Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! - page 103.

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Quote from: Yars on January 09, 2018, 09:42:12 AM

Very informative thread, thanks guys.

I saw all your good feedbacks about riserless motherboards so I purchased 2 Onda 6 GPU boards from Alibaba. They work like a charm but i'm struggling keeping them inside a closed case with a low CFM fans, GPUs are heating too much.

I tried to use some spare Deltas 252 CFM fans, but I can't find in BIOS how to lower fan header voltage in order to decrease the RPM and consumption.
I don't want to keep them at 100% because of noise and don't think the motherboard can handle 3 fans at 3.9A each.

Any ideas?

just buy an external manual Fan regulator. it usually needs a 4 pol molex power

smth like this https://www.amazon.com/HDE-Channel-Multi-Fan-Cooling-Controller/dp/B006UFMH3W/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1515507033&sr=8-7&keywords=fan+control+pc

Yars

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Very informative thread, thanks guys.

I saw all your good feedbacks about riserless motherboards so I purchased 2 Onda 6 GPU boards from Alibaba. They work like a charm but i'm struggling keeping them inside a closed case with a low CFM fans, GPUs are heating too much.

I tried to use some spare Deltas 252 CFM fans, but I can't find in BIOS how to lower fan header voltage in order to decrease the RPM and consumption.
I don't want to keep them at 100% because of noise and don't think the motherboard can handle 3 fans at 3.9A each.

Any ideas?

philipma1957

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Quote from: Mashy81 on January 09, 2018, 06:03:33 AM

Quote from: papabiz on January 08, 2018, 05:16:15 AM

Quote from: Mashy81 on January 08, 2018, 04:54:57 AM

I have 2 of the 6 x onda. I am running 6 x rx570 and on the other 4 x vega 56 and 2 x rx580.
Been running them for a few weeks. A pain to setup but all good once they are set.
I am waiting on some gtx cards so would like to know also.

what issues were u facing when installing those rigs? it might help me, im planning on w10 with 6x 1080ti's

Mine were getting the operating system installed (win 10). Once I got this stable it has been plain sailing.
Its a great board and I have picked up a few more for $100 + shipping.

yea windows is a ballbuster.

but smOS I can set a nvidia rig up in under 30 minutes

Mashy81

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Quote from: papabiz on January 08, 2018, 05:16:15 AM

Quote from: Mashy81 on January 08, 2018, 04:54:57 AM

I have 2 of the 6 x onda. I am running 6 x rx570 and on the other 4 x vega 56 and 2 x rx580.
Been running them for a few weeks. A pain to setup but all good once they are set.
I am waiting on some gtx cards so would like to know also.

what issues were u facing when installing those rigs? it might help me, im planning on w10 with 6x 1080ti's

Mine were getting the operating system installed (win 10). Once I got this stable it has been plain sailing.
Its a great board and I have picked up a few more for $100 + shipping.

philipma1957

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Quote from: Steamtyme on January 08, 2018, 09:23:30 PM

Thanks for the help earlier Phil. I have questions regarding PSU's

So I have managed to secure 6 Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 OC 8GB cards. ( Backorder but close enough)

The site I took my guidance from is suggesting a 1000 W PSU; but I'm thinknig that was for 4GB cards. I read these cards take up to 235 W, not including the rest of the system.

If you have any experience with these, would a 1600 W PSU do the trick? Also what would be the startup sequence if I were to split the load between 2 PSU's. I have time to shop around but figured I should try by getting pointed in the right direction.

Thanks

do your cards have 2 x 8 pin jacks?

you can under volt them somewhat so 6 x 235 = 1410 is not needed.

more like 6 x 175-190 = 1050 to 1140 so a 1200 watter is just barely enough

1500 watt atx

a refurbished below and still costly

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/ax1500i-digital-atx-power-supply-1500-watt-fully-modular-psu-refurbished

on sale the rosewill tokamak 1500 watt

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-TOKAMAK-1500W-Full-Modular-Power-Supply-80-PLUS-TITANIUM-Certified/192417010336?hash=item2cccf292a0:g:aMIAAOSwLOtYXGf2

it has 6 double headed 8 pin pcie cables which will do 220 watts

so it could run 6 of your cards

it has 5 sata/molex cables so you can do risers if needed

the evga 1600 g2 p2 and t2 all use 8pin + 6 pin pcie cables

so if your sapphire are 8pin + 8pin do not get evga

other wise any of the 3 will work

G2
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-G2-1600-X1
P2
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-P2-1600-X1
T2
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-T2-1600-X1

all five of these psu's are good. and have the juice to do your 6 cards if you don't floor them

or buy 2 of these with a psu link

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/rmx-series-rm1000x-1000-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-psu-na-refurbished

https://www.amazon.com/ELEGIANT-Multi-power-Synchronous-Extender-Graphics/dp/B0734Z24BJ/ref=sr_1_4?

