You have proven that you are one friend who wants the best for him. He may not see the good you have done at that moment but sooner or later he will realize that you stopped him from starting something he may regret or do at the end of the day. Just so you know I have never heard or seen someone who said they would just gamble for a few minutes or step in the gambling shop to walk away. It starts from the act of gambling once to steady gambling.
What had happened to your friend is very relatable. The first act of gambling leads to another win especially when we lose. We would want to gamble more because there is still enough funds to do it.
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Nobody knows if he could have won more games or maybe he was in his winning streak. However, what you did was the best because if he continues to win he might end up gambling more and at the end lose the little that he has profited and even lose Thebes money he went there with. But you prevented that from happening and your friend will not understand that you saved him from losing his profit. If only we gamblers can have people around us to stop us when we are gambling the wrong way.
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
You did what a friend is expected to do, as you didn't want to see him losing his hard earned money and the further negative consequences this loss would imply for his personal life. You tried to take care your friend the best you could on that moment and there is nothing wrong with that, even though nothing forbids him from coming back later to the betting shop without your presence to place more bets.Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
No, he probably would have lost all his money if you didn't prevent him from gambling. Your friend displays clear gambling addiction signals, as he is compulsive to continue gambling without knowing when to quit for his own good.Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
By what you reported, he would have continued until the losing the last penny, and that is really sad. He got somehow aggressive yelling on you after the incident as well, so it's quite worrying. 
Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.
If one begins to make steady profits through gambling, the logic naturally follows that more will be made by continuing to play. More often than not, this is a route to loss, especially when greed creeps in.
If your friend keeps on gambling, he might win big. On the other hand, he could just as easily lose every dime of his streak. Such is the nature of luck in gambling; it could turn at any instant. Walking away at a time when one is winning suffices as prudent, for avarice ordinarily ushers folks into playing further till they lose everything. That is what might happen if your friend does not stop.
It's an interesting discussion, especially when we look at how gambling can affect one's decision. So, while he may be sore at you, you actually did him a favor and saved him from losing much more.
If your friend keeps on gambling, he might win big. On the other hand, he could just as easily lose every dime of his streak. Such is the nature of luck in gambling; it could turn at any instant. Walking away at a time when one is winning suffices as prudent, for avarice ordinarily ushers folks into playing further till they lose everything. That is what might happen if your friend does not stop.
It's an interesting discussion, especially when we look at how gambling can affect one's decision. So, while he may be sore at you, you actually did him a favor and saved him from losing much more.
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
It's under probability, because the same way he would have won, that's the same way he would have lose too. Gambling is a game of luck, whose outcome is a product of the algorithm.It is not easy to get big wins, it really depends on luck and how the gambling algorithm works.
OP makes a good friend to remind and take his friend out before disaster strikes, but he may also be blamed when the bet made should have won big.
It would be wrong if someone who is already a gambling addict is prohibited from making bets.
But yes, just take the positive lessons, being addicted or betting without doing strategy and management is stupid.
Gamblers will be happy if they play it right and use it as entertainment, but it will be terrible if they just want to big win.
Why do you have to draw him out of the betting for going home, since he still have the money to spare for gambling and that is none of your business on whether he is losing or catching fun winning, at least he is enjoying the best of his time gambling, except if he is doing that form the purpose of making money of which he must have run lost earlier to that, gambling is our own individual decision to make and we don't have to allow any external constraint or party affect the way we are gong to enjoy playing it, if we lost then we chose to or knew already that it could happened, to you now, you think you have helped him while he is seeing it as an hindrance on allowing him to have more winning opportunity.
If you forced him out of the place probably because you are bigger than him or he has so much respect for you and you used that against him then I think you did something wrong because everyone deserves a chance to do what ever they choose to, you can only play your part and advice him but definitely you should not force him to do that which you want.
I believe in advising people and letting them make their own decisions, this way they face what ever the outcome maybe and take responsibility.
I believe in advising people and letting them make their own decisions, this way they face what ever the outcome maybe and take responsibility.
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
What you did was indeed the perfect decision any good friend would have done in scenarios like this, since it's obvious, he was already been carried away by his few winnings, because thou he may be upset at the moment when you carried him from the betting shop, I'm sure he will always thank you for that for knowing when to stop, because if he had gambled one more time, there is a higher tendency, it would have been disastrous, as luck doesn't come always.Quote
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
It's under probability, because the same way he would have won, that's the same way he would have lose too. Gambling is a game of luck, whose outcome is a product of the algorithm. hero member
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
If you had not dragged or carried him out of that place by force, chances that he would have won more or lose more is unimaginable. I wouldn't say it was for you to have dragged him out, perhaps he never had the intention to gambler that day but you were still the reason why he stepped into a bet shop that day, if you had not gone there to see your friend, there's no way he would feel the desire to place some bet. In my own opinion, you did well. Gambling result is unpredictable and he was not sure that he would have won.
This is a very hard condition.
Something that you feel right isn't always right for other people, especially in gambling where we have our own risk management. I can accept to lose $10 and looking to earn $50, while my friend might able to take risk to lose $100 and looking to earn $1K.
Can't really say that you're done completely correct, although in some context you're right.
