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Topic: [Group Buy] Avalon ASIC Chips (SebastianJu) Batch 6 ordered (Closed) - page 30. (Read 125254 times)

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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh

I tend to think that avalon had 10k chips lay around and they wanted to show good will by shipping a batch. If they didnt the customers would cry already. So they are silent...
Its the only explaination to me that this single batch is the only shipped.

Well, Zefyr's batch 1 was ordered 16 April.  Assuming the wafer run is only booked with the foundry when the chips are ordered from Avalon, then even our batch 1 wafers would have been ordered quite a few weeks after zefir's.  And then of course actual lead time might vary, depending on how busy the foundry is when the order is placed (and how busy the packaging house is, and how quick Avalon is at shipping the chips out - and indeed how quick Avalon was to place the order with the foundry in the first place).

It will be interesting to see how long Zefir's next batches take, since they were only ordered a couple of days later.  In fact even zefir's batch 7 was ordered before our batch 1 - so does that mean our batch 6 will actually ship before our batch 1? :-)

Im wondering only that zefir's second batch isnt shipped already. I mean he ordered the batches nearly day after day. The delay looks to me like avalon only wanted to show that they ship, but its not their first priority right now. I have one batch 3 miner ordered too but asked for a refund now. I mean those miners are expensive compared to chips +  burnin. And they probably will be send nearly at the same time. One good thing that speaks for avalon is that they refund in full and in bitcoin... thats not what others do.
Lets seen when zefir announces his 2. batch is on the way...
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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh

I tend to think that avalon had 10k chips lay around and they wanted to show good will by shipping a batch. If they didnt the customers would cry already. So they are silent...
Its the only explaination to me that this single batch is the only shipped.

Well, Zefyr's batch 1 was ordered 16 April.  Assuming the wafer run is only booked with the foundry when the chips are ordered from Avalon, then even our batch 1 wafers would have been ordered quite a few weeks after zefir's.  And then of course actual lead time might vary, depending on how busy the foundry is when the order is placed (and how busy the packaging house is, and how quick Avalon is at shipping the chips out - and indeed how quick Avalon was to place the order with the foundry in the first place).

It will be interesting to see how long Zefir's next batches take, since they were only ordered a couple of days later.  In fact even zefir's batch 7 was ordered before our batch 1 - so does that mean our batch 6 will actually ship before our batch 1? :-)
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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh

I tend to think that avalon had 10k chips lay around and they wanted to show good will by shipping a batch. If they didnt the customers would cry already. So they are silent...
Its the only explaination to me that this single batch is the only shipped.

There is another explanation: Guys from Avalon batch #3 freaked out when they saw 1st Zefir batch shipped. They thought it was ultimately unfair towards them, and some of them started to organize to go to court, picking lawyers etc. It's not totally crazy since BitSynCom is registered US company, Yifu can have some legal problems. My opinion is that he doesn't dare to ship any more chip batches until he ships some more machines to minimize the risk for these guys to organize, when most of them get their machines it will be hard for them to prove they are screwed.

Its true that Yifu's first priority now is the batch 3 miners. At least i take this from a ticket i nearly forced to answer him. He wrote that other problems are more important than the chip shipment. That only can be the batch 3 miners and the problems he mentioned with it.
Part of the problem might be solved by refunds, even though i only know one person that actually got a refund yet.
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If anyone is interested, I am selling 230 chips from Batch 6 here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263399.new#new

Thanks
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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh

I tend to think that avalon had 10k chips lay around and they wanted to show good will by shipping a batch. If they didnt the customers would cry already. So they are silent...
Its the only explaination to me that this single batch is the only shipped.

There is another explanation: Guys from Avalon batch #3 freaked out when they saw 1st Zefir batch shipped. They thought it was ultimately unfair towards them, and some of them started to organize to go to court, picking lawyers etc. It's not totally crazy since BitSynCom is registered US company, Yifu can have some legal problems. My opinion is that he doesn't dare to ship any more chip batches until he ships some more machines to minimize the risk for these guys to organize, when most of them get their machines it will be hard for them to prove they are screwed.
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Oh right, I understand, thank you for your help.  I'll keep on looking.
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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh

I tend to think that avalon had 10k chips lay around and they wanted to show good will by shipping a batch. If they didnt the customers would cry already. So they are silent...
Its the only explaination to me that this single batch is the only shipped.
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Hi
You say that there are some chips without complete address details (not sure if this is payment or delivery address), does this mean that some chips may become available (to send to burnin), or have I missed the boat on this?
Alex

No, they belong to someone so i cant sell them. But if the infos are missing when the chips are here those owner have to wait for their chips.

You might check out the sales and auction subforums. There seems to be running a couple of resales.
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Hi
You say that there are some chips without complete address details (not sure if this is payment or delivery address), does this mean that some chips may become available (to send to burnin), or have I missed the boat on this?
Alex
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10 weeks have now passed since batch 2 was ordered.

This week Avalon shipped only one 10k batch of chips to zefir, and nobody else has got nothing. If Avalon continues to process only one chip order per week are we getting any chips before winter  Huh
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So Avalon is not shipping all the early batches altogether as we hoped. Sad


zefir is the only normal buyer that got a batch i believe. Yifu only stated in his newsletter that the chips are shipped starting mid july and in order of buying. He has the chips already as it looks.
It might be that he really waits days until the next batch is send. But that would be a bit strange. He didnt show such kind of "fairness" in previous orders so i doubt he will do it this way. When batch 3 miners are shipped, i believe, he will ship all other batches one after another. That could be fast.

Of course thats only my guess, might run another way.
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So Avalon is not shipping all the early batches altogether as we hoped. Sad
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Updated all tables.

2765 Unique users

Missing info:
21 billing addresses in full or partly (7.61%)
36 target address, for example assembler (13.04%)
5 Verifications (1.82%)

3107 Chips without billing address (5.55%)
5872 Chips without target address (10.49%)
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My last 2 chips are gone now...
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When you order now in burnin's shop keep in mind that you have to do 2 orders with 2 times shipping cost if you want miners from earlier batches shipped instantly to you. For example when you order 2 miner from batch 1 and 4 miners from batch 5 in one order then all miners will be shipped after the miners from batch 5 are ready. 2 checkouts are needed if you want to get the previous ones before.
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Anyone is missing 2 or 3 chips to get a full miner? Since burnin will replace broken asics i now calculated that i have 12 chips, from my private ones, that i cant use. If someone needs a couple... its in batch 5, order 17.

I thought he meant that he would replace them on your board free of charge, not that he would supply them. Maybe I am wrong.

His last message could be seen as such but he meant earlier: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2031965
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