you get more power 2000 watts

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Thanks for the help earlier Phil. I have questions regarding PSU's

So I have managed to secure 6 Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 OC 8GB cards. ( Backorder but close enough)

The site I took my guidance from is suggesting a 1000 W PSU; but I'm thinking that was for 4GB cards. I read these cards take up to 235 W, not including the rest of the system.

If you have any experience with these, would a 1600 W PSU do the trick? Also what would be the startup sequence if I were to split the load between 2 PSU's. I have time to shop around but figured I should try by getting pointed in the right direction.

Thanks

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Quote from: HagssFIN on January 08, 2018, 06:42:54 PM

Thanks for the replies guys and
thanks for the info about the ONDA board, but the shipping and VAT most likely
kills that idea unless she writes a low value for the customs.

And I already went ahead and bought four pci-e risers.

I was thinking about getting this mb, which lets me to expand up to 6 GPU's if needed.
ASUS PRIME H270-PLUS
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-H270-PLUS/

I have five of those boards and they work very well and are good value (at least in my location). You can expand it to 8 GPU using two M.2 to PCIE adapters (these ones are cool because they connect directly to the riser usb)

That said I recently setup my first riserless rig running linux off a usb stick and if you're expanding it might be worth the shipping + vat once you factor in buying a CPU, SSD, risers and time to set it up.

HagssFIN

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

Thanks for the replies guys and
thanks for the info about the ONDA board, but the shipping and VAT most likely
kills that idea unless she writes a low value for the customs.

And I already went ahead and bought four pci-e risers.

I was thinking about getting this mb, which lets me to expand up to 6 GPU's if needed.
ASUS PRIME H270-PLUS
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-H270-PLUS/

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 08, 2018, 06:11:23 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on January 08, 2018, 05:49:23 PM

What do you guys think about the GTX 1080 Ti equipped with a blower fan?

I'm thinking about returning into to the gpu mining and build a small 4 GPU rig using these made by Zotac:
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Blower (ZT-P10810B-10P)
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti

I'm able to buy these for quite reasonable price from Germany.

it is a good vga card.

you should get this board.

you can simply alternate your 4 cards very simple build.

sidonia from alibaba will sell a sample for about 178 usd not sure about vat to finland.

I have all info on these in first thread. Onda b250 tell her philip from howell nj usa linked you to her

it is all on this link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27301397

...

Yes agree with Phil

At the end of day, standard 1080ti still performs OK and still tops the GTX 10 series.

The riserless mobos with blower type GPUs is a good match too if you use those Scythe fans to help cool down the GPUs.

If you don't get them.... I will Grin

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Quote from: VyprBTC on January 08, 2018, 04:46:01 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 08, 2018, 01:05:36 AM

Quote from: VyprBTC on January 07, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

@ citronick what's your opinion on moving a couple dozen from BTC into ETH

Thinking about diversifying my portfolio a little bit but not sure if I want to eat the fees or just keep it all BTC.

Currently, my Gemini account is 30% BTC, 30% ETH and 40% USD$
I have also Binance and Bittrex trading accounts... for about 12 more alts.
Diversity is key to growing wealth.

The Citronick System:

Every Monday - I see if BTC or ETH is high enough so that I can sell. If NO - do nothing.

Every Friday - I see if BTC or ETH is low enough so that I can buy. If NO - do nothing.

At the moment, BTC dipped below 15,900$ support -- so I will buy.

ETH is strong at 1225$ ATH and the rally since weekend show a lot of accumulation --- so I will sell.

RINSE and REPEAT.

Well here's my other dilemma - I just don't feel safe depositing a lot of bitcoins in any exchange. I am already shitting bricks with just 3 BTC that I have in Poloniex. I probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I deposited 10% or 25% of my holdings with all the new tax and IRS bullshit going on I just feel I'm better off keeping it all off the books.

Just had really bad dealings with Paypal 10-15 years ago just as an example freezing 50k and didn't release for 6 months! Coinbase also stole around 100k from me and banned my account a few years ago. Not trying to deal with shit like that.

Pretty much just ranting at this point so I'll stop.

