Topic: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] - page 64. (Read 416703 times)

Please answer my question.

We can understand English, Flemish, Dutch, German, French and Afrikaans.

Thanks

@SmokedMolex:
I fully agree with you on the documentation part. At the moment i can only say i am very sorry and offer the things i already have written.

Based on the reported $0.03 USD i really suggest you review the 2 indicator pages i have written. Because you can do much better then $0.03 USD.

https://www.haasbot.com/trade-server-help/

Let me show it also directly by the post below, because i just wanted to show something here.

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@All:



This are 3 new buttons which you will find on the "Edit indicator" -page (monday after the update). The buttons will allow to do a very small benchmark/backtest of your indicator.

It does what the button says it does. So if you press one of the 3 buttons then you will see the last 30, 60 or 120 prices will be added and shown on the charts.

The good thing is, your settings of the indicator will be used. So you can run several "tests" to see what the effect of your changes is.

BTW If somebody is interested... i tested a basic RSI-30 indicator here for the past 120min. The market prices chart is not shows here, but the test results are:

22:00 Buy for 791.28 Usd
23:53 Sell at 797.85 Usd

Proof can be fond here: http://www.haasbot.com/wp-content/uploads/testindicator21.png

(created a few minutes ago on BTCe @ BtcUsd)

I setup an LTC trade bot but I don't understand the Bought/Sold arguments.

If I say 1 LTC it only trades with 1 LTC?

How does it not touch the USD?

I tried this several times and ended up selling all 4 LTC to USD.  How does the bot know how much USD use to purchase LTC?

Also since it can only do ONE BTCe account, not unlimited like the website says before you buy it. How do I manage to get the BTC bot and LTC not to use up all the money in the account for one or the other?

This should be explained in some kind of documentation.

Other than this, it made $0.03 USD.  Profitable? Sure. Worth the hassle?  Not really.

Extremely Frustrated about ZERO documentation on this software.  Meanwhile Stephan told me to read 60+ pages of BTCtalk to get up to speed. Really?

I experienced that as well. Somehow in the interface the decimal is presented as a comma instead of a point, so you can "work around" that by changing the trade-amount to 'X.x' instead of 'X,x' before clicking the save-button. At least that worked for me.

BUG:

when i wanna change coin position i get error: Something went wrong. Exception message: API command incomplete. amount is not a decimal.

The concept is running at the moment, and i will continue full development on it starting from monday after the release. If it goes well it should be in the update after monday. (aka the next monday)

You are indeed right, there are many ways how the benchmarking can be worked out. But its complex, really complex because of the inter-market signals, separate buy and sell signals and different timings of the indicators.

BTW We do have more suprices in store for everybody, but one step at the time.



Yes sure we can add that, no problem.

About the indicators.... i understand you have assigned an single RSI indicator, and yes as soon as the threshold is found a signal will be produced. But you can delay this signal in 2 ways. First you can set 80/20 instead of 30/70 to delay the signal or you can add an additional indicator to delay the signal too. Both methods will result in a later trade momentum, the thing you want to make possible.

I do have some documentation available here:
https://www.haasbot.com/indicator-rsi/

Scroll down on the page for some suggestions about the RSI strategies.

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Edit:
This is what i am looking at right now: (and whats monday coming at the update)


Please note there is 1 coin missing here, and that is the 42-coin. That specific coin is giving problems because of the name, i am not really sure if this can be solved.

I've added a RSI Indicator with no ensurance. It makes some trades where i lost a bit, but on the oter side i win even more.

I have not had good trades with "overcome fee costs" but rather with "Procent price change -Insurance (Wanted raise: 1,0 %, Wanted drop: 1,0 %)" Two trades at 0.2% each is 0.4% so a 1% change should cover that. I know that is not exactly an exact calculation but so far it is working.

Stephan could you please implement a fee calculation method using just the % trading fees and not the trade amount - maybe as an alternate option to the current implementation?

I'm surprised no one else has noticed this - I had the bot run and make unprofitable trades solely due to the incorrect trade fee calculation. It bought low and sold high, but not sufficiently so to overcome the fees.

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As a suggestion regarding the indicators, it would be useful to be able to send signals when indicators *finish* indicating a buy/sell position. For example when RSI *finishes* indicating overbought it is often a good time to buy.

Thanks

BTW We will take care of the unexperienced users using the benchmark which we are working on. Think about it... i dropped the suggestion of auto-tuning. Smiley (the agreement i have with the exchanges will not be affected by this)


Intresting.  I've got lots of thoughts on what I would love to see, but this one gave me a surprise.

Whats the ETA on the benchtool?

