Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s - page 5. (Read 29875 times)

1) FALSE
2) FALSE
3) FALSE

However, good luck with using this kind of arguments to prove your innocence.
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-That doesn't matter when you're months late
-If you would have delivered on time, people would not have needed refunds.
-No one has gotten MPP. I am still waiting on Upgrades..

HashFast_CL, it amazes me how you feel like you actually have a defense..

I mean, come on.. You work for HashFast.

This is more pathetic than when Josh Zerlan would go on his rants against his customers.

You seem to have a whole lot of time on your hands..

A check represents legal tender.  If you had a stronger argument, you wouldn't need to delve into such silly semantic games.

A "straight up con" wouldn't have

-designed, produced, and delivered multiple petahashes of the World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining ASIC
-given 105% refunds to the few who requested them
-given MPP for free as delay compensation

Madoff was a "straight up con."
Pirate@40 was a "straight up con."
Labcoin was a ""straight up con."

Maybe you should be more careful with your choice of words, because when you accuse a legitimate business of being a "straight up con" it makes you look unwise and less than credible.

How much longer till MPP and upgrades?

Thanks for helping make my point, that HashFast's ToS do not provide for windfalls or otherwise create unlimited liability on our part in the event of massive BTC/USD fluctuations.

Any interpretation of the ToS claiming HashFast must provide windfalls or otherwise be infinitely liable for BTC/USD fluctuation is not reasonable, much less enforceable.

MPP is coming Soon^TM.  Sit tight and be patient.  Great things come to those who wait!   

that would be great, because support still ignoring my emails...

Wait, you sent gmaxwell Federal Reserve Notes??? If you didn't send Federal Reserve Notes, then it makes absolutely no difference what is written on them, because you didn't send him any.

If you actually did then you're using our property to mine for yourselves.  I agree with Micky25, stalling for time, why else would HashFast hire a corporate collections professional to head their customer service department?

You probably are very familiar with it, because it seems to be the main principle of HashLast when it comes to customer value.

The way you avoid answers about production numbers and delivery dates makes me think, again, that HashLast has initiated the shutdown sequence and is closing.

And you are only buying time with your pathetic tries to bend reality and business rules, to make them fit to your own delusional paradigms.

Wow, I've been following Hashfast hoping to buy from them after they worked the kinks out of their first batches but after reading the stories in the various threads on here I gotta say I wouldn't go near them.

You contradict yourself and change your story so much it is hard to take you seriously.  It's also pretty incredible that you are here disparaging your customers for asking you to hold up your end of the bargain.

A check isn't legal tender, cash and coin is. You were also apparently forcing people to agree to additional terms and conditions if they accepted that check.  That isn't a refund that is hush money and it appears that no one is buying your crap so now you are on here calling them names!

Hashfast seems to be the one wanting to hold onto ill gotten windfall profits.  You guys look to have been totally incompetent in your execution and when you realized you were sitting on $100 Million+ is USD gains because of Bitcoins price increase you decided to hire a lawyer to try and keep it even though you failed in every respect to provide the products your customers paid you for in a timely fashion even by your own changing definition of on time.  In the mean time you put on a good show of trying your hardest to fix your issues while you fend off the lawsuits from the customers you defrauded and end up with a nice pile of cash/Bitcoin if it all works out in your favor in a few years when all the lawsuits are resolved.  Incredible.

Anyone want to make a BTC bet that someone from Hashfast ends up in prison for fraud before this is all over because I gotta say it's looking more and more like a straight up con.

You did not replace the broken BBJet I got. It's still underperforming even after a few firmware updates. The initial emails I got said "if this firmware does not fix it, I'll have a replacement board shipped to you on Monday". Lies. Breach of contract.

You did not ship out any of the MPP on the BBJets of Batch #1 you shipped. The MPP calculation started 1st of November, so you could have shipped it out the 1st of Feb. You did not. So yet another breach of contract

Do I need to bring up the still-to-ship upgrade kits? Batch #2 Sierras? The MPP on those Sierras?

How many breaches of contract are you looking at at this point? 5?