Side note I was able to scrape up 6 1070 TI's - 4 1080 TI FE's - 4 1080 TI Hybrids - and 4 1080's - never used 1080's but just said screw it why not. Slots need to be filled. Still on the hunt for more but I'm not trying to pay crazy reseller prices

So far Binance, Bittrex for trading/auto-sell .... and, Gemini and Trezor as my "bank" -- so far so good.

I have been collecting 1060s during these dry months and buying ASICs -- every single satoshi counts at this stage because the post 20k BTC will coming soon.

philipma1957

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Quote from: HagssFIN on January 08, 2018, 05:49:23 PM

What do you guys think about the GTX 1080 Ti equipped with a blower fan?

I'm thinking about returning into to the gpu mining and build a small 4 GPU rig using these made by Zotac:
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Blower (ZT-P10810B-10P)
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti

I'm able to buy these for quite reasonable price from Germany.

it is a good vga card.

you should get this board.

you can simply alternate your 4 cards very simple build.

sidonia from alibaba will sell a sample for about 178 usd not sure about vat to finland.

I have all info on these in first thread. Onda b250 tell her philip from howell nj usa linked you to her

it is all on this link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27301397

HagssFIN

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

What do you guys think about the GTX 1080 Ti equipped with a blower fan?

I'm thinking about returning into to the gpu mining and build a small 4 GPU rig using these made by Zotac:
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti Blower (ZT-P10810B-10P)
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti

I'm able to buy these for quite reasonable price from Germany.

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Quote from: citronick on January 07, 2018, 10:59:59 PM

Quote from: A.Delaney on January 07, 2018, 10:53:02 PM

Windows 10

For Windows 10 -- see -- http://www.awesomeminer.com/

High learning curve but very highly customisable.

ETHMonitor (not the control part, JUST the monitor part) works pretty well and is free to use.

I don't bother with KVM switches any more, I just move the KB/Trackball/VGA connectors as needed with one set assigned to each "rack/shelf" unit.

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Quote from: VyprBTC on January 08, 2018, 04:46:01 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 08, 2018, 01:05:36 AM

Quote from: VyprBTC on January 07, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

@ citronick what's your opinion on moving a couple dozen from BTC into ETH

Thinking about diversifying my portfolio a little bit but not sure if I want to eat the fees or just keep it all BTC.

Currently, my Gemini account is 30% BTC, 30% ETH and 40% USD$
I have also Binance and Bittrex trading accounts... for about 12 more alts.
Diversity is key to growing wealth.

The Citronick System:

Every Monday - I see if BTC or ETH is high enough so that I can sell. If NO - do nothing.

Every Friday - I see if BTC or ETH is low enough so that I can buy. If NO - do nothing.

At the moment, BTC dipped below 15,900$ support -- so I will buy.

ETH is strong at 1225$ ATH and the rally since weekend show a lot of accumulation --- so I will sell.

RINSE and REPEAT.

Well here's my other dilemma - I just don't feel safe depositing a lot of bitcoins in any exchange. I am already shitting bricks with just 3 BTC that I have in Poloniex. I probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I deposited 10% or 25% of my holdings with all the new tax and IRS bullshit going on I just feel I'm better off keeping it all off the books.

Just had really bad dealings with Paypal 10-15 years ago just as an example freezing 50k and didn't release for 6 months! Coinbase also stole around 100k from me and banned my account a few years ago. Not trying to deal with shit like that.

Pretty much just ranting at this point so I'll stop.

Side note I was able to scrape up 6 1070 TI's - 4 1080 TI FE's - 4 1080 TI Hybrids - and 4 1080's - never used 1080's but just said screw it why not. Slots need to be filled. Still on the hunt for more but I'm not trying to pay crazy reseller prices

care to share where you are finding stock ?

QuintLeo

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Quote from: ATCkit on January 07, 2018, 11:50:34 PM

I discovered this case, Thermaltake Core X5 ATX Cube Chassis, can hold up to 8 GPUs.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hx29TW

Going by the specs, it might even fit the Onda 8 GPU Motherboard?

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00002806

Nope. 12" maximum width on the MB.

EATX uses a LONGER motherboard, not a wider one, so they can still fit into 4U cases with an ATX-type power supply "on it's side" without exceeding the max width of a 4U case or having to park the PS "over" something.