Something that you feel right isn't always right for other people, especially in gambling where we have our own risk management. I can accept to lose $10 and looking to earn $50, while my friend might able to take risk to lose $100 and looking to earn $1K.
Can't really say that you're done completely correct, although in some context you're right.
Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
On a second thought, maybe you would just left your friend to continue gambling, since he was obviously yelling at you as you guys were on your way back, since he clearly cannot see the good deed you did for him.a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You played a fantastic role as a friend, he had already won some games, in fact he even doubled the money he initially started staking with, so it was the right time to go after all, it wasn't something you guys planned.
OP, your story helps to illuminate the fact that greed is one of the major factors affecting the growth of some gamblers.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Because greed is the eternal companion of all gamblers and it is the greed of gamblers that the casino manipulates.Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
This is a correct, truly friendly act, aimed at performing a good deed for his friend. Otherwise, he would lose all his winnings.Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
He would have lost, because the longer you gamble, the higher the chances of losing (RTP 95%).Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
He won't stop until he loses all the money he has with him. I've seen such cases before. 
You know, people will appreciate you after you gone or you proved you're right.
In this case, even you did right thing, but your friend still think about the opportunity to make more money by gamble it. That's why he mad at you, he might don't want to gamble with you anymore. Don't worry about it, if he lose all of his money in the next gambling session or he become homeless, you will be the person that he remember for lifting him our from the casino.
In this case, even you did right thing, but your friend still think about the opportunity to make more money by gamble it. That's why he mad at you, he might don't want to gamble with you anymore. Don't worry about it, if he lose all of his money in the next gambling session or he become homeless, you will be the person that he remember for lifting him our from the casino.
I think there is nothing else I would say other than you are a very good friend and understand and also care about the various bad possibilities that could possibly befall your friend at that time which could very well cause an uncontrolled reaction, meaning that the action you took at that time was the right one.
Maybe we know that the ability to stop at the right time is something that every gambler must have, because with that ability a person will remain safe in a win or lose situation.
In that scenario I would say that if your friend continued to session 4 then yes of course he might be able to win again, but it is also very possible for him to lose, and when it turns out that in the end the result is really lost then I am sure it is very unlikely for him to stop and leave the betting shop, because the feeling of revenge will take over his mind and of course it can lead him to a much worse situation.
Basically it is a fact that real victory is when you are able to cash out the results of the victory.
Maybe we know that the ability to stop at the right time is something that every gambler must have, because with that ability a person will remain safe in a win or lose situation.
In that scenario I would say that if your friend continued to session 4 then yes of course he might be able to win again, but it is also very possible for him to lose, and when it turns out that in the end the result is really lost then I am sure it is very unlikely for him to stop and leave the betting shop, because the feeling of revenge will take over his mind and of course it can lead him to a much worse situation.
Basically it is a fact that real victory is when you are able to cash out the results of the victory.
Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Is very funny OP, I can imagine the look on his face because I have seen guys who spend time playing the virtual game only to end up losing everything after given the chance to go with the one they have won. You can only drag him out of the betting shop for that particular moment but not forever because he must definitely go back to try again when you're not around to stop him.
You did well because at that point you saved him from losing the little he won and his reaction towards you is expected because at that time he only sees himself winning and winning but he forget that the losing moment is very near and he'll lose everything, well is good you played the part of a good friend.
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
You did the right thing and before everything will go to worse its better to go away while everything is fine.
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
No, that doesn't guarantee any consistent win. If he choose to continue then became more greedy for gains, provably he might end up losing those gains and encounter huge negatives in his side which commonly happening in gambling scene.
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Depends if he want to chase his losses then provably he might continue. But if he's been hurt with the losses he get then don't have money to spend then automatically he would quit and try again next time.
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You did a good thing dragging him outside. Other wise he would have lost all the money he had won for that day. I think greed was already a part of his game from the start. He won the draft continuously and didn't want to stop until someone won him. He was also tempted to play virtual in the next stop because he wanted to multiply his !money even more. That's already greed playing on him. Probably if he continued playing he would have lost all he won back to them. And he would go home sad. He just became too greedy at the start and if not you he would go home with nothing.
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
You are not his father. You should let him decide for himself; you did not respect him by doing that; you can just warn him, but lifting him is a big disrespect.Quote
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Gambling is a game of luck. You never know what will happen next on your next bet; no one of us can say if he will win, but if your friend does not know how to stop, he will likely lose everything he gains.Quote
Again, if he loses all the money won, do you think he would continue or stop?
It's his money, so he can do whatever he wants. You can only advise him to stop and warn him about the outcome, and you can lose your friendship if he finds you annoying, so you better employ diplomacy.
Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You have done nothing wrong adbitco. Your friend is just a narcissistic gambler that finds his own fault to the others. It's nice that you're there because what might happen could've been worse if you're not there with him. And if he had won a lot, I don't think that he'll stop, he's already into it and the very first step that he's got in there, he knows that he's staying for a while. Don't feel bad if you are thinking like that and that's why you've shared it here. Next time, if that friend of yours ask you as his companion to his journeys just learn to say NO and let him go elsewhere and wherever he would like to go. That will be the last time for me if I am his friend because of that yelling. I can tolerate him with gambling decisions but yelling at me is something I wouldn't let pass. a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..
Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.
On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.
On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
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