Plus the pertinent lies your marketing crew spewed up luring in punters, like "we'll do full BTC refunds"

You did not offer me a refund, you offered me a settlement— as was plainly stated. The settlement was for a fraction of what you owe me according to our established agreement and had burdensome additional terms which I have never and will never agree to. (If we're to be pedantic: You also did not offer me federal reserve notes, fwiw.)

No court is going to ignore that you ignored a mountain of letters from me and my months long good faith effort to sort this out in a mutually agreeable manner, no court is going to ignore that you've never offered me a _refund_ just an additional contract "settlement" for a fraction of our agreed on terms. No court is going to ignore that you you're now publicly claiming that you're not going to pay me anything at all.

As I pointed out in prior (I believe now deleted) messages: I would happily take alternative compensation for your default and would even prefer alternative compensation if it was mutually beneficial. What I wouldn't accept is a tiny fraction of a refund plus a "disparagement agreement" while you walk away with a huge windfall and leave dozens of other customers screwed over here— while the "disparagement agreement" left me less able to help them.

But speaking of court— you're saying you're so confident about the outcome, OKAY— where is my release from the forced arbitration so we can actually take it to court without a months long dispute over the proper venue?

Oh brother, could you possibly be more maudlin and self-pitying?   

A 105% refund is not "nothing" no matter how much you prefer a 600% windfall.

No court is going to ignore the fact you refused a refund in legal tender.

Have you read a Federal Reserve Note lately?  It does what it says on the label (settle all debts, public and private).

I have a standing relationship with an attorney for a multitude of reasons.  I don't know why you keep talking about "bother the state of california", I believe I've not yet ever communicated with the state of California on any matter what-so-ever, and certainly not you or your company. You need to discontinue your lying here.

Okay, release me from the forced arbitration clause so that there isn't ton of time wasted arguing about the venue— since you're so confident that you'll prevail— and I'll go head with lawsuit now that you've _finally_ admitted that you're planning on actually returning nothing at all— and not leaving me thinking that you just have not been getting my letters.

By taking my funds and giving absolutely nothing, no refund no product you are a thief. And perhaps really what I should be doing is perusing criminal charges. Your theft is not just a civil matter at this point: No theory of law enables you to take peoples funds and give them nothing and then argue that they've somehow forfeit your obligation because you've successfully ignored all their attempts to communicate or negotiate and they wouldn't take a tiny fractional one-sided 'settlement' with onerous additional terms.

Why did you agree to be a windfall?

How can you offer full btc refunds thinking the price will be stable? Are you new to bitcoin? Since the invention of bitcoin, we have yet to see a period longer than a few days let alone months where the price did not swing dramatically. If you did not understand that then you should not be doing business in bitcoin.

Then you create a windfall protection plan by offering possible compensation for delays.

Then you decide to give neither btc refunds or the extra hashing power which was the only reason people decided to go with your company.

Then you complain that it is the customers who are mistakenly looking for a windfall when you sold them a windfall.

Good luck in court.

You have time to complain to the forum, bother the State of Californa, and hire a lawyer.

But you don't have time to actually pursue a case in court?

More like, you know your quest for a ~600% gain for doing nothing is doomed to fail if it ever reached a proper venue.

Better stick to the court of public opinion, where your narrative of victimization may fool a few rubes.

"Emotional tolerance?"  IOW, you can't stand the idea of a judge ruling your demand for a free pony named Windfall is ludicrous.  That buyer's remorse is just awful, isn't it?   

"Contract?"

Sorry, but that's just a post on an internet forum, not a contract.  The ToS are binding, not statements made during an extended period of relative BTC/USD stability (just prior to an unpredictable and unprecedented explosion in BTC value).



Not many customers took advantage of the full refund provision, but some did, and they have been paid (except for those windfall-seekers who returned the check and now tell lies about how HashFast sent them nothing).

If you refuse a more-than-full refund in legal tender (IE USD) there is no longer a breach to cure.

Here's the contract.


Who was refunded 105% BTC? No one? That's the breach.