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August 26, 2013, 06:20:44 AM
FYPFY.  Lots are generally 25 not 2 wafers. 

If they are doing a rocket run a single lot is very likely.  As indicated above even at 100% yield 25 wafers is only 4,525 chips.
IceDrill has bought 250 TH/s of gear.  At a nominal 400 GH/s per chip that is 625 chips.  They sold another 550 direct and will have to allocate up to 2,200 more for the MPP.  So up to 3,375 chips are already allocated.   

I assume they will use the excess chips (plus any in the MPP allocation not needed) to either self mine or offer additional sales once pre-orders have been delivered.

That all adds up !

We'll never know whether IceDrill was offered the same MPP, and whether he/she is buying chips or assembled units.
Hashfast have said they will announce multi chip devices in November, and the MPP chips could come from a 2nd production run perhaps ?

IceDrill indicated they were not given the MPP it was for "retail" customers only and they also indicated they will take delivery of raw chips directly. 

As for a second run it is possible but unless they intend to do a second rocket run that would be tight to have completed by November so maybe they went with two lots (50 wafers) and that would give them more chips upfront.



They have to save chips for the MPP incase things do go wrong. I'm sure they wouldn't want to be in a position where they offered this program but are unable to honor it because they didn't have the chips.

I know, right?  And another batch of chips for warranty & repair ... oh, wait, is the warranty still ten days? Cheesy
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Gerald Davis
August 26, 2013, 05:57:22 AM
FYPFY.  Lots are generally 25 not 2 wafers. 

If they are doing a rocket run a single lot is very likely.  As indicated above even at 100% yield 25 wafers is only 4,525 chips.
IceDrill has bought 250 TH/s of gear.  At a nominal 400 GH/s per chip that is 625 chips.  They sold another 550 direct and will have to allocate up to 2,200 more for the MPP.  So up to 3,375 chips are already allocated.   

I assume they will use the excess chips (plus any in the MPP allocation not needed) to either self mine or offer additional sales once pre-orders have been delivered.

That all adds up !

We'll never know whether IceDrill was offered the same MPP, and whether he/she is buying chips or assembled units.
Hashfast have said they will announce multi chip devices in November, and the MPP chips could come from a 2nd production run perhaps ?

IceDrill indicated they were not given the MPP it was for "retail" customers only and they also indicated they will take delivery of raw chips directly. 

As for a second run it is possible but unless they intend to do a second rocket run that would be tight to have completed by November so maybe they went with two lots (50 wafers) and that would give them more chips upfront.

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August 26, 2013, 05:54:26 AM
FYPFY.  Lots are generally 25 not 2 wafers.  

If they are doing a rocket run a single lot is very likely.  As indicated above even at 100% yield 25 wafers is only 4,525 chips.
IceDrill has bought 250 TH/s of gear.  At a nominal 400 GH/s per chip that is 625 chips.  They sold another 550 direct and will have to allocate up to 2,200 more for the MPP.  So up to 3,375 chips are already allocated.  

I assume they will use the excess chips (plus any in the MPP allocation not needed) to either self mine or offer additional sales once pre-orders have been delivered.

That all adds up !

We'll never know whether IceDrill was offered the same MPP, and whether he/she is buying chips or assembled units.
Perhaps the MPP chips could come from a 2nd production run, and the extra chips have another purpose ?
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Gerald Davis
August 26, 2013, 05:47:32 AM
What's going to happen to the rest of your chips

I'm sure you'll generate tens of thousands of chips from (I'm assuming) 25 or more wafers

FYPFY.  Lots are generally 25 not 2 wafers.  

If they are doing a rocket run a single lot is very likely.  As indicated above even at 100% yield 25 wafers is only 4,525 chips.
IceDrill has bought 250 TH/s of gear.  At a nominal 400 GH/s per chip that is 625 chips.  They sold another 550 direct and will have to allocate up to 2,200 more for the MPP.  So up to 3,375 chips are already allocated.   

I assume they will use the excess chips (plus any in the MPP allocation not needed) to either self mine or offer additional sales once pre-orders have been delivered.

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August 26, 2013, 01:49:50 AM
What's going to happen to the rest of your chips

I'm sure you'll generate tens of thousands of chips from (I'm assuming) 2 or more wafers
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August 26, 2013, 01:47:36 AM
First Batch is SOLD OUT!
-John
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August 26, 2013, 01:46:13 AM
Also, don't forget that those of you lucky enough to get a box now will most likely be able to install the Golden Nonce 2 once it comes out.

Are you saying that the chip is socketed so it can be removed and replaced with a different chip?

No, I am not.

I don't think they are going to have the luxury of time needed to include a socketed solution as time of delivery is most  important to them.

But hopefully the chip will be mounted on a solution that can be easily plugged in.

That is correct. The first batch of chips will be packaged into modules that can be plugged in.
-John
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August 26, 2013, 01:10:26 AM
Also, don't forget that those of you lucky enough to get a box now will most likely be able to install the Golden Nonce 2 once it comes out.

