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My advice in the future is that if he still blames you for gambling, in the future don't come or take him to the casino again, let him come alone, so that you don't backfire on him, I'm sure he will regret his own behavior.

I think you are totally hitting the point.
Helping once is great, but if the person doesn't want to learn - what can you do?
Pretty obvious to me.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
There are two possibilities in this case that you could be said to be wrong, indeed you would be considered wrong for asking him to go and secondly you could also backfire from the defeat he experienced, it's all a factor of your friend's own greed.

My understanding is that you are not wrong, in my opinion you have saved him from real losses, what you did accidentally saved him from the suffering of gambling, Let him grumble that it's important that you have done something useful even though he himself doesn't admit it because of his arrogance and greed.

My advice in the future is that if he still blames you for gambling, in the future don't come or take him to the casino again, let him come alone, so that you don't backfire on him, I'm sure he will regret his own behavior.
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Taking him away from that gambling shop is a mean of instilling discipline on him truly he could have been tempted to continue to gamble more due to greediness consequently might ended up losing all his already won bets, this is common and rampant among gamblers it's a like a spirit tempting them to continue betting with guarantee of winning streak whereas it's just a spirit of addiction, this is a more lesson learnt here and that is how addiction to gambling is started if caution or discipline is not imbibed on any gambler to stop it is very disastrous.
That is how gambling tempt people to chase their win. People lose control because they want to win more money from gambling. But they must know that not many gamblers can win more money but they can lose their money.

The temptation will become bigger if they think they can win for more without think about the losing. Their greediness will also make them forget to stops gambling after they win. But his friend should thank you to @OP because he can drag him out from gambling before something bad happen.

We hope that we have a good friend that will always remind us especially in gambling. They can take care of us and watch us while gambling so they can do something when they feels something different happen.
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

What you said is true but most people are not as thoughtful as us specially the gamblers. There are various reasons why gamblers have a different mentality when they gamble. They might believe on lucky streak or some superstition. A fried of mine believed the gambling luck depends on the movement of the planets and placed bet when the specific planets aligned. The act done by OP might be a noble one but I hardly believe his gambler friend thinks so.
The better thing to do was to tell the person about how you think and don't get involved physically. OP and his friend might have been too close to get physical but most gamblers won't take it in a positive way.

You are right.
It may end badly otherwise for the person even if he would try to be nice.
It would be really great if OP's friend would eventually appreciate it.
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

What you said is true but most people are not as thoughtful as us specially the gamblers. There are various reasons why gamblers have a different mentality when they gamble. They might believe on lucky streak or some superstition. A fried of mine believed the gambling luck depends on the movement of the planets and placed bet when the specific planets aligned. The act done by OP might be a noble one but I hardly believe his gambler friend thinks so.
The better thing to do was to tell the person about how you think and don't get involved physically. OP and his friend might have been too close to get physical but most gamblers won't take it in a positive way.
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I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

         -       I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.
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On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
You acted out of love and concern for you friend because you're probably more experienced or more disciplined about gambling. Some decisions are not easy to take but sometimes you need to take drastic steps inorder to save a friend from making mistakes so I believe that you did the right thing. Gambling requires sell control, without it a gambler can unknowingly become obsessed and at that point he needs a force that will bring him back to reality. Every gambler must fight that urge to over gamble, it starts with overconfidence to increase wins and chasing loses, they're the keys to addiction.
Pulling someone out when they are on a winning streak is sometimes gratitude but sometimes disgust, if a friend is mentally strong enough they will be grateful when their friend helps them not get caught up in the game and the material things in front of them but sometimes it is a reverse anger. In general, kindness does not need a return, gratitude is good but someone reflects with anger, let them continue and honestly, we have qualified as a good friend, there is nothing wrong with continuing on their journey.
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On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
You acted out of love and concern for you friend because you're probably more experienced or more disciplined about gambling. Some decisions are not easy to take but sometimes you need to take drastic steps inorder to save a friend from making mistakes so I believe that you did the right thing. Gambling requires sell control, without it a gambler can unknowingly become obsessed and at that point he needs a force that will bring him back to reality. Every gambler must fight that urge to over gamble, it starts with overconfidence to increase wins and chasing loses, they're the keys to addiction.
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We all know that gambling can be really addictive, and continuously doing that and making it a hobby can lead to losing more money. I think it's pretty easy to get caught up with excitement and the possibility of winning more money.

