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I would get pissed if my friend lift me out like that, he can just warn me to stop gambling and I will decide if I will leave or not, warning is all you should have done OP, lifting feels like disrespect for me but for your friend it seems he was angry for stopping him.

You are a good friend indeed and any gambler that use the word that they know what they are doing are stupid because no one knows what they are doing when gambling, that's why its a game of luck, all you know how to do and control is the money you decide to risk on gambling, everything else depend on luck.
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You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.

I am also sure that you shouldn't prevent a person from gaining his experience. The fact that the OP pulled him out that day doesn't mean taught him to be careful with his passion. The memory of a good game prevented from finishing remained in this person's head.
And what will he do next? He has an unfinished experience of victories, and now he will want to repeat it, knowing and remembering that he was lucky. And until he learns to stop on his own, all other warnings will only further incite his passion for the game.

Yeah, a dialogue about is needed too to reach the needed effect. At least a dialogue, I mean Grin
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You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.

I am also sure that you shouldn't prevent a person from gaining his experience. The fact that the OP pulled him out that day doesn't mean taught him to be careful with his passion. The memory of a good game prevented from finishing remained in this person's head.
And what will he do next? He has an unfinished experience of victories, and now he will want to repeat it, knowing and remembering that he was lucky. And until he learns to stop on his own, all other warnings will only further incite his passion for the game.
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On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
I think he was being greedy,from the games he played so far he was able to win big but was not satisfied with it due to greed and overconfidence. He feels winning is just by his own gambling skill or understanding,  this is the type of gambler that will keep playing untill he lose all the money in gambling trying to make more money. Greed is the main reason why people lose so much in gambling because their is no guarantee for one to win more games when continuing to gamble.
I think you helped him to secure is money by stopping him from playing because their won't be no how for him not to lose because it is easy to lose money in gambling when you play more.
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

Your kind is rare as a friend as per say some will definitely watch you stake with all you have and you either win or loose all of it,but you have done well and reminded him that no matter what he mustn't gamble with everything.

I know it's really hard for alot gamblers to understand that in the brisk of winning there's always a control button that says to you don't stop but you ought to know that.
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You did the right thing. Whatever he thinks next is up to him. You just want him to take home the winnings and that's the best choice against the house.

Now, if he wants to get back there, don't stop him. You've done your part and you won't be the one being blamed if he loses it all when he returns to the gambling area. I say he might even tell you that he should've listened to you in the first place.
There are people who get greedy whenever they feel they are lucky and your friend is an example of that. He thinks he knows what he is doing but greed is clouding his judgement.

Unfortunately, that's true. It's essential to learn from the sessions where greed is tempting us to give our prize back to the house, even if that is regretable in your mind because you could win more - it's not like that, usually.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

there is always a chance to win bigger. but you certainly know that there is also a possibility that your friend will lose everything. and I am sure that is what is on your mind.
your decision is right to invite your friend to go out. maybe your friend does not know the risks or maybe your friend is ready to lose.
I want to know how your friend usually behaves when he loses. is it normal for a regular gambler, or maybe he is quite emotional?

it doesn't matter if he will play again or not. but what you did to your friend must have created a new thought and understanding regarding how he should be calm in gambling.

I think your friend is lucky to have you when at the casino.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Do you think he was gambling more than he could afford to lose? If he was gambling within his income, there is nothing wrong with playing more games. But if your observation was that he was becoming greedy and gambling more than he could afford, then your action is justifiable.

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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Gambling outcomes as unpredictable. The answer to this question will only be revealed after he had finished gambling. He might lose more, win more, or be in a state of equilibrium.

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Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
If he had more money, he might continue to cover his losses. He might walk home if unluckily lost all he had won. His reaction will be solely based on how he feels.
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You did the right thing. Whatever he thinks next is up to him. You just want him to take home the winnings and that's the best choice against the house.

Now, if he wants to get back there, don't stop him. You've done your part and you won't be the one being blamed if he loses it all when he returns to the gambling area. I say he might even tell you that he should've listened to you in the first place.
There are people who get greedy whenever they feel they are lucky and your friend is an example of that. He thinks he knows what he is doing but greed is clouding his judgement.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
You are not wrong in this case because have helped you friend to stay on the safe track when gambling, if you do not decide to ask him out and stop the prolonged betting, something bad could happen.
Maybe he thinks to be able to make more wins and collect some money if he still has luck, but if not, it can also result in big loss and spend everything he has earned.
Moreover, if something bad really happens and loses all the money, it can trigger an emotional increase that can lead him to go further by using other additional money to bet again, in conditions like this it will be difficult for him to stop.
In this context, I quite salute you who still care about other people or it is you own friend.
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Fun fact for gambler.

Never brough any friend of you who are not gambler to do gambler, all the addiction and someone turn on to be gambler is because "friend" is introduce to them. It's one of the factor, did your friend is a gambler.

