 2013, 02:59:00 AM

Quote from: Its About Sharing on September 01, 2013, 02:39:35 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:09:54 PM

Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

I wasn't aware that we couldn't cancel group 6 chips. I put in my cancel but the chips are still coming? I don't believe you mentioned that 6 could not be cancelled when you first mentioned the
refunds, did you? (Perhaps later but I haven't followed the whole thread.)

I'm a bit confused here. (And I know you are overloaded with work regarding this refund and I think you should be compensated,) but perhaps there are others in the group 6 buy who thought they
would receive chips last and so also cancelled?

Thanks,
IAS

Avalon is posting refunds to orders purchased before certain dates. I will not provide you with these dates because they keep changing and the information is out there for you to find. Sebastian is doing his best to return the refunds offered to him.

Some people still would rather receive chips in your group buy IAS as it is about sharing.

Thanks for the reply, but can you keep you smart ass comments about my handle to yourself? I mentioned in my thread that Sebastian should be compensated and I'm not trying to create more work, just trying to clear things up for group 6 people - no need to restate what I've already said.)

For those of you who don't understand my comment to voxelot - He started being a trouble maker here (and prior) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3020135 and then I called him out on it. He then apologized but then started pissing off roughly half the thread with his comments - just read that link. Then he started being nice again. How about just trying to be nice and stop with the underhanded comments? Stop mixing a helpful comment with a wise ass one...

(Thanks for your comment Zich)

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Quote from: Its About Sharing on September 01, 2013, 02:39:35 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:09:54 PM

Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

I wasn't aware that we couldn't cancel group 6 chips. I put in my cancel but the chips are still coming? I don't believe you mentioned that 6 could not be cancelled when you first mentioned the
refunds, did you? (Perhaps later but I haven't followed the whole thread.)

I'm a bit confused here. (And I know you are overloaded with work regarding this refund and I think you should be compensated,) but perhaps there are others in the group 6 buy who thought they
would receive chips last and so also cancelled?

Thanks,
IAS

I guess Batch 6 still not overdue yet because it's was ondered on 2013-07-07. That's why it's can not be refund. But i am not sure whenever the list of people still original buyer or substitute by people that choose to wait chips

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Quote from: Its About Sharing on September 01, 2013, 02:39:35 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:09:54 PM

Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

I wasn't aware that we couldn't cancel group 6 chips. I put in my cancel but the chips are still coming? I don't believe you mentioned that 6 could not be cancelled when you first mentioned the
refunds, did you? (Perhaps later but I haven't followed the whole thread.)

I'm a bit confused here. (And I know you are overloaded with work regarding this refund and I think you should be compensated,) but perhaps there are others in the group 6 buy who thought they
would receive chips last and so also cancelled?

Thanks,
IAS

Avalon is posting refunds to orders purchased before certain dates. I will not provide you with these dates because they keep changing and the information is out there for you to find. Sebastian is doing his best to return the refunds offered to him.

Some people still would rather receive chips in your group buy IAS as it is about sharing.

Its About Sharing

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:09:54 PM

Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

I wasn't aware that we couldn't cancel group 6 chips. I put in my cancel but the chips are still coming? I don't believe you mentioned that 6 could not be cancelled when you first mentioned the
refunds, did you? (Perhaps later but I haven't followed the whole thread.)

I'm a bit confused here. (And I know you are overloaded with work regarding this refund and I think you should be compensated,) but perhaps there are others in the group 6 buy who thought they
would receive chips last and so also cancelled?

Thanks,
IAS

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I am interested to know which decisions you made with regards to:

- how many chips are being kept, does it even out or will you have too many/little?
- amount of refund given, 100%, 90%, ....?
- if possible, a reordered list of all orders who want to keep their chips, to see if they now fall into your batch 1, 2 or 6

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Brilliant news, I honestly did not expect the refunds to happen that fast (a part of me even thought they may not happen at all), so I'm very pleasantly surprised. Can I be a bit cheeky and ask when the refunds will down filter to us? I appreciate there are a lot of calculation to do beforehand.
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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:44:59 PM

Quote from: Zich on August 31, 2013, 09:40:03 PM

Sebastian, if i may ask, how do i know on which batch i am currently if before i was on batch 1 that had been refunded

I didnt refund batch 1 since we probably need one more batch in addition to batch 6 at the end. But since most of the batches before our batches will be refunded i believe that all our remaining batches are shipped fast. So that it wouldnt matter much in what batch someones chips are.

Great

Edit:
I got it, it's must be Batch 3, 4, 5 that already refunded

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:08:46 PM

You link isnt adjusting the difficulty prozentually i believe. For a static test with no diffi at all i use this: http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator
Of course it makes only sense for looking at a day.

My bitburner run with settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.

Its the best setting i found till now.

That makes it 0.07BTC per/day for Bitburnerxx

For this diff. I can watch the earnings for each found block getting less with each diff update.