You acted out like that because you were concerned for him. If he still comes back, I don't think it's your fault anymore. It's because he wants to, and you do that is good, in my opinion.

With the reasoning of the "possibility" of winning more, it's just a risk. It shouldn't be like that. You are a good friend, but if he continues, he needs to realize what he is doing on his own.
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On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
You took him there and you got him out. That’s should be your bone of contention. From what I find in the OP, it was your idea to go to the betshop and so, whatever the case was, it was always going to have its root with you. If the case was a lose, am sure your friend would have blamed it on you to have brought him in a gambling shop.

No need to feel bad about it, you just might have helped your friend save some money and that’s what friends do. He got his luck and it’s okay to be contented haven’t won few tickets.
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Don't guilt trip on that. You didn't do any wrong by dragging him out of that scene. Your action was what any reasonable friend should do. By the way, if your friend was so sure of his winnings as he alleged, why didn't he increase his stakes in the few games he played on that day? That's what you should be asking him. Winning first two or three rounds wasn't a guarantee that he would win the next one if that was his consolation. But then, that has often been the mindset of gamblers.
There are times that gamblers are drowned by their belief that they have a lucky strike ongoing and that a friend of his must be feeling that moment which is why he cannot stop.

You are right, a reasonable friend will drag him out of there when he is winning and that's the best action that he could do, I don't think he should be blaming himself for doing the right thing.
Now, there are gamblers who would hate their friends for doing such a thing, in that case, that's on him. You are not responsible for what will happen next and if ever he blames you for losing the next time, tell him he should look for a new friend that will accommodate his gambling actions.
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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.

You did the right thing. He is becoming too greedy, and becoming too greedy will lead you to lose a lot. He will thank you later.

The most challenging thing in gambling is to stop when you are winning. We are tempted to push our luck when luck is something that happens, not something we have.

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Taking him away from that gambling shop is a mean of instilling discipline on him truly he could have been tempted to continue to gamble more due to greediness consequently might ended up losing all his already won bets, this is common and rampant among gamblers it's a like a spirit tempting them to continue betting with guarantee of winning streak whereas it's just a spirit of addiction, this is a more lesson learnt here and that is how addiction to gambling is started if caution or discipline is not imbibed on any gambler to stop it is very disastrous.

You are right, but the fact is that the friend might keep wondering what could've happened if he was left playing an additional round, and that makes him not any good either. I think that it is important to learn a lesson by oneself. On the other hand, the OP was a good friend, but is it worth being shouted in the way back home (and possibly also in future) for wanting to do a favor to a friend?
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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.

You did the right thing. He is becoming too greedy, and becoming too greedy will lead you to lose a lot. He will thank you later.

The most challenging thing in gambling is to stop when you are winning. We are tempted to push our luck when luck is something that happens, not something we have.

Temptation is high, but our discipline should be even higher.
Taking him away from that gambling shop is a mean of instilling discipline on him truly he could have been tempted to continue to gamble more due to greediness consequently might ended up losing all his already won bets, this is common and rampant among gamblers it's a like a spirit tempting them to continue betting with guarantee of winning streak whereas it's just a spirit of addiction, this is a more lesson learnt here and that is how addiction to gambling is started if caution or discipline is not imbibed on any gambler to stop it is very disastrous.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Nope, you did a good thing.
A gambler who is experiencing a big loss or is getting a big win, they will forget themselves and their minds will be dominated by the thought of wanting to get a bigger win. And gamblers who get big wins like that are very difficult to give advice through soft words and you do it in the right way to lift them from gambling.
Maybe at that time he will be angry with you, but after the anger is gone, he will definitely thank you if you save him from greed.

