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The gambler should understand the game properly,because the game should be end with the winning.This was the major reason for the gambler to play for the longer period of time.To restart the game,the gambler should need of more money.If they end the game with the winning, the gambler will have money for the next game.If they end the game with the loss,they won’t have any dollars for the future game.Also the mindset of the gambler will be change to the bad wibe.The gambler experience may help the gambler to make the sudden win with their experience,but the patience is the needed one in the game changing moment.

Gambling must be understood well before gambling. If one starts gambling without understanding gambling then he will never enjoy the joy of gambling. To enjoy the real joy of gambling we should understand gambling and then gamble.  .I've seen people who start gambling in new situations never do well because they don't understand the game of gambling which leads them to lose.
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Imagine assuming u e OP did not follow his friend to the betshop, this is how he would continue gambling because he is winning and before you know it he will start losing and empty his bankroll before he will realized that he should have quitted the game earlier when he as winning.

OP, your friend will not appreciate what you did for him until another day that he will be alone gambling and the same thing will happen to him but you will not be there to save him, that is when he will be grateful to you on preventing him from gambling too much.

The gambler should understand the game properly,because the game should be end with the winning.This was the major reason for the gambler to play for the longer period of time.To restart the game,the gambler should need of more money.If they end the game with the winning, the gambler will have money for the next game.If they end the game with the loss,they won’t have any dollars for the future game.Also the mindset of the gambler will be change to the bad wibe.The gambler experience may help the gambler to make the sudden win with their experience,but the patience is the needed one in the game changing moment.
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On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
There's one answer that I know with this scenario. IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS
There's a chance that what you did was right, but there's also a chance that what you did was wrong. What if your friend is right that he could win more since he got the momentum already and winning that much money? What if you are right that your friend might lose his money after winning that much.

I mean this kind of scenario can go both ways because nobody knows what can happen into the future. It's good that you secured his winnings by lifting him outside of that betting shop, and because of that, I can say that you're a good friend. On the other hand, what you did could spark some problems along the way, and there's a chance that he might not go with you when he's gambling because when he's winning, you could spoil all of his possible winnings by putting him outside. The answer to all of your question is "Nobody knows exactly what can happen" because like I said, it can go both ways.

Did you do something wrong? I don't think so because you're just protecting your friend for possible losing all of his money, and if I'm on your shoes, I might do the same thing as well.
You should know how much we have talked about gambling and winning /losing especially when someone wins huge amount the next is to exit the casino site and i can't be a dum who can't apply this rules and teaching over here, this shows that we aren't doing we are teaching here and expressing here because if i leave him to gambling and he finally lose money i might still be blamed for not resisting him to continue gambling and to avoid such scenario it would better i putted on such acts to stop him on time although i know that there could be possibilities of him winning much but then, in gambling the first and second winning are always trap to get entrapped into the gambling site to lose one bankroll.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Actually this depends on the perspective but if you look at the conditions of the victory obtained I think you are not wrong for reminding and stopping your friend when he is in a condition that can be said to be quite ambitious because of the victory obtained. You know that in the end the 3 wins obtained could be lost if you continue to force to bet so the right decision is actually to bring and stop your friend when he is in such a victory.
But maybe for this decision it could disturb your colleague's emotions and it is very natural because seeing from what happened, he will definitely not accept when he is winning but is prohibited from continuing to gamble because he has gained ambition for gambling and thinks he will win again.

That is a behavior that I think is responsible friend and it is not a mistake even though surely your friend will be a little upset because he is under the influence of gambling but that is normal because I would also be a little upset if I won but stopped (when gambling using emotions because of lulling victory) but if you think further then of course your decision is the right thing.
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On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
There's one answer that I know with this scenario. IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS
There's a chance that what you did was right, but there's also a chance that what you did was wrong. What if your friend is right that he could win more since he got the momentum already and winning that much money? What if you are right that your friend might lose his money after winning that much.

I mean this kind of scenario can go both ways because nobody knows what can happen into the future. It's good that you secured his winnings by lifting him outside of that betting shop, and because of that, I can say that you're a good friend. On the other hand, what you did could spark some problems along the way, and there's a chance that he might not go with you when he's gambling because when he's winning, you could spoil all of his possible winnings by putting him outside. The answer to all of your question is "Nobody knows exactly what can happen" because like I said, it can go both ways.

Did you do something wrong? I don't think so because you're just protecting your friend for possible losing all of his money, and if I'm on your shoes, I might do the same thing as well.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
That's the best thing you can do, besides that he already win. Imagine lossing those winnings plus your friend's capital will only give your friend more reason to gamble again and again to chase the loss. If your friend still complains for what you did until today or until you get together again, then there's really a problem to him. Without self-control people always ends up become broke.

