Topic: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] - page 88. (Read 416703 times)

Glad its working so well for you folks.

People.  Please keep giving feedback as it will help Stephan make the software better for all and help move the release out of beta phase.  There is a reason it is beta after all.  Great progress made and Stephan deserves much appreciation for all his work this far.  Be patient and polite.  Stephan is very good at incorporating fixes and new features on request.  Excellent in fact.  Support is commendable.

A lot of the issues are probably related to us not fully understanding what the bot is doing and once the new documentation arrives, things will become clearer to all hopefully.

Don't be deterred by replies such as "your settings are wrong' (occasionally they will be) or 'it works fine for me.'  (great for you).  If that is the answer to all issues in a beta stage, then the app is frankly doomed!  Whilst slow moving currencies like BTC/USD may respond well to certain settings....those settings can be catastrophic in other currencies.  I've run hundreds of benchmarks and still cannot find anything I'm happy with.  No one person has same requirements as another.

Cheers.

For me too, i am travelling at drop time and unable to check bot
many thanks Stephan

Maybe there are some Cryptsy currencies missing too.  Once I can read my BTC balance with the bot, I will be good to trade on cryptsy :-)

@Stephan Any update on if or how to make Cryptsy work?

@CADguy:
I get it, thanks.


It is non-critical and i have answered these questions before.  

Bot not only trades incorrect, but it calculates the profit is wrong. He did not take into account when buying commission. Hence two problems.
1) Bot ceases trading. Even if I store a small amount of money on both sides - they end, because every time the bot sells more than bought.
2) Profit is calculated incorrectly.
This is a critical error. When a small profit bot trades minus.

i meant the current interval that the bot is on because it is sometimes hard to guess/ estimate from the graph where you are
the "last update" is just a good location for you to place it beside

if im not being clear i mean on the graph you can see that the bot is currently between for example interval 2000 and 2500 but its hard to see that its actualy on interval 2463 (just an example)

let me know if im still not being clear

cheers

I thought you have solved the problem already... it is like the debug log says, the software tries to sell (or buy) the coins. However the exchange rejects your order because the trade-amount is to high. You noticed this problem already i guess.  The solution is straight forward; trade with a little less then the 30LTC, create some overhead. Drop it to 29LTC for example and make sure there is a little amount on both sides of your wallet. If you do this you should encounter no more to problems.

To understand the logic behind:
The bot tries to trade the trade-amount you have set. No matter if it is a buy or a sell. The other solution, like you are writing down, will result in a downgoing trend of the trade-amount in time... think about it, if i should correct the trade-amount each buy or sell it would only do downwards. 

I am still looking to improve this part, but it is not as easy as it might look like. :|

Stephan224
Thanks a lot!
What about my bugreport?

@CADguy:
Your suggestion about the "current interval" next to the "last update"... what do you mean by this? The current prices?

@MBTY:
A new advanced setting is coming, this one will reset the last buy and sell price after the sell.

I will add Ppc/Usd and Trc/Btc for BTC-e too at the update, thanks for telling me this.

@bitErik:
Version 0.9.0.5 beta does not work anymore, i have set some time limits for how long the software can be used. This is to protect you from using an old version and becoming outdated.

@krach:
If you use the bot normally it is not possible to get banned by it. No matter if you select 2 bots to work at bitstamp, the software will spread the load at the exchange and it will make sure you can not get banned. The only way to get banned it to start this software more then once at one and the same exchange.

@baros008:
A return of order id of 0 does not mean it goed wrong, when you see -1 there is a problem.

@$1vEr.$urfer:
It is flood of messages the past days, but i and my partner (Lander) are reading this topic and we are trying to solve any issue we see.

@Mevius:
Thanks, i am happy to see some positive comments too.

@All:
The results produced by (for example) BitCoinWisdom should be almost equal to the values the software produces. Behind it, there is math and it is really hard to temper with that.

At the current moment i found one difference, it is a small one but is does impact the calcation. Both BitCoinWisdom and this software are reading an selected exchange, there is (of course) a difference between when the prices are read. BitCoinWisdom could for example poll an exchange while the software is still counting down to a new update. So this can result in reading at a different moment and so a different price.

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Edit:
I have made some CTF files which you can download here: http://www.haasonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/CTFPackage2.zip

These CTF files inside this ZIP file can be used to be loaded into the Benchmark to see how your trade bot performs.

Please note: These CTF files where made based on the last prices i have collected. There stepping is 300seconds! (5 minutes), benchmark and you will understand why i sometimes trade at a interval of this range.

Bot working nicely^^

Not sure whether my previous comments/questions will get a reply because I can see that there many more questions than there are people able to answer at this point in time.

As somebody whose been over this entire topic once and has also gone through the bot help once I am struggling a bit and have the following general observations.