Sometimes to help a gambler you don't have to use soft words but you have to use actions.
It is sad to say that many gamblers never appreciate the help of other gamblers to protect them from addiction. As gamblers, one thing we should have to know is to control ourselves. It may not be easy, but I believe we can do it if we care for ourselves as well. Greediness has nothing good it gives to us but terrible losses. We have to keep in mind that we gamble not only to win the jackpot and money but also for us to enjoy whatever happens. And most of all, we know how to appreciate others' advice because some things they see might not we see personally. That is why we don't get angry but rather be thankful.
Agree with you, As a gambler it is very important to always keep yourself under control, and always have confidence in yourself, and keep your spirits up. Greed and addiction will never give you positive results, they are always negative. Once you get addicted to gambling it will only lead you to losses. Moreover, due to addiction, many times we do not realize our own mistakes, and when others realize those mistakes, they warn us, so we should be grateful to them, not angry. And their advice should be followed and gambling should be viewed only as a pastime and not as a means of earning money. It only leads us to harm.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Nope, you did a good thing.
A gambler who is experiencing a big loss or is getting a big win, they will forget themselves and their minds will be dominated by the thought of wanting to get a bigger win. And gamblers who get big wins like that are very difficult to give advice through soft words and you do it in the right way to lift them from gambling.
Maybe at that time he will be angry with you, but after the anger is gone, he will definitely thank you if you save him from greed.

Sometimes to help a gambler you don't have to use soft words but you have to use actions.
It is sad to say that many gamblers never appreciate the help of other gamblers to protect them from addiction. As gamblers, one thing we should have to know is to control ourselves. It may not be easy, but I believe we can do it if we care for ourselves as well. Greediness has nothing good it gives to us but terrible losses. We have to keep in mind that we gamble not only to win the jackpot and money but also for us to enjoy whatever happens. And most of all, we know how to appreciate others' advice because some things they see might not we see personally. That is why we don't get angry but rather be thankful. 
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?

Your friend having won 3 games out of the four games he played was more than enough profit for the day, but like you did mentioned, he simply allowed greed to overtake him and you being a good friend tried to rescue him from possibly losing all that had previously won and maybe even more, but it's unfortunate he did not understand, but don't mind him and be proud of yourself for doing the right thing.

Some one like me wouldn't have bothered him when he refused to go home, I would have just left him there to gamble to his satisfaction, if at the end of the day, he end up winning even much more, I will gladly celebrate with him, but if he ended up losing all the money he had won previously,  and maybe even much more, as a friend, I will sympathize and console him for the loss, atleast, rhat will teach him a lesson next time.

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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Well, sorry but to be honest with you, this two questions are not really necessary, since none here aside from you know this friend you are talking about in person, you are the one close to the person in question, so you are in the best position to give the most accurate answers to this.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Nope, you did a good thing.
A gambler who is experiencing a big loss or is getting a big win, they will forget themselves and their minds will be dominated by the thought of wanting to get a bigger win. And gamblers who get big wins like that are very difficult to give advice through soft words and you do it in the right way to lift them from gambling.
Maybe at that time he will be angry with you, but after the anger is gone, he will definitely thank you if you save him from greed.

Sometimes to help a gambler you don't have to use soft words but you have to use actions.

That's true. In general, it's clear from the post that friendship with a gambler is hard. Look: if he loses in front of you, the gambler will blame you for not taking him away from this establishment. And if he wins, he will say that it's only his merit and he's a great guy.
As a result, it turns out that gamblers are mostly selfish people who will always find someone to blame, and are unlikely to praise anyone for their victory.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Nope, you did a good thing.
A gambler who is experiencing a big loss or is getting a big win, they will forget themselves and their minds will be dominated by the thought of wanting to get a bigger win. And gamblers who get big wins like that are very difficult to give advice through soft words and you do it in the right way to lift them from gambling.
Maybe at that time he will be angry with you, but after the anger is gone, he will definitely thank you if you save him from greed.

Sometimes to help a gambler you don't have to use soft words but you have to use actions.
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But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
You are right and if you'd not moved him outside of the gambling shop, he might have lost his money back. No one stays too long with gambling in a session and goes home so happy especially if they had the initial luck.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Yes and No. No, because you did the right thing. Yes, because you didn't let him learn bitterly by experience. That would have silenced him instead of making a mouth and blaming you.

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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
No one knows the outcome of gambling unless played.

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Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
He would have learned bitterly by then and know how to caution himself next time.
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