Yes i got this one just confirmed. It indeed applies to the StochRSI. The other indicators are not affected by the same issue, i can confirm this too. It will be fixed at the next update.

@glavmey:
That is a real good suggestion, and i think there are possibilities to add it too. We will have a look to implement it, but first stability and equal functionality to the STB.

BTW We will take care of the unexperienced users using the benchmark which we are working on. Think about it... i dropped the suggestion of auto-tuning. (the agreement i have with the exchanges will not be affected by this)

StochRSI Indicator still not working on any other time interval except for 1 min any chance of a fix for this bug

Can confirm. I did a password request and the license was added to my account a few minutes later. Thank you!


Stephan, a question (or maybe a suggestion): Would it be possible to implement some sort of "portfolio rebalancing" strategy / bot / setting?

Some examples / explanations:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebalancing_investments#Rebalancing_bonus
- http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1t8k1n/trendagnostic_trading/
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/goxtool-bot-portfolio-rebalancing-181584
- https://cryptotrader.org/backtests/CK7Sr9HWTNtF5k9NK

I don't see a way to do this with the current version, but maybe this is something that could be added with a later update?

You said somewhere in this thread that you can not publish some specific settings for your bot that are working well, because of your agreement with the exchanges that every user has to be unique. I don't think that such a strategy would counter that, because every user would still buy or sell different amounts at different times.
I'm sure this is something that would also be very helpful for new and/or unexperienced users.

What's your opinion on that?

Yes, thats true. I (or my partner) will have a look an confirm your account based on your email and then we hook you up. Thats all.

So I have to pm you for a donation license?

The benchmarktool as you know it from the STB is not yet present. The current advice is to setup a trade-bot and leave it running for a while non-activated. Using the "Current signals" it is possible to see when trade-command should have been send. This is the current way to benchmark.

I did the same while writing the first help pages of the indicator, you can see it here:
https://www.haasbot.com/indicator-rsi/
https://www.haasbot.com/indicator-stochastic-oscillator/

However as stated before this is not the real benchmark tool. We are working on something much better. I can not fully disclose yet, but think in the direction of auto-tune capabilities. Maybe (i am not fully sure!) the first parts will become visible coming on the update of monday.

papasmurph, i am not fulltime at the forum. If you are in panic because of something please submit us a support ticket or mail then we are able to respond faster.

It is indeed true only the major coins are added (BTC, LTC, PPC, NMC, NVC, XPM), this was communicated with the reason we want to have 100% stability first. Yesterday i told we are very close to this number so we will enable all the alt-coins. If you look inside the Trade Server then see it also written down at the "Change log". This is also the reason why you now see a specific selection of coins at your cryptsy wallet.

The comboboxes into HTML are working, but we added fields to display there settings because HTML is giving some problems. If you look to the setting overview you will see the setting you set is indeed really set. So in fact it works, but the combo does not switch/show the correct value. I am in talking this over with some HTML gurus to make this work better.

At the current moment the STB is still working, and even the website to get the latest version is still operational. But we want to move everybody over to the new software because it brings more abilities then the old version does. The reason we waited with this is because of the missing coins. Exactly the reason you report here.

@all:
About the donation license.... at the current moment about 150-200 people are the happy owners of a donation license. A few of them where even so kind to confirm this in this topic here. We rolled out this license in small steps, but we are ready for mass production on this now. A PM with you email, or a mail or a new password request will all result in getting the donation license. We verify all accounts based on the email.

I upgraded the license finally to the simple trade bot (license)

However, I started that server and the following issue is there:

trading on Cryptsy shows me 5 tradepairs in my wallet that i don't even have...

Further when setting up the bot for cryptsy trading I fill in the info's exchange cryptsy and save, it switches right back to BTCe. The bot is saved for cryptsy, then when I go on edit bot for cryptsy to change trading pairs it shows me the pairs from btce.


What is going on?  pls. help asap. because that is disappointing, very

I am not cursing yet but this brings me right back to some comments I left on bitcointalk.

I need the trader to be set up.

however I read that all coins will be working by update next Monday... so this leaves me with 4 days 2% loss times 3 bot = 12% plus the time where I can not use the bot ?!!!?
As well I expect that the set up issue for the bots is resolved with the update as well and that I dont show on a connected cryptsy API the trading pairs from BTCe

So in any case I expect to have the initial STB updated just in case this one fails. (refer to my previous request) because I switched back to STB for now since it finally made me some kind of profit .

@Stephan: is the update for option 1 users on the STB initial version available? And if so, how to update? pls. advice

Would you care to share to us how the new benchmarking tool will work in Trade Server?