He should be thankful to you as you got out from the gambling shop before he lost it all. We know that in the long run, the likelihood of losing is always greater than being a winner. So at that moment, he was in the positive side when you asked him to leave the shop. No one could tell if he will win more if he continued his games. For sure, if he lost all the money that he won, the tendency of playing more will always be there because he would want to chase his losses. Unless, he has no more money to fund his games. All in all, it was better for you to asked him leave the gambling premises while you were on the winning side. Most gamblers will go home broke because they usually continue their games up until they lost it all.
Imagine assuming u e OP did not follow his friend to the betshop, this is how he would continue gambling because he is winning and before you know it he will start losing and empty his bankroll before he will realized that he should have quitted the game earlier when he as winning.

OP, your friend will not appreciate what you did for him until another day that he will be alone gambling and the same thing will happen to him but you will not be there to save him, that is when he will be grateful to you on preventing him from gambling too much.
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You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.
it's one thing to listen, but it's another different thing to put it into practice.... When he was overwhelmed by the fun and urge to keep wagering, that's it.... That's the feeling that ushers in a pile of tickets into your hands, removing almost everything in your pockets.

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
You haven't done anything wrong fo sure, just that sometimes, if they gotta allow their greed to override them, I'd allow him to his fate if he insisted.
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Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
There's a high chance that he would have requested for more funds even when he had nothing left in his wallets...The initial winning will only introduce a certain pattern to you that you'll definitely wanna keep trying.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
That's the best thing you can do, besides that he already win. Imagine lossing those winnings plus your friend's capital will only give your friend more reason to gamble again and again to chase the loss. If your friend still complains for what you did until today or until you get together again, then there's really a problem to him. Without self-control people always ends up become broke.

He should be thankful to you as you got out from the gambling shop before he lost it all. We know that in the long run, the likelihood of losing is always greater than being a winner. So at that moment, he was in the positive side when you asked him to leave the shop. No one could tell if he will win more if he continued his games. For sure, if he lost all the money that he won, the tendency of playing more will always be there because he would want to chase his losses. Unless, he has no more money to fund his games. All in all, it was better for you to asked him leave the gambling premises while you were on the winning side. Most gamblers will go home broke because they usually continue their games up until they lost it all.
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing...
I feel nostalgic at the mention of draft (draughts/checkers) as it used to be my favourite game growing up. It's still till date, though I haven't played it for a few years now. For me, I see it as a replica of Chess. Both of them demand critical thinking playing them.

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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Don't guilt trip on that. You didn't do any wrong by dragging him out of that scene. Your action was what any reasonable friend should do. By the way, if your friend was so sure of his winnings as he alleged, why didn't he increase his stakes in the few games he played on that day? That's what you should be asking him. Winning first two or three rounds wasn't a guarantee that he would win the next one if that was his consolation. But then, that has often been the mindset of gamblers.
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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.

You did the right thing. He is becoming too greedy, and becoming too greedy will lead you to lose a lot. He will thank you later.

The most challenging thing in gambling is to stop when you are winning. We are tempted to push our luck when luck is something that happens, not something we have.

Temptation is high, but our discipline should be even higher.
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Whenever people gambles and they win they will always think that day is there best day to continue gambling without knowing that it is just a kind of trap lure the gambler dip into commission to gamble before he would start losing all that he has won previously, but a reasonable gambler is not meant to get carried with the constant winning instead after winning twice it's left for him to quit for that day and distance the gambling site before regrets follows.
Yeah, that will be what they think so that will be the reason for them to continue gambling and hopes that they can win more money. They don't see something wrong will happen if they decide to continue gambling because their minds has been close by the wanting of make more money from gambling. That will gives them risks because they can lose their money including their win money if they decide to continue gambling after they win. The worst is they can becomes addicted to gambling when they feels difficult to stops from gambling. If they already win, they must realizes that is the time for them to stop gambling and not decide to chase more winning as that will not easy to win more money. If they can stop gambling, they will have a chance to withdraw the money or save the money in their account so they don't have to deposit the other money to playing gambling.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?
That's the best thing you can do, besides that he already win. Imagine lossing those winnings plus your friend's capital will only give your friend more reason to gamble again and again to chase the loss. If your friend still complains for what you did until today or until you get together again, then there's really a problem to him. Without self-control people always ends up become broke.
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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
Matter of perspective here. To the friend that got pulled out when he was on a roll, you're the asshole, he's feeling it, he's winning a lot of games, and then you pulled him out, that's a massive dick move if I do see one. But then again, I can see why you had to pull him out of his seat. The idea to go there was for a different purpose, to be side-tracked is a massive inconvenience. If I were you, and if he's really a genuinely good person, I'd talk to him about this and make him understand why you did such things, if he still sees malice behind your actions, then the friendship isn't probably worth it. Worse comes to worst, you'll be keeping a chronic impulsive gambler on your squad which wouldn't make for a solid roster. You gotta look out for yourself too after all.
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Wow your friend truly has zero self control.