1. I am not having much success with the backbenching functionality. It would be much easier if one could move the data from right to left - in order to go back in time (and visa versa) - just as you can in bitcoinwisdom.com charts. In fact, if you (Stephan) could update the graphical parts (charts and indicator) to work just like they do in bitcoinwisdom.com's charts then that would go a very very long way in making this bot easier to use.

2. It would be amazing as well if you could get the indicators to work exactly as they do on bitcoinwisdom.com charts - even with the same defaults - and especially the same logic so that when we add an indicator to the bot, then it will behave exactly as the corresponding indicator on bitcoinwisdom.com behaves.

3. If somebody could also please explain the correlations/relationships between the following "time" parameters:

a) the bot "update timer" value
b) the "interval length" in various bot indicators
c) the "time period" in BitCoinWisdom (ranging between 1 week and 1 minute)

If I can get these questions answered then i stand a chance of getting the most out of the bot

I think that is a good idea.  Time outs can be unpredictable maybe.  Or at least the market can be in relation to them :-)

Any chance of of knowing how the drop loss logic works?   I still can't quite make it out.  The drop loss time out is potentially useful, but I agree with including the profit and losses in the benchmark would be useful as I still don't trust the bot or benchmarks really.

Would I be right to assume the bot wont buy if the drop loss is active?  I thought it is supposed to recover after drop loss has sold?  Surely it should buy back in towards the low point and continue?  Every benchmark I do...when the drop loss activates and the bot does nothing, leaving a loss.

Love the colour indicators btw...very useful

K

Does anyone have good long ctf files? with different intervals? (I already have the ones from haasonline) I am looking for some ctf files of the same period (preferebly 4 days or so) with different interval settings. something in the range of 20sec &  1 min & 2 min & 5 min. Does anyone have this kind of data?

Also I have founnd out that you can run more instanses of STB by letting it run under multiple active windows users.. maybe this helps someone. I have made some account on my pc and am currently collecting data simultaniously.

I have same problems.

Only one instance of program running, Bitstamp selected in both STB tabs, only one tab with trading activated, USD and BTC available on Bitstamp, RSI indicator with default settings and trade orders are not really accepted by Bitstamp (order id:0)

There was 6 trade orders sent during night...



no one was accepted...

The bitstamp website states that one is allowed 600 requests in 10 minutes, that is 1 request per second. I don't think the trade bots ever get even near that amount.

Regards, Rob

Hi,
Dont turn both tabs on in bitstamp! One api per currency pair, there is only one pair at bitstamp. You will overload the api and get banned. Yea there are issues with bitstamp sometimes, I am not 100% how to solve them. Check the "support" tab at the bottom and see what it suggests.

I think all the problems with cryptsy are on cryptsy´s end and not the bots.



" have bought simple trade bot yesterday and am tinkering with the settings. Up to now i haven't been able to get it working properly, due to a couple of things:

(I am using Bitstamp/btcusd)

    First you have to select the market in both the trade bot tabs, or else you get a bunch of 'object reference' errors in the debug log and the currency data and graph will not be updated.
    When the bot tries to buy the order often does not get processed at the exchange, however the bot thinks it went okay. I noticed that for the trades that did not come through the debug log states: 'Order accepted, received id: 0', where a trade that does come through the received id is a proper trade id.
    The transaction log on bitstamp does not show the trades that got an id '0' back.

    Anyone else with the same problem?


Also, the column that displays your profit after a trade seems not to take the tradingfee into account. Is that intentional?

MtGox is not on the list of supported exchanges. As it is the largest btcusd and btceur exchange at the moment, I would like to be able to use it. Or is there a reason it is not supported?


Regards, Rob"

I have bought simple trade bot yesterday and am tinkering with the settings. Up to now i haven't been able to get it working properly, due to a couple of things:

(I am using Bitstamp/btcusd)

• First you have to select the market in both the trade bot tabs, or else you get a bunch of 'object reference' errors in the debug log and the currency data and graph will not be updated.
• When the bot tries to buy the order often does not get processed at the exchange, however the bot thinks it went okay. I noticed that for the trades that did not come through the debug log states: 'Order accepted, received id: 0', where a trade that does come through the received id is a proper trade id.
  The transaction log on bitstamp does not show the trades that got an id '0' back.
  
  Anyone else with the same problem?

Also, the column that displays your profit after a trade seems not to take the tradingfee into account. Is that intentional?

MtGox is not on the list of supported exchanges. As it is the largest btcusd and btceur exchange at the moment, I would like to be able to use it. Or is there a reason it is not supported?


Regards, Rob

As already stated before I have bad results w/ MACD-MA: not sure yet if bot fault or market result. At this moment I am using PPO w positive outcome and plan let in more 2 or 3 days. If results are positive i will try fine tunning this function. I am Using BTC/USD on Bitstamp.