Congrats everyone, it seems this mess is almost over.
I am so happy to see that I will get most of my BTC back from this group buy!
It is only a matter of time before JohnK gets everything sorted out.
Everyone please fill out the form to expedite the refund process:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Db9Xx8NYvjnq-Pm7MmuVgWauTP1qSaFRyemI_sa5DkA/viewform
Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 21. (Read 150591 times)
September 19, 2013, 12:10:44 AM
September 18, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
Filled out.
September 18, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
The past week has been a busy one with work so I haven't had a lot of time to dig through the results of the form I provided earlier and reconcile that against Ben's shared spreadsheet but I do still hope to get it done tonight / tomorrow. I have shared the results of that spreadsheet with Ben. I will share it with John as well in the hopes that we can alleviate any more pain from this process.
If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
Which form is this?If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
My mistake. I should have included it.
Here is the form for refund / chip transfer tracking:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Db9Xx8NYvjnq-Pm7MmuVgWauTP1qSaFRyemI_sa5DkA/viewform
September 18, 2013, 08:43:47 PM
The past week has been a busy one with work so I haven't had a lot of time to dig through the results of the form I provided earlier and reconcile that against Ben's shared spreadsheet but I do still hope to get it done tonight / tomorrow. I have shared the results of that spreadsheet with Ben. I will share it with John as well in the hopes that we can alleviate any more pain from this process.
If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
Which form is this?If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
( My Refund address : 12kz9PYZe13RzwnHyeixiXxspfFMGenEso )
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320 chips from dserrano5 - TXID -- fc53e0de8b751a02d0a0c38277dbda45bb1294e435823847d41180b6370a1544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2095196
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2095566
252 chips from atcsecure - TXID -- b68098d0d438c68f9334685da8419e2c8aeae6de2a975b43caf8ea2f1f2ed5ad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2006801
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2006359
For a total of 572 from batch #1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2095196
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2095566
252 chips from atcsecure - TXID -- b68098d0d438c68f9334685da8419e2c8aeae6de2a975b43caf8ea2f1f2ed5ad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2006801
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2006359
For a total of 572 from batch #1
September 18, 2013, 04:45:44 PM
Thank Christ this is over.
Chips: 40
Refund address: 1AGxnZ8XfAYEkT1nhnGGWVc2TEGvUWzhPR
Chips: 40
Refund address: 1AGxnZ8XfAYEkT1nhnGGWVc2TEGvUWzhPR
September 18, 2013, 03:29:30 PM
The past week has been a busy one with work so I haven't had a lot of time to dig through the results of the form I provided earlier and reconcile that against Ben's shared spreadsheet but I do still hope to get it done tonight / tomorrow. I have shared the results of that spreadsheet with Ben. I will share it with John as well in the hopes that we can alleviate any more pain from this process.
If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
If you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so.
September 18, 2013, 03:09:32 PM
Origin: 157d3NPXUEWT2sxqpekjjy4ab9cGKYjDQi
Refund: 174zoHrPuXNWVsRaNQYxYesihHYoKEKnsc
TXID: 0907a3597cfaa9e02dae4f5a4a5d103e8eafd000ad0500fb4c81784aa4d96fd7
Refund address signed by Origin address:
G7rl6A5WD/9pNv5hL+Ip+icKMkh2vUS3x3dBTd4tTg5FUp9BJmeNq/hjPFdrxvCzfWiWIkn8KfrUaNbSEVg17CQ=
Refund: 174zoHrPuXNWVsRaNQYxYesihHYoKEKnsc
TXID: 0907a3597cfaa9e02dae4f5a4a5d103e8eafd000ad0500fb4c81784aa4d96fd7
Refund address signed by Origin address:
G7rl6A5WD/9pNv5hL+Ip+icKMkh2vUS3x3dBTd4tTg5FUp9BJmeNq/hjPFdrxvCzfWiWIkn8KfrUaNbSEVg17CQ=
September 18, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
Whew!
I vote we do a refund process similar to steamboat, where we sign a message with the bitcoin address we'd like the refund sent to.
I vote we do a refund process similar to steamboat, where we sign a message with the bitcoin address we'd like the refund sent to.
another way might be PMs. John using that latest form we just used and confirming the BTC return address to us via PMs
September 18, 2013, 11:56:01 AM
Whew!
I vote we do a refund process similar to steamboat, where we sign a message with the bitcoin address we'd like the refund sent to.
I vote we do a refund process similar to steamboat, where we sign a message with the bitcoin address we'd like the refund sent to.