I'd say good on you for wanting to get so deep in helping him, but most likely even if he was a child and was acting like that, his father would rather let him cry and make a fool of himself rather than physically pick him up. To his eyes you violated his adulthood and freedom of choice but really his train of thought is very irrational right after this point. You can't expect to keep winning. If you win two times in a row already it's time to go home and enjoy the pot of money you won, however small. Since your friend couldn't understand that you acted like a guardian angel.

If he keeps being angry at you it's on him. This is such a story though, if he's a good friend he should appreciate it down the line.
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You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.

That is one thing about betting, the gambler will be winning and it will be very interesting for him to continue playing.  It if he continued to play, likely he would have lost some money or lost all if he had the time to bet more.


You have made reasonable points, winning comes with so much excitement such that when one can not control it, it becomes problematic and most times we will definitely end up losing all that have won, understanding entering and exiting from gambling at every given time is very important as to enable us not to overly allocate our time, energy and resources, what we have been discussing here is very important and is very beneficial to majority of us, especially when we do talk about gambling with only the amount we can afford to lose which is also very important, as not to become addicted.
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I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.
You are right because when we lose, there will be a wanting to continue playing gambling and recover our losses. You do the right thing to stopped him from continuing gambling so he can see that you as his friend not letting him losses more. Gambling can tempt people easily so that is why we must know when we stop gambling and related to your friend, he must realizes that you reminds him from the other losses that he can get if he decide to continue gambling. He must realizes that gambling can tempting him and difficult to stops gambling. He still have the other days to playing gambling and not just that day so he can prevent the next losses.
Whenever people gambles and they win they will always think that day is there best day to continue gambling without knowing that it is just a kind of trap lure the gambler dip into commission to gamble before he would start losing all that he has won previously, but a reasonable gambler is not meant to get carried with the constant winning instead after winning twice it's left for him to quit for that day and distance the gambling site before regrets follows.
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He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.
Nope, never.

Regardless he end up become a millionaire, homeless or still same, he will think at that time he would make a lot of money and he always think you as someone who stop him to change his life.

Never try to control or influence something that related to money, it will end your relationship.
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I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.
You are right because when we lose, there will be a wanting to continue playing gambling and recover our losses. You do the right thing to stopped him from continuing gambling so he can see that you as his friend not letting him losses more. Gambling can tempt people easily so that is why we must know when we stop gambling and related to your friend, he must realizes that you reminds him from the other losses that he can get if he decide to continue gambling. He must realizes that gambling can tempting him and difficult to stops gambling. He still have the other days to playing gambling and not just that day so he can prevent the next losses.
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You are not wrong in this case because have helped you friend to stay on the safe track when gambling, if you do not decide to ask him out and stop the prolonged betting, something bad could happen.
Maybe he thinks to be able to make more wins and collect some money if he still has luck, but if not, it can also result in big loss and spend everything he has earned.
Moreover, if something bad really happens and loses all the money, it can trigger an emotional increase that can lead him to go further by using other additional money to bet again, in conditions like this it will be difficult for him to stop.
In this context, I quite salute you who still care about other people or it is you own friend.
That's great that before he did the lifting thing, he still asked for a permission to his friend. It is only inappropriate if his friend did not agree with it and we still do the thing that we are planning to do even if we can say that it was beneficial for the bettor because each of us must still have their own rights and they can do whatever they wanted to do even if it was wrong in the eyes of the others.

We can only hope that they can still realized it at the end and won't lead to a more fatal situations like addictions, doing a crime, and loss of life. Apart from that, there are still gamblers who have a control of their selves but I think we can also know this if we are observing them for a very long time already.

It's just that they can sometimes do crazy things either intentional or not and we see this coincidentally resulting us to rattle and mind their own business. Gambling is mostly a game of luck and luck is a complicated thing but there is still a way to test if our luck is there and if it is still there. Let us only remember that gambling is a highly addicting activity, so we must be careful because we can unintentionally continue even though we already know that our luck is not there or not there anymore.
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Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.
You did good to stop your friend when you did. There is no telling what would have happened if he continued gambling that day. From what I have read in the OP, I believe he would have lost his money chasing losses. In the OP, you told us that your friend won you and others in a game of checkers. Those victories have boosted his confidence in himself and he will be feeling like it’s his lucky day (superstition is common trait among many gamblers) and these two factors can push him into making more bets even when he is losing.
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