Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 22. (Read 150591 times)
September 15, 2013, 02:22:33 PM
I sold my chips a while back, but have been watching this thread. I think RagingAZN needs to be tagged as a scammer at this point. Honestly, I think he should be under criminal investigation for investment fraud.
September 15, 2013, 11:25:59 AM
JohnK isn't the problem, he's done everything in his power to contact Avalon for the refund. The problem is primarily Avalon's lack of a response.
Bullshit. He disappeared for a couple of weeks when we were trying to contact him to request this thing. I don't think he's ENTIRELY to blame, but the guy who's REALLY to blame isn't getting compensated one bit. JohnK got his escrow fees, and part of that agreement was to facilitate our recourse if things went sour.
It's like an insurance company saying, "It's not OUR fault you wrecked your car." True, but there's a reason I send them a check every month, and it's not because I like their commercials.
There's a reason we paid JohnK a percentage of this deal, and it's not just because we like him. It's because we expected results, in the event that things went sour. Things did go sour, and JohnK left us wanting for anything remotely resembling results.
Again, I don't blame him for everything else leading up to this clusterfuck. I only blame him for his lack of professionalism and presence in these forums when it came time for him to 'pay the piper' and perform the duties we had paid him for.
So I ask again, what the fuck does JohnK believe is the purpose of the 'service' he's providing?
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The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.
If the results we've seen from JohnK represent the "fullest extent" of his capabilities, he needs to find another line of work.
September 14, 2013, 06:47:18 PM
There's no refund to the Group's address until now. There's a very high probability that the chips are shipped already.
Guess we'll have to send them back, then. We are clearly entitled to a refund.
If we send them back, you can expect to never have anything in the end.
September 14, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
There's no refund to the Group's address until now. There's a very high probability that the chips are shipped already.
Guess we'll have to send them back, then. We are clearly entitled to a refund.
Who will send them back while the group buy manager is missing
September 14, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
There's no refund to the Group's address until now. There's a very high probability that the chips are shipped already.
Guess we'll have to send them back, then. We are clearly entitled to a refund.
September 14, 2013, 01:07:14 PM
There's no refund to the Group's address until now. There's a very high probability that the chips are shipped already.
September 14, 2013, 10:33:17 AM
JohnK isn't the problem, he's done everything in his power to contact Avalon for the refund. The problem is primarily Avalon's lack of a response.
and yet some are holding on to getting 2nd gen from these clowns... I like the idea too, since they say all these DIY boards will work with them but can Avalon first create a customer service team?
They would only need a team for about 3 months
September 14, 2013, 10:06:28 AM
JohnK isn't the problem, he's done everything in his power to contact Avalon for the refund. The problem is primarily Avalon's lack of a response.
September 14, 2013, 10:02:13 AM
JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...
No, it's not
https://blockchain.info/address/1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL
Avalon's transaction records
https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN
It show that one of JohnK's refunds has been processed
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ragingazn
1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL - NOT YET
bizwoojune8
1LpJrtx1H7ca1fFmQ4jDEdKKUZr1us2byd - NOT YET
jimmy2011 (orders 10909,10517)
1BaZbQxsXSrDHHZ8BpshsAhbYLaDS1eahW - REFUNDED
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Honestly, what does he think his services are for? This shit should have been resolved weeks ago...
Nice one, JohnK. It's sounding like Ragin just got 10,000 free chips to use to cheer himself up out of his bummed out state. 
THANKS FOR NOTHING! September 14, 2013, 05:47:04 AM
JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...
No, it's not
https://blockchain.info/address/1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL
Avalon's transaction records
https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN
It show that one of JohnK's refunds has been processed
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ragingazn
1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL - NOT YET
bizwoojune8
1LpJrtx1H7ca1fFmQ4jDEdKKUZr1us2byd - NOT YET
jimmy2011 (orders 10909,10517)
1BaZbQxsXSrDHHZ8BpshsAhbYLaDS1eahW - REFUNDED
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September 13, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...
September 13, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
I see my purchased chips are on the spreadsheet .. thanks 
I tried to get you all.
Any appreciation would be more than welcome in the form of a tip.
See my signature. September 13, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
I see my purchased chips are on the spreadsheet .. thanks
September 12, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
I did not sell any chips I paid BTC3 for 37 chips (37.09 in the form) , my refund address is:
1NhSSrRW5Kqzki6TC2HVvHviEtQdxEBTeB
1NhSSrRW5Kqzki6TC2HVvHviEtQdxEBTeB
September 12, 2013, 11:23:10 AM
So, what is happening now there?
Looks like we should get refund?
I have filled form:
25.77 chips, 2.09528002 BTC, address: 1PW9fvHQdUqwSb8DMkpDFCwnGjCJp6ZWX1
Looks like we should get refund?
I have filled form:
25.77 chips, 2.09528002 BTC, address: 1PW9fvHQdUqwSb8DMkpDFCwnGjCJp6ZWX1
September 12, 2013, 09:45:14 AM
Why don't we start a thread where a user signs a message using their return address. The message would contain the original tx id or public link to the sale and the number of chips. This should be easily verified.
September 12, 2013, 09:33:18 AM
The Big Questions is JahnK get refund from Avalon or not YET !
September 12, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
My payment was from a wallet over which I no longer have control.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.
This is exactly why I asked for the addresses. The next step would be to verify the addresses / identities of the people.
September 12, 2013, 08:52:23 AM
My payment was from a wallet over which I no longer have control.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.
September 12, 2013, 08:28:09 AM
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