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January 20, 2016, 07:56:34 AM


 If you put the % of maintenence price , it will be much lesser then %1 per day. It will probably go lower then the cost of keeping them and you will have loss everyday you keep it. Not anytime soon but it will be there until june.

No this is calculated after maintenance. At 390 USD/BTC and 0.18 per THs you are mining about 0.00157 BTC/Ths/day net, which is 0.9% yield per day. Or in so hated ROI terms 115 days Wink
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January 20, 2016, 07:48:45 AM
The amount of hash mining is absolutely staggering. A year ago it was about 300 million GH/s, now it´s about
900 million. That is the average of the last 504 blocks mined. The hash at the last adjustment, Jan 13th, was 811 million. I think the diff increase will end up lower than this indicates, they mine like crazy within the adjustment period and big players/cabal turn off gear towards the end of the period to influence the adjustment. Maybe it´ll be like 5%, even less it´s difficult to tell.

It went over 1 billion the other day, it was all over the news. It keeps going up and up. This is why the only way to keep this industry profitable is for BTC price to double before halving.
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January 20, 2016, 07:00:00 AM
The amount of hash mining is absolutely staggering. A year ago it was about 300 million GH/s, now it´s about
900 million. That is the average of the last 504 blocks mined. The hash at the last adjustment, Jan 13th, was 811 million. I think the diff increase will end up lower than this indicates, they mine like crazy within the adjustment period and big players/cabal turn off gear towards the end of the period to influence the adjustment. Maybe it´ll be like 5%, even less it´s difficult to tell.
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January 20, 2016, 06:58:47 AM


 If you put the % of maintenence price , it will be much lesser then %1 per day. It will probably go lower then the cost of keeping them and you will have loss everyday you keep it. Not anytime soon but it will be there until june.
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January 20, 2016, 06:49:28 AM

 I wish there was an option of investing in dropping prices. S5 obviously going down hard and there is no limit on how hard it will fall. The biggest barrier is at 18010 and thats only 25000G.
At 0.18 you are close to return 1% per day on mining so I doubt it can go lower for now. Next difficulty change doesn't look horrible too.
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January 20, 2016, 06:43:49 AM
What all this obviously means is that no, cloud mining operations aren´t selling you hash out of the goodness of their hearts, you´re in effect financing their mining equipment. It´s a great deal for them because very few people actually make any money out of this (get back money loaned) except of course the referral shills that convince people to join these largely hopeless deals. They get their commission for the victims provided.

This is true but I ve seen people making money on cloud mining operations which allow hash trading. I am one of these people. The other option s constant reinvesting large chunck of your payouts which does signficanlty prolong ROI time. Is all this worth that trouble?

I sincerely do not know anymore.

What s become a reality is that making money in crypto s become extremely hard due to harsh competition. Good old easy day are behind us.

Yes, this model where you can trade the hash is the only one which remotely makes sense in cloud mining. For the customers that is. It is possible to make some money, although I doubt that many do, and you can at least cash out when you like.

It´s too much to say that cloud mining is a scam, at least those that actually operate mining gear, but certainly it´s misleading. They prey on the ignorance of the customers. Lifetime contracts and all that. It´s meaningless when difficulty keeps ballooning.
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January 20, 2016, 04:52:29 AM

 I wish there was an option of investing in dropping prices. S5 obviously going down hard and there is no limit on how hard it will fall. The biggest barrier is at 18010 and thats only 25000G.
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January 20, 2016, 02:39:23 AM
What all this obviously means is that no, cloud mining operations aren´t selling you hash out of the goodness of their hearts, you´re in effect financing their mining equipment. It´s a great deal for them because very few people actually make any money out of this (get back money loaned) except of course the referral shills that convince people to join these largely hopeless deals. They get their commission for the victims provided.

This is true but I ve seen people making money on cloud mining operations which allow hash trading. I am one of these people. The other option s constant reinvesting large chunck of your payouts which does signficanlty prolong ROI time. Is all this worth that trouble?

I sincerely do not know anymore.

What s become a reality is that making money in crypto s become extremely hard due to harsh competition. Good old easy day are behind us.
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January 20, 2016, 12:48:09 AM
What all this obviously means is that no, cloud mining operations aren´t selling you hash out of the goodness of their hearts, you´re in effect financing their mining equipment. It´s a great deal for them because very few people actually make any money out of this (get back money loaned) except of course the referral shills that convince people to join these largely hopeless deals. They get their commission for the victims provided.
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January 20, 2016, 12:14:27 AM
Total mining hash in the world has about doubled in the last four months. This is chasing a fixed amount of BTC being mined each day so yes, you´ve been experiencing decreasing payouts. Well, it´s not totally fixed per day but just about. I guess it´s 140-150 blocks per day plus or minus.