Are you saying that the chip is socketed so it can be removed and replaced with a different chip?

No, I am not.

I don't think they are going to have the luxury of time needed to include a socketed solution as time of delivery is most  important to them.

But hopefully the chip will be mounted on a solution that can be easily plugged in.
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August 25, 2013, 09:17:25 PM
Also, don't forget that those of you lucky enough to get a box now will most likely be able to install the Golden Nonce 2 once it comes out.

Are you saying that the chip is socketed so it can be removed and replaced with a different chip?
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August 25, 2013, 02:02:14 PM
It looks like we'll be sold out by tomorrow.
-John

Well, it should be no surprise, especially since you've so generously decided to account for this in BTC.

Anyone not taking advantage of such a program as this is making a huge mistake since it's a one time offer.

All those trying desperately to frame this as equivalent to a pre delivery refund are foolish and shills. This is a great put option that could launch you into profitability once the difficulty levels off, which it will,  probably around the time this is scheduled to take effect.

Also, don't forget that those of you lucky enough to get a box now will most likely be able to install the Golden Nonce 2 once it comes out.
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August 25, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
It looks like we'll be sold out by tomorrow.
-John
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August 25, 2013, 11:11:27 AM
Only 39 rigs left that will have the MPP.
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August 21, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
All I see coming out of your responses and those of the company representatives is PR. Not A single concrete answer for the multitude of questions asked, most very simple. If I ran any of my businesses this way I would not be in business any more, and would be ashamed to admit it. At least BFL is a known quantity.

it's a startup.  how concrete do you expect them to be?

alot of questions have been answered to the best of their ability.
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August 21, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
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what Simon is trying to achieve is unprecedented in the mining industry.  as mrb and others have pointed out, it's a risky proposition going so small in terms of pushing the boundaries of heat build up.  but if he succeeds, the cost savings will blow the doors off all competitors and make the MPP a unique program to HF. 
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"Unprecedented in the mining industry."
"pushing the boundaries of heat build up."
"blow the doors off all competitors."
Another content-free bump, asking us to:

♪♪HoOoOoldon to that feeEeEeling!♪♪
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August 21, 2013, 10:45:39 AM
All I see coming out of your responses and those of the company representatives is PR. Not A single concrete answer for the multitude of questions asked, most very simple. If I ran any of my businesses this way I would not be in business any more, and would be ashamed to admit it. At least BFL is a known quantity.
legendary
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August 21, 2013, 10:25:25 AM
i'm in san jose at my hotel.  looking forward to going into HashFast tomorrow.

already tucked all current questions into my phone and sent them off via email to John and Eduardo.  hopefully i'll get the answers to all of them tomorrow.

now's the time to put up any others.  let me know.

Any updates ?

my updates consist of pretty much of what i was able to get them to release yesterday. the details of Amy Woodward's post are most important.

i was there with them until 7:30 PM.  they are all working hard to try and complete the tapeout.  as you know, it's an iterative and unpredictable process but they are very close.  i spent most of the day just trying to get them to clarify some of the policies that they have set forth here on the forum in terms of the warranty and MPP.  they've made much progress and the details of these should be made available shortly.

what Simon is trying to achieve is unprecedented in the mining industry.  as mrb and others have pointed out, it's a risky proposition going so small in terms of pushing the boundaries of heat build up.  but if he succeeds, the cost savings will blow the doors off all competitors and make the MPP a unique program to HF. 

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August 21, 2013, 05:33:03 AM
i'm in san jose at my hotel.  looking forward to going into HashFast tomorrow.

already tucked all current questions into my phone and sent them off via email to John and Eduardo.  hopefully i'll get the answers to all of them tomorrow.

now's the time to put up any others.  let me know.

Any updates ?

I believe that he might still be in bed. It's not even morning over there.   Smiley
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August 21, 2013, 05:28:34 AM
i'm in san jose at my hotel.  looking forward to going into HashFast tomorrow.

already tucked all current questions into my phone and sent them off via email to John and Eduardo.  hopefully i'll get the answers to all of them tomorrow.

now's the time to put up any others.  let me know.

Any updates ?
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August 21, 2013, 01:27:46 AM
so i find out HF was selling chunks of BTC all weekend long.
And what did the price do?  It goes UP, way UP.
So much for junior economist crumbs and his fan boys, Bargraphics and erschiesen

 This comment is so inane that it's finally forced me to put you on ignore.

 Unbelievable.



And this guy is a "Financial Analyst."  It's really amazing.
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August 20, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
We've posted a new update on our blog:
https://hashfast.com/countdown-to-tapeout/

-John

So - this is an excuse to bump every fucking hashfast thread ? as I see you are hitting each one with this shit..

you guys are fucking annoying..

(ps - don't forget the 10 warranty gaff thread... lol)
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