Topic: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's 15 Sold [Closed] Jupiter Pool - page 3. (Read 75591 times)

 I haven't received anything. When is 'tomorrow at noon'?

we don't want to change any refund addresses unless there's a legitamate reason. everyone should have access to their refundTo address.

We have made a list of addresses that will be getting a hosting refund here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdF9IcFh3QmQ2dEt4Zk5qT3lRUDFDTVE&usp=drive_web#gid=45

Please verify that you have access to the address you paid the hosting payment with.  Will process hosting refund  payment tomorrow at noon.


Cheers

P.S.  As there still is no clarification from KnC on shipping the Jupiters at the end of the month, next mining payment will be suspended till they respond. Which hopefully will be soon.

When can we expect the next payment date?

I sent you a PM on Skype, you were overpaid with a few of the first payments. If you look at the ledger you will see that it has all been mostly paid now, and you will receive a payment on next payment date.  Plus you will receive a hosting refund if you prepaid hosting.

Cheers

HABLA  soniq da la cara y dame mi dinero cabrön: que eres un mierda; desgraciado!!!

+1

Scam

I was asked to look at the hosting payment refunds. I created this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdF9IcFh3QmQ2dEt4Zk5qT3lRUDFDTVE&usp=drive_web#gid=45

It may be a little confusing, but I made a script which dumped out the data and then i created some columns for cross checking to make sure the amounts are okay and there was no variance.  Also, I dumped if they were a shareholder or not.  If not, I also added a column to see if the address to which we'd make a hosting payment refund to has a 0 balance. If so, these addresses may be problematic in that the end user may not have access to the address or no longer use the address. 14/38 of the accounts are such accounts totalling about 24 BTC of the 40.12 BTC to be refunded. Please review this when you have time.

That's not the case.

2^ It seems there is a trigger in the code to not send payments before a threshold. It's 0.01 i suppose. I didn't received anything from Mar 21 2014 transaction too.

soniq paga ya que mis niños tienen que comer.

I prefer the namecoins, because they are usable. Here are my reasons:
-Namecoins security is almost the same as the bitcoin - they are mined by the same miners and the namecoins network difficulty is almost the same as the bitcoins difficulty.
-There are less then 21 million of them to be in circulation ever and they are as hard to mine as bitcoins, but currently less expensive (0.0048 NMC/BTC)
-You can use them to register a decentralized .bit domain
-In future you could use them to register decentralized email or for decentralized voting
-They are used as decentralized torrent tracker via magnet links

You'll tell me I could buy namecoins from the bitcoin payments, but from all the namecoins mined till now in this GB I'll get about 0.003 bitcoins and the fees are about the same, so for those bitcoins I can't buy any namecoins and otherwise I'll get about 0.75 namecoins, which I could use to register 75 .bit domains now if i want or just keep them.

Keep in mind that i own less then 0.02% of this GB, so my vote could be neglected.

I would prefer BTC not nmc

same as the tyrion70  GB

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.240

In the group's interest...

I'm not trying to undermine Larry, but rather just trying to be fair.  If I went along with this, I wouldn't sleep right at night so here I am.

Larry adamantly doesn't want to convert the NMC to BTC.  He wants to payout directly in NMC.  Converting to BTC makes the process about 99% easier.  Not only will we not have to keep track of the past payouts and keep a ledger like we do with BTC, we will ensure everyone gets paid out their share.  Larry refuses to solicit a vote on this and is using an executive decision to payout NMC directly even though most people haven't linked their addresses.   I do understand that a formal vote would take a while to complete.

I haven't done any real analysis on this but it looks like 32 users have linked their addresses and there are way more than 32 shareholders in this group.  There's probably around 125 members in the group.  So maybe 25% of the group has linked their NMC to their BTC address. This concerns me greatly.

Here's the list: http://bitcoinfun.ca/nmcsign/viewlist.html

We can look at that as a vote and assume only ~25% (more or less) want to be paid out directly in NMC. You can argue that we could payout that subset of memberes their share in NMC and convert the rest and pay those out in BTC... but that this becomes unnecessarily complicated and I don't want to spend the time discovering and working out the kinks.  If we payout in NMC to the subset of members, who gets the rest of the NMC?  Do we incorrectly split the entire amount among the people who supplied their NMC addresses?  

I say we should convert them to BTC and add them to the mining income address and payout as a BTC dividend.  This covers all the bases.  There's a fee to do this at an exchange, but it's minimal especially when spread out across the entire group.

An example if we did it right now...
Amount NMC: 3671.53861891   
Price per NMC: 0.00479 BTC
Total: 17.58667 BTC
Fee:   0.0352 BTC

Converting to BTC does have risk like what if NMC doubles tomorrow compared to BTC?  Well, at least everyone got their payout today. No one can predict the future.

Larry's point was getting flak about exactly when to convert.  In other words, he doesn't want to be responsible if he picked the wrong time to convert BTC to NMC.  I think it's pointless to worry about this at this point in the game. You could argue that we should have been paying out NMC all along... but if we had, less than 25% of the group would have registered their NMC addy.

Thoughts?

Payment made today  trans id eacaf9a99aaa8a51c10f4da7f99a58d0b8e435dde51400e44a9b6260744f85a0

Updated link to books and ledger https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtH6ASvoAExHdF9IcFh3QmQ2dEt4Zk5qT3lRUDFDTVE&usp=drive_web#gid=37

Transferred all Jupiter to Eligius mining address  http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1EN3EqqQfqq484WNATFAMA13VXpJuJNv5c

Have tried clarifying a shipping process for Jupiters at end of April (hosting contract expires)  with KnC. No official response from KnC yet.

Finalizing some last details on NMC and will be sending soon.

Will be on the forum on a more regular basis going forward as well.

so, what's the status of this fucked up GB now? 

^If I was right about the 2-3 months back then it should be during the next 20 days. I could be too optimistic about this, so this time my prediction is anytime between now and never, however I really prefer it now!

when can we expect the next dividend payment ?