Topic: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] - page 84. (Read 416703 times)

Hello everybody,

I just placed version 9.0.8 beta online. This new version will bring support for MtGox, improvements to the benchmark form and some minor bugfixes.

Like i told before, i have put the feature development for the STBot on HOLD until January. In January a new version will come with a new interface, new improved kernel and i will be launching a lot of new features. This new version will be a fully legal version without beta label (except initial release) and it has been build in cooperation with about 8 people. All these people are working on there own part, like documentation, interface, API core development, translations and so on.

Please do not worry about a update because i will give every Simple Trade Bot user a update in January. For the advanced bot i will offer a discounted price fore the people how already own the simple bot.

Enjoy the new release for now and enjoy trading a MtGox!

Edit:
Cryptopros has tested and compared 3 bots available in the market, the Simple Trade Bot is tested at #1!
http://www.cryptopros.com/p/bots.html

i have big troubles to combine an price change indicator or an rate of change indicator. is someone so kind and could explain that to me a little bit? mainly i use a macd 10 21 or a macd 12 26 indicator with some success.

thanks, subhead

There are so many questions and comments about the bot performance and strategy, but everything in those strategies is adjustable. This isn't automatic! (nothing is). I've been playing with it for a few days, and I'm really impressed by the software. I hope that the new version offers some more advanced options. I'd like to see perpetual signals, some sort of price / volume history database so that changes to strategies can show past performance, this is key.

If the bot isn't selling when you think it should be, look at the trade bot signals screen and find out what isn't checked.

If you don't want the bot to be buying off the next highest ask wall, add a price change indicator and push it higher, or add the rate of change so that it doesn't complete buy orders on slow declines.

testik1:
Keep in mind a lot of the problems you describe are api and exchange problems and the bot , but not the bot alone.

Stephan,

I double checked my settings and found that I may have had the Signal MA set to 18 instead of 12 on my Indicator.  I plotted the charts again, and found that they are still a little different especially after the big dip.

Dear Stephan and everyone else,

I've been using the bot more of less for about a month now. I paid very dearly for it, nearly $400. For I've only lost money buying and using it. I'm happy that the software is being actively developed and supported, but I find the priorities lacking, and certainly I feel a bit put down for not yet even getting back on my own. My thoughts on all this:

FREEZE! STOP developing new features and new stuff until the basics are WORKING.


I don't want to be utterly negative, but I'm starting to lose my patience and humor. The simple trade bot is still very encumbered with bugs. Orders are not getting through, the bitstamp-api does not work and the bot keeps getting hung up and freezing.

I have had it crash repeatedly on several different exceptions (invalid nounce, array index out of bounds, unhandled exception, exception when btce returned "success", "object reference not set to an instance of object"..), the chart-component has severe flaws, some of the indicators don't seem to work the way they should, open orders aren't shown in list, bot is sending command to sell even if already sold etc.

As a minor detail, but still more important than new features, is that the usability isn't very good. Keyboard shortcuts are missing, the tab-order is messed up, labels and the functionality in general isn't very descriptive or clear. Good documentation is also missing


In my opinion there must be a very clear priority set up for fixing the bot. Only after it is in the very least reliably working (and preferaly finely polished) should there be any thought of accepting new feature requests or implementing any new stuff or indicators. We must first fix critical errors (eg. crashing, exceptions, orders not getting through, faulty indicators), annoying bugs (eg. chart component) and add only the extremely necessary features (eg. historical data).

Also, when users encounter bugs or errors or weird behavior (as reported even in this thread), it's not particularly helpful to tout that "it works perfectly, there is no bug". Au contraire, it is very likely there is indeed some underlying error, even if the problem couldn't be replicated. It should be noted, looked into, and if nothing is found it should be kept on record as a possible bug.


Even if this seems very judgemental, don't get me wrong: I do see a lot of potential in the bot and I have enjoyed playing with it. I just felt like reporting on the current state of the bot the way I see it to other people considering buying it. I'm sure one day it will be an immensely helpful and finely polished tool - but we're not quite there yet.