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Quote from: citronick on January 08, 2018, 01:05:36 AM

Quote from: VyprBTC on January 07, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

@ citronick what's your opinion on moving a couple dozen from BTC into ETH

Thinking about diversifying my portfolio a little bit but not sure if I want to eat the fees or just keep it all BTC.

Currently, my Gemini account is 30% BTC, 30% ETH and 40% USD$
I have also Binance and Bittrex trading accounts... for about 12 more alts.
Diversity is key to growing wealth.

The Citronick System:

Every Monday - I see if BTC or ETH is high enough so that I can sell. If NO - do nothing.

Every Friday - I see if BTC or ETH is low enough so that I can buy. If NO - do nothing.

At the moment, BTC dipped below 15,900$ support -- so I will buy.

ETH is strong at 1225$ ATH and the rally since weekend show a lot of accumulation --- so I will sell.

RINSE and REPEAT.

Well here's my other dilemma - I just don't feel safe depositing a lot of bitcoins in any exchange. I am already shitting bricks with just 3 BTC that I have in Poloniex. I probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I deposited 10% or 25% of my holdings with all the new tax and IRS bullshit going on I just feel I'm better off keeping it all off the books.

Just had really bad dealings with Paypal 10-15 years ago just as an example freezing 50k and didn't release for 6 months! Coinbase also stole around 100k from me and banned my account a few years ago. Not trying to deal with shit like that.

Pretty much just ranting at this point so I'll stop.

Side note I was able to scrape up 6 1070 TI's - 4 1080 TI FE's - 4 1080 TI Hybrids - and 4 1080's - never used 1080's but just said screw it why not. Slots need to be filled. Still on the hunt for more but I'm not trying to pay crazy reseller prices

philipma1957

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Quote from: generalt on January 08, 2018, 03:39:17 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 08, 2018, 10:14:56 AM

BTC is in trouble due to tx fee manipulation .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-all-miners-need-to-mine-on-a-pool-that-pays-them-the-tx-fees-2634505

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27049906

Interesting theory Phil. I've been plagued by these high BTC transaction fees to the point that it is not economical to use BTC anymore for purchases unless you're buying something costly. This would certainly explain a lot and I hope it opens people's eyes to mine on other pools.

the only theory is how many 2 to 10 sat transaction are they doing like the 1 a day for 2 months that I show.

1 a day is no big deal

10000 a day is a big deal

10000 x 0.0001 = 1 btc and it creates 80 to 225 btc back to the antpool+btc.com 40% group

10000 a day is 10,000 x 1335 bytes = 13,350,000 or 13.35 blocks at small fees of about but it creates

13,350,000 x 10 = 133,500,000 bytes or 133.5 blocks at high fees

so if a coder was to search out all transactions paying under 10 sats a byte the exact number is determined.

We have proof of 1 day not more so is it 1 or 10,000? or most likely an in between number?

Say 100 or 1000

I would love to know and if I could code to sort out tx's under 10 sats a byte I would. That is on someone else to do.

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Quote from: generalt on January 08, 2018, 03:39:17 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 08, 2018, 10:14:56 AM

BTC is in trouble due to tx fee manipulation .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-all-miners-need-to-mine-on-a-pool-that-pays-them-the-tx-fees-2634505

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27049906

Interesting theory Phil. I've been plagued by these high BTC transaction fees to the point that it is not economical to use BTC anymore for purchases unless you're buying something costly. This would certainly explain a lot and I hope it opens people's eyes to mine on other pools.

Hey, haven't you read this from Antpool doc:

Quote

Transaction fees not paid out to miners for maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers

You don't want to leave those hard working engineers without their bonus do you? Grin

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 08, 2018, 10:14:56 AM

BTC is in trouble due to tx fee manipulation .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-all-miners-need-to-mine-on-a-pool-that-pays-them-the-tx-fees-2634505

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27049906

Interesting theory Phil. I've been plagued by these high BTC transaction fees to the point that it is not economical to use BTC anymore for purchases unless you're buying something costly. This would certainly explain a lot and I hope it opens people's eyes to mine on other pools.

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Wow has ETH been on a wild ride! Was watching it all day yesterday... topping out at about $1,230 on GDAX (I broke down and sold 1 at just over $1,200 lol). Then overnight, it crashed all the way down under $980, only to quickly rebound and now be right at the $1,150 mark and possibly headed over $1,200 again. Thanks to this latest bump, my rx 470's are netting over $3/day... something I never would have thought possible, even 3 months ago! Granted, it's nowhere near the close to $10/day on the higher end GTX cards, but hopefully i will get on that train very soon.

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