It's not, from my perspective you should be a shame cause we know gambling have serious problem and we don't want our friend got those.
You like it or you do not like it, people and even kids are exposed to gambling in this period of life that we are. Ashame for what? He is a good friend and he did the right thing. He did not even posted that his friend is new to gambling. Just that some gamblers are greedy in a way that if they are winning, they will continue to gamble until they started to lose. It is not about his friend is new to gambling or not.
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But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

You are a good friend and I feel that you are close to each other, from my point of view you have done nothing wrong but thinking about your friend's situation, it is quite embarrassing to be carried out of the gambling shop like a kid.

The second thing, your friend is not a minor I suppose he knows in himself that he knows what he is doing and that he is winning and he wanted to win more.  Carrying him out of the gambling shop is restricting his freedom although you have good intentions for him it is oppression.

Whether he win or lose all his money is out of your concern, you can remind him or tell him the possible consequences but the fact that you use physical force to stop him makes him feel oppressed.  I would also get annoyed if you do that to me because the action would embarrass me and at the same time you are oppressing my freedom of choice.
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Kind of? I mean yeah, you had the best intentions sure but that's a YOU thing. Not a him thing. No one really wants someone else bothering you from doing something, regardless of how kind your intentions are. If he asked for help or told you to warn him when he's going past some limit, then yeah sure go do your thing. But if not, then just warn him at most, and if he doesn't acknowledge it then leave him to his actions.

As for him winning or losing god knows really. I mean I reckon you'd probably have better opinions than me, he's your friend lol. Same with the results, it's a gamble man. It's 50/50.
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You did the right thing to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more because he was start to becomes greedy and wants more winning. He doesn't realizes that his wins can turn into lose once his greed increase so he must thanks to you because you can act fast to save him. Although he say that he can win once more, there still no guarantee for him to win again in gambling and you know that so you did the right thing.

Greed can rollover him and makes him lose much money. The chance of the next win will be there but not big than his losses in the next match. So he must realizes that you only saves him and don't want to see he lose much money in the next match. If he lose in the next match, he will difficult to stops himself because his minds will telling him to keep playing gambling. You don't have to thinks much about his yelling because you don't want to see your friend becomes greed.

I think what was done is right and greed shouldn't plant its seeds from the get-go, because it's very hard to get rid of Grin
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You did the right thing to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more because he was start to becomes greedy and wants more winning. He doesn't realizes that his wins can turn into lose once his greed increase so he must thanks to you because you can act fast to save him. Although he say that he can win once more, there still no guarantee for him to win again in gambling and you know that so you did the right thing.

Greed can rollover him and makes him lose much money. The chance of the next win will be there but not big than his losses in the next match. So he must realizes that you only saves him and don't want to see he lose much money in the next match. If he lose in the next match, he will difficult to stops himself because his minds will telling him to keep playing gambling. You don't have to thinks much about his yelling because you don't want to see your friend becomes greed.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Your friend won't know you have done to him what any good friend would do to each other. He may be angry at the instant but afterwards when he is settled and recall the moment he is going to thank you for  lifting him out of the gambling shop when he didn't had the thought of doing it himself because of how he was too carried away by the winnings which could have later turned to losses if he had continued a little longer.

Not every one that loses in his first time of gambling stops to gamble, some people that's the beginning of a long gambling history while for another that's an end.

Yep, I think OP's friend will appreciate it in the future.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You've done really well, like the saying goes, the stubborn fly followed the corpse into the ground. You just lifted that your stubborn fly friend out of great trouble since it's obvious he's lost control in his gambling activity.

He's also gambling with the wrong motive and has a greedy target, so it's obvious he would possibly lose his bets and start chasing his loses since he wants to cash out big and not just having some fun.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
Interrupting his session while he's up was the best decision you've made there, it might cause him to miss out on potential winnings, but you never know when his luck will end.

If he kept on betting, I think he'd win some more before going on a losing streak, gamblers always try to push their luck while it's hot.

The best-case scenario would be for him to stop once he loses, but he could also react differently and try to recover his recent losses.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
You didn't do anything wrong but your friend didn't understand that because you look like a responsible gambler and you were just looking out for your friend. But did you know that some people would never learn from the mistakes of others untill they have made theirs? When you tell them your own mistakes, they'll dismiss like it can never happen to them until it does.

Secondly, I wouldn't know of your friend would have continued gambling if he lost as we don't know about his gambling history. I would have been able to make my predictions if you had told us a little about his past betting habits.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Your friend won't know you have done to him what any good friend would do to each other. He may be angry at the instant but afterwards when he is settled and recall the moment he is going to thank you for  lifting him out of the gambling shop when he didn't had the thought of doing it himself because of how he was too carried away by the winnings which could have later turned to losses if he had continued a little longer.

Not every one that loses in his first time of gambling stops to gamble, some people that's the beginning of a long gambling history while for another that's an end.
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