Quote from: Zich on August 31, 2013, 09:40:03 PM

Sebastian, if i may ask, how do i know on which batch i am currently if before i was on batch 1 that had been refunded

I didnt refund batch 1 since we probably need one more batch in addition to batch 6 at the end. But since most of the batches before our batches will be refunded i believe that all our remaining batches are shipped fast. So that it wouldnt matter much in what batch someones chips are.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:08:46 PM

You link isnt adjusting the difficulty prozentually i believe. For a static test with no diffi at all i use this: http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator
Of course it makes only sense for looking at a day.

My bitburner run with settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.

Its the best setting i found till now.

That makes it 0.07BTC per/day for Bitburnerxx

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Sebastian, if i may ask, how do i know on which batch i am currently if before i was on batch 1 that had been refunded

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 09:09:54 PM

Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

Excellent news, and thank you!

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Quote from: chirale on August 31, 2013, 09:20:59 PM

Sebastian,
Since Yifu is not going to refund batch 6, will you use these chips for the people that still wants chips delivered? And use BTC obtained with the refunds of other batches to refund also people in batch 6?
Tnx

Thats what i will try. Of course at the end some people that wanted chips cant get them or some people that didnt want chips will have to take some. Because we cant split a batch.

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Sebastian,
Since Yifu is not going to refund batch 6, will you use these chips for the people that still wants chips delivered? And use BTC obtained with the refunds of other batches to refund also people in batch 6?
Tnx

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Oh and... 3 Refunds are safed. I received the bitcoins. So now 2 batches and the 6000 chips from batch 6 are on order.

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You link isnt adjusting the difficulty prozentually i believe. For a static test with no diffi at all i use this: http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator
Of course it makes only sense for looking at a day.

My bitburner run with settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.

Its the best setting i found till now.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 08:36:22 PM

Quote from: tiros on August 31, 2013, 08:33:11 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 08:12:50 PM

Quote from: tiros on August 31, 2013, 08:00:27 PM

What are the chances for burnin bitburners to make ROI and how long it will take?
I want to see my boards but I am afraid I will pay for that feeling severely.

Check for yourself: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

I asked for a refund for the three batches and wait for yifu now. Regarding the batches. We have to keep batch 6, no choice there. If someone is moved into that batch it cant be changed. But it shouldnt be a downside at all since i think most of the batches before will be refunded so the remaining batches will be shipped the faster. The only question is if the remaining 2 batches should be refunded too or not.

Good News... i received one Refund for a chip batch! Waiting for the others.

I checked today and it isn't looking good. I wanted person to person opinion.

I dont see a chance. I checked out everything. Alternate coins... there are none. I tried mining zetacoins but instead getting 160% of bitcoin revenue i got something like 60% or so.
The only thing worth is merged mining. I do it at bitparking.com. Gives 2%+. Ill use a own p2pool server soon with merge mining. Then i can get transaction fees too. They are missing at bitparking yet.

Thanks for your reply Sebastian. So one bitburner 20 chips can earn per 24h, how much BTC?
thegenesis block seems to be calculating revenue for solo mining, not pool mining even they have pool percentage fee. (Time per
Block (days)) column.

How accurate is this?
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
What is reality?

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 08:12:50 PM

Quote from: tiros on August 31, 2013, 08:00:27 PM

What are the chances for burnin bitburners to make ROI and how long it will take?
I want to see my boards but I am afraid I will pay for that feeling severely.

Check for yourself: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

I asked for a refund for the three batches and wait for yifu now. Regarding the batches. We have to keep batch 6, no choice there. If someone is moved into that batch it cant be changed. But it shouldnt be a downside at all since i think most of the batches before will be refunded so the remaining batches will be shipped the faster. The only question is if the remaining 2 batches should be refunded too or not.

Good News... i received one Refund for a chip batch! Waiting for the others.

Well done! Difficult decision and you are doing great!

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Quote from: tiros on August 31, 2013, 08:33:11 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 31, 2013, 08:12:50 PM

Quote from: tiros on August 31, 2013, 08:00:27 PM

What are the chances for burnin bitburners to make ROI and how long it will take?
I want to see my boards but I am afraid I will pay for that feeling severely.

Check for yourself: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

I asked for a refund for the three batches and wait for yifu now. Regarding the batches. We have to keep batch 6, no choice there. If someone is moved into that batch it cant be changed. But it shouldnt be a downside at all since i think most of the batches before will be refunded so the remaining batches will be shipped the faster. The only question is if the remaining 2 batches should be refunded too or not.

Good News... i received one Refund for a chip batch! Waiting for the others.

I checked today and it isn't looking good. I wanted person to person opinion.

I dont see a chance. I checked out everything. Alternate coins... there are none. I tried mining zetacoins but instead getting 160% of bitcoin revenue i got something like 60% or so.
The only thing worth is merged mining. I do it at bitparking.com. Gives 2%+. Ill use a own p2pool server soon with merge mining. Then i can get transaction fees too. They are missing at bitparking yet.

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It looks like Yifu is in the mood to communicate: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3053184
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