Have a good new week all,
  -t

thank you darrel.

Are you totally sure the setting are fully equal?
I have tested this too and compared the output to the charts bitcoinwisdom and bitcoincharts. 

I will have a look, there is no difference in the math we both use.

Stephan,

While trying to analyze the different indicators offered by your trade bot, I decided to create a spreadsheet so I could see what the different indicators would do with some historical data.

I created a MACD-MA Indicator using the following algorithm:

MACD is the 12 period EMA - 26 period EMA
Signal is the 12 period EMA of the MACD
Histogram is the MACD - the Signal
EMA = Price(t) * k + EMA(y) * (1 – k)
t = today, y = yesterday, N = number of days in EMA, k = 2/(N+1)

I noticed that your indicator acts a little differently than my indicator (see picture).



I was wondering if you could share the algorithms you used for your MACD and PPO indicators.

Thanks,

subhead,


I believe that these are the default settings:

Drop-loss adjustment (time-out)
   Time out in seconds:               -1
   Percentage of buy price:            95.0

Last buy and sell price reset (time-out)
   Time out in seconds:               -1

Disable minimum raise/drop safety            unchecked

Reset last buy and sell price after sell command    unchecked



Darrell

i have put some PTS into my cryptsy wallet and i still getting the api error when performing the api test.  

edit: i have messed around with the advanced settings. can someone please post the default settings? it would be nice if an "reset to default" button could be implemented.

cheers

+1

Has Stephan acknowledged or commented on this yet?
Hopefully it is included in the enhancements currently being worked on.

@seleme:
The cryptsy problem has been reported by some other users too (not all), its seems to be related to the BTC side of the wallet. I did take a look at this issue already and i found that if there is anything on any other side of your wallet (eg LTC) the test will pass. I also found out that trading with BTC still works.

Of course this issue will be solved as soon as possible, but maybe my findings are usefull already to get it working before i fixed it.

About the Simple Bot and Advanced bot... do not worry to much, of course i will favor the current users for the advanced version. I recommend you to just wait to see what i will introduce for both. I have made statments before about a huge update (from 0.8 to 0.9), everybody was very happy back then and i am sure this will happen again.

BTW can you please edit your posts instead of writing a new message each time? Your are flooding the topic a bit this way. Thanks.

Agree and I mentioned this further back.  Maybe the advanced bot will interpolate between the buy/sell prices instead.

K

The biggest problem with this bot that takes away huge amount of possible profit is that it buys directly from ask walls. There is 4$ gap on btc-e btc/usd with big walls just above the buy price and bot executed the buy order. Those 4$ are probably twice profit of what bot would sell for but with buying from ask walls it pretty much kills any chance of profit unless some mini rally starts.

That's huge problem really and it makes bot very risky to run but with some satoshi size orders and there's no money in dust amount trades.

You have to manually decrease a trading amount after bot made first buy trade as fees have been taken from your bought PPC but bot still trying to sell the initial amount and fails as amount of your PPC is smaller for amount of trade fee.

1. I can't connect to Cryptsy too, getting the same error.

2. For guy who asked why he is getting more dollars but less coins - unfortunately, all these bots that use EMA, MACD indicators are designed to make you dollar profit, not btc. It's same with Butter Bot, use any of their Benchmark and you'll see that profit is calculated in dollars but btc quantity goes down.

3. Stephan, will current users of Simple Bot have discount for Advanced Bot? It's great improvement, 2 trade bots are just not enough.

One trade bot will change it's position after each transaction automatically.

K

subhead,


Each bot will do the buying and selling.  You can set up just 1 bot to do your trading, or you could set 1 bot up to trade BTC and the other bot could be setup to trade LTC.

Darrell

This bot seems interesting however I'm not inclined to take a pretty interface as proof that this bot can do well. Nearly every bot I've seen so far tends to lose money more than it makes it.

Can anyone attest to this bot's efficiency? What where your gains?

Also, it'd be awesome if you could have your bot run on a simulated previous market for both fine tuning and crash testing. Otherwise I'm taking a lot more gambles than I'd like.