The way this works is that the bitcoin protocol assumes an average block generation time of 600 seconds. When hash is added to the system more blocks are obviously found so the generation time decreases. After 2016 blocks generated, which takes 12-14 days, bitcoin adjusts the generation time back to 600 seconds. If for example the generation time has fallen to 540 seconds over the period, difficulty increases by about 11%. More hash results in less payout on average per unit of hash.

If total hash decreases, this works in reverse. Block generation time increases and difficulty goes down correspondingly.

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January 19, 2016, 12:15:23 PM
earning from s7 was decreased significantly in these days, can anyone explain the reason?


Uhm...maybe difficulty growth and BTC price decrease? Have you considered those?

yes usually one of them is the level of difficulty increases and it is clear earning will decreased . I also experienced it.
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January 19, 2016, 10:52:08 AM
earning from s7 was decreased significantly in these days, can anyone explain the reason?


Uhm...maybe difficulty growth and BTC price decrease? Have you considered those?

And also bad luck in pool...... periodically happens...
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January 19, 2016, 10:44:01 AM
earning from s7 was decreased significantly in these days, can anyone explain the reason?


Uhm...maybe difficulty growth and BTC price decrease? Have you considered those?
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January 19, 2016, 10:35:17 AM
earning from s7 was decreased significantly in these days, can anyone explain the reason?
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January 19, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
The prices for the S5 are low so that my GHS is almost nothing worth. Sad
Before the big difficulty increase, my GHS were 0.75 BTC worth. After the big difficulty increase my GHS is 0.30 BTC worth. This in fact 0.46 BTC (60%) loss.

God knows, my GHS is in February only 0.15 BTC worth.

R.I.P. S3

after 7 days of mining with s7 as a test I lost 15%, when I resell on the market. Conclusion: Good business for Hashnest, bad for me. :-)

If you bought the hashes on hashnest market hashnest as company has nothing from your purchase except trading fee.
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January 19, 2016, 06:28:23 AM

 Don't sell when it is the latest miner on the market.

 Buy whatever comes next. Hold it , get your money back with mining, then if there is a new one on the market , sell yours.

 If you sell it during any of this time , you may lose your coins of course. The resell your hash option is not there for 1 week hashing , its there when you are done with it , dump it.
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January 19, 2016, 06:25:25 AM
The prices for the S5 are low so that my GHS is almost nothing worth. Sad
Before the big difficulty increase, my GHS were 0.75 BTC worth. After the big difficulty increase my GHS is 0.30 BTC worth. This in fact 0.46 BTC (60%) loss.

God knows, my GHS is in February only 0.15 BTC worth.

R.I.P. S3

after 7 days of mining with s7 as a test I lost 15%, when I resell on the market. Conclusion: Good business for Hashnest, bad for me. :-)
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January 18, 2016, 03:32:06 PM
I got it from the shop. And, like some guys told me on here when I asked that same question that it is really up to you whether you think it is worth it or not.

I personally like the PACMiC v2 contract because I didn't purchase them expecting too much. Just small interest (14% really isn't small when compared to a bank)on some bitcoin holdings.  And, with bitcoin prices looking a little healthier recently I have no problem leaving the auto-buy feature enabled which prolongs my principal payback, but allows it to grow slightly more.

V2 can't be purchased anymore.
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January 18, 2016, 02:09:28 PM
I got it from the shop. And, like some guys told me on here when I asked that same question that it is really up to you whether you think it is worth it or not.

I personally like the PACMiC v2 contract because I didn't purchase them expecting too much. Just small interest (14% really isn't small when compared to a bank)on some bitcoin holdings.  And, with bitcoin prices looking a little healthier recently I have no problem leaving the auto-buy feature enabled which prolongs my principal payback, but allows it to grow slightly more.

If u do leave autobuy on, this means u buy more contracts. How do make money on it then? Instead of payouts, u get more shares.
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January 18, 2016, 01:57:54 PM
I got it from the shop. And, like some guys told me on here when I asked that same question that it is really up to you whether you think it is worth it or not.

I personally like the PACMiC v2 contract because I didn't purchase them expecting too much. Just small interest (14% really isn't small when compared to a bank)on some bitcoin holdings.  And, with bitcoin prices looking a little healthier recently I have no problem leaving the auto-buy feature enabled which prolongs my principal payback, but allows it to grow slightly more.
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