Topic: Health and Religion - page 14. (Read 210900 times)

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. 30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

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I just realized that I might be talking to a real schizophrenic.  So please excuse me, I have to leave this ward.

That doesn't answer the question. Why is he making another universe, did he fuck this one up and has to make another one? Again, why wouldnt he just make that one knowing beforehand how this one will turn out??? Makes no sense.

Also how can god not know something for a fact, isnt he god lol?

Because NU is an extension, sort of, of his universe. It's an extension regarding the reward for the choice made. The reward is either locked-in joy and spiritual growth, or locked-in destruction  - though it takes all eternity for either to be completed.

There is this tiny free will that people have in this universe. Even God doesn't quite know for an absolute fact what the free will of us gods will be, although He can guess it quite accurately in most cases. In the resurrection, the results will be handed out, according to whatever each person chose in this universe and life.

In other words, the NU and Hell will BE the "from the beginning" you are talking about... because none of this universe will ever be remembered or come to mind once the NU is in use.

You made your choice. But God is happy to allow you to have the understanding of what is going on, both so that you will see that it is your choice that sent you there, and so that you can calculate it while you are here.

Earth, I think, will not be found by anyone to be in the end a very distinct place.  I think earth, if chosen instead of Heaven, will turn out to have been, all along, only a region in Hell:  and earth, if put second to Heaven, to have been from the beginning a part of Heaven itself. - C.S. Lewis

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In other words, the NU and Hell will BE the "from the beginning" you are talking about... because none of this universe will ever be remembered or come to mind once the NU is in use.
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''In the new universe, there will only be good. So, people will only have free will to do good and better.'' ''in this universe, no matter the good or bad you choose to do, you can only do what the physics of the universe allows. In the new universe, not even bad thinking will be a choice allowed by NU physics.''

So why not do that from the beginning, have you ever thought about that? LOL

You will never get a chance to find out how God will do this, because of where you have chosen to go. But I will give you a little hint.

In the new universe, there will only be good. So, people will only have free will to do good and better.

What I mean is, in this universe, no matter the good or bad you choose to do, you can only do what the physics of the universe allows. In the new universe, not even bad thinking will be a choice allowed by NU physics.



EDIT: What makes you think that children will be born in the new universe?

EDIT 2: This post nullifies your post at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51994000.

How will god prevent evil in the new universe though, people will still have free choice, no? Therefore they can still commit crimes there, again, 0 logic. What about children born there once we go there? How will he make sure they are born not evil? Garbage argument.

This bit about the new universe is kind of new information. LOL.

Are you on God's mailing list?  You seem to know a lot about what your God wants and what he did, is doing and will do in the future.

Hmm, are you sure, maybe you are God?

You would need to make sure that consciousness that made the transition from this world to the next were entirely grounded in the Law. Specifically such consciousness would need to be both superrational and adopt an unbounded and inclusive morality. As long as these two criteria were met there would be no crimes in the next world.

I discussed this immediately upthead in my discussion of Multiverse Wide Cooperation.

In Biblical terms you would need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

How will god prevent evil in the new universe though, people will still have free choice, no? Therefore they can still commit crimes there, again, 0 logic. What about children born there once we go there? How will he make sure they are born not evil? Garbage argument.

How in the world dumb are you? God made it this way so that people could prove to themselves what their free will would do. How did they prove it to themselves? By the way they used it.

Oh sure. God could have just let them be what they wanted to be. And then they would wake up in H or H and wonder why they were there. But this way they don't have any excuse for the place they go. They can see how they chose it. But once there, there won't be any looking back, because of the pain, or because of the joy.

I mean, if you want freedom to choose the good or the bad, make your choice. And if you don't want the bad, turn the other way and choose the good.

The new universe, or the decaying old (Hell)... is simply the reward for the choice made.

What? You don't want the freedom to choose? So that you don't choose the wrong thing? You of all people have the knowledge to choose the good rather than the bad. And you seem to only want the bad. So, what's the difference for you? You are going where you are going because you chose it.

What? You don't like the idea that some other people don't know how to make the right choice, or don't have an easy time of choosing? Well, make the right choice, and then get out there and help them make the right choice by becoming a preacher yourself. As it is, you are only trying to get them to make the wrong choice. What's the matter? Do you think their presence will matter at all to you once you are in Hell?

How in the world dumb are you? God made it this way so that people could prove to themselves what their free will would do. How did they prove it to themselves? By the way they used it.

Oh sure. God could have just let them be what they wanted to be. And then they would wake up in H or H and wonder why they were there. But this way they don't have any excuse for the place they go. They can see how they chose it. But once there, there won't be any looking back, because of the pain, or because of the joy.

I mean, if you want freedom to choose the good or the bad, make your choice. And if you don't want the bad, turn the other way and choose the good.

The new universe, or the decaying old (Hell)... is simply the reward for the choice made.

What? You don't want the freedom to choose? So that you don't choose the wrong thing? You of all people have the knowledge to choose the good rather than the bad. And you seem to only want the bad. So, what's the difference for you? You are going where you are going because you chose it.

What? You don't like the idea that some other people don't know how to make the right choice, or don't have an easy time of choosing? Well, make the right choice, and then get out there and help them make the right choice by becoming a preacher yourself. As it is, you are only trying to get them to make the wrong choice. What's the matter? Do you think their presence will matter at all to you once you are in Hell?

''God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter.'' Then why didn't he make this one like that to begin with LOL, how illogical can you guys be??

It works like this:

At the time God made everything, there was no evil. There was only good and better.

God works in everything, because none of it would work at all if God did not work it. Since there wasn't any evil originally, there was no reason for God to NOT move in full force with the thing He was doing... bringing to birth children.

Then evil entered through the children and the devil selecting evil rather than good. But God was already moving in the direction of maintaining all things. You don't simply tell God to put on the brakes when He does something with His strength. The thing He did with His strength was to maintain everything... some of it with free choice, some of it evil, and some good.

The thing that God is doing to get rid of evil is, God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter. This present universe will crash, and once it does, there will be no remembrance of either the good or evil here. So, God is destroying the evil in His own way, even though a few people must live in pain for a hundred years here. When it is done, there will be no remembrance that it even happened.

God will take the people who are on His side - in favor of Him - to the new universe. The others will be destroyed in Hell, because they are the evil that God is getting rid of. Of course, because of the kind of beings people are, it will take all eternity for them to be destroyed. But they asked for it.

Crap video. if god can prevent evil in heaven then why hasn't he done it already? Please, a 10 year old would understand how illogical it is.