September 18, 2013, 06:17:37 AM
Thank goodness gents... glad you are clear!
September 18, 2013, 05:43:30 AM
Well, it looks like it's finally over. This morning, Avalon did a bunch of refunds. This group buy was one of them: https://blockchain.info/tx/730e45ef0d59847973bb9e80e6e05c014787e5c91b01094647a39d7a5ab76199.
(1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN is an Avalon-controlled address. 1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL is John (John K.)'s refund address for this group buy, as indicated in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3111564.)
(1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN is an Avalon-controlled address. 1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL is John (John K.)'s refund address for this group buy, as indicated in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3111564.)
Excellent news! Hopefully John can get our individual refunds sorted and processed soon.
September 18, 2013, 04:55:36 AM
Awwwwww Yeeeea!
September 18, 2013, 04:51:39 AM
Well, it looks like it's finally over. This morning, Avalon did a bunch of refunds. This group buy was one of them: https://blockchain.info/tx/730e45ef0d59847973bb9e80e6e05c014787e5c91b01094647a39d7a5ab76199.
(1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN is an Avalon-controlled address. 1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL is John (John K.)'s refund address for this group buy, as indicated in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3111564.)
(1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN is an Avalon-controlled address. 1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL is John (John K.)'s refund address for this group buy, as indicated in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3111564.)
September 17, 2013, 01:24:03 AM
To check the status of the refund, check this number. if it's over 700, we got it...
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Can we at least get an update from John K. about whether the shipping status on Avalon's site has changed?
September 16, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
To check the status of the refund, check this number. if it's over 700, we got it...
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September 16, 2013, 01:46:14 AM
JohnK supposedly filed for a refund a week or so prior to the latest round of shipping chips took place.
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
Issue here is Avalon / BitSynCom / Yifu. JohnK reputation should and will remain pristine as a result of this Group Buy. He has and will do what is required for the group and have gone well above the required services he was first asked to provide. At this point this group buy is suffering from Avalon Flu. Symptoms include slow response to stimuli especially emails and phone calls. Suggested remedy is a lawsuit enema.
Sorry, I disagree. As I said before, when it came time to actually EARN his escrow fees by anteing up the service that we paid him for in advance, all we got was crickets.
September 16, 2013, 12:48:10 AM
JohnK supposedly filed for a refund a week or so prior to the latest round of shipping chips took place.
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
Issue here is Avalon / BitSynCom / Yifu. JohnK reputation should and will remain pristine as a result of this Group Buy. He has and will do what is required for the group and have gone well above the required services he was first asked to provide. At this point this group buy is suffering from Avalon Flu. Symptoms include slow response to stimuli especially emails and phone calls. Suggested remedy is a lawsuit enema.
September 15, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
I bought 63.35 chips (5.1BTC before fees, 5.35 after fees)
return address:
1NgU5qj9Dh8JUSjonCrMPdJKm8vVqctnSf
return address:
1NgU5qj9Dh8JUSjonCrMPdJKm8vVqctnSf
September 15, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
JohnK supposedly filed for a refund a week or so prior to the latest round of shipping chips took place.
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
I have little reason (so far) to doubt JohnK. So far.
Is Yifu so inept that he couldn't be bothered with processing the refunds in queue instead of shipping out those orders?
I would not put it past him.
BUT,
JohnK is up BTC15 for being the escrow for the Group Buy.
I think that his reputation might suffer if he doesn't at the very least come to this thread and either offer suggestions or request them on our potential courses of action.
Sure, I don't think Yifu or Ragingazn's issues are the fault of JohnK.
But, did he not accept some risk when he accepted our bitcoins?
September 15, 2013, 04:21:03 PM
I sold my chips a while back, but have been watching this thread. I think RagingAZN needs to be tagged as a scammer at this point. Honestly, I think he should be under criminal investigation for investment fraud.
Has he stolen any chips, or just been extremely unresponsive on the forum? Personally I think as long as he delivers the chips to the rightful owners once they arrive, the scammer tag is probably not warranted.
People might have strong views on his trust rating from their individual perspectives, but I think that's different from definitive fraud / outright scamming.
JohnK - what is the interplay between the escrow system and the scammer tag? Clearly ragin is not fit to run another group buy, so that should be made clear to any potential particpants somehow? What would be the appropriate course of action at this stage?
BTW, if we have indeed failed to cancel our order, by the time these chips are delivered by Avalon, they won't be worth much more than the shipping cost to anyone.
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