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September 25, 2017, 10:32:55 PM
It is impossible to present a comprehensive list of the ways in which faith influences reactions to medical care, and there are so many variants that comments can only be vague generalizations. And yet, physicians should be aware of areas in which the religion of their patient may strongly influence their response to medical advice. Below are a very few examples of areas you should be aware of in your practice.
Of course, all religions hold the sanctity of life as a central tenet, but they vary in how this is interpreted when difficult issues (abortion, end-of-life care, transplant surgery, etc.) arise.
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September 25, 2017, 10:04:24 PM

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.
How do you know? You cannot deny the experience of others.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/847806/life-after-death-what-happens-when-you-die-DMT-reddit-NDE/amp
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/777449/LIFE-AFTER-DEATH-brain-activity-University-of-Western-Ontario/amp

I surely can, ''Bovinerifle said the hallucinogenic drug DMT gave him the same experience as his NDE. '' He himself says that hallucinogenic drugs had the same effect as his ''near death experience, why? Well because he was hallucinating lol. Yes brain activity may continue for a few more minutes than we previously thought but that means nothing, it will still stop and when it stops, that's it, you are dead forever.
Where is your evidence?! I already posted mine and it shows that NDE is different from dreams, and it is hard to explain NDE as a mere byproduct of human evolution. Your claim that it is all so simple is baseless.
. http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html
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September 25, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
I'm a christian and I don't hate atheists. I can't actually remember when was the last time I felt hate, probably back when I was still an atheist and slave to my emotions like Moloch is today

Did you seriously just say you don't hate Atheists, then in the next sentence slander me?

The hypocrisy is getting thick, and we're still on the first page... slow down hoss
I'm a Christian too but for me don't hate someone or anything because it's a sin ,I don't hate atheists .
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September 25, 2017, 04:11:16 PM

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.
How do you know? You cannot deny the experience of others.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/847806/life-after-death-what-happens-when-you-die-DMT-reddit-NDE/amp
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/777449/LIFE-AFTER-DEATH-brain-activity-University-of-Western-Ontario/amp

I surely can, ''Bovinerifle said the hallucinogenic drug DMT gave him the same experience as his NDE. '' He himself says that hallucinogenic drugs had the same effect as his ''near death experience, why? Well because he was hallucinating lol. Yes brain activity may continue for a few more minutes than we previously thought but that means nothing, it will still stop and when it stops, that's it, you are dead forever.
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September 25, 2017, 03:56:17 PM

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.
How do you know? You cannot deny the experience of others.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/847806/life-after-death-what-happens-when-you-die-DMT-reddit-NDE/amp
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/777449/LIFE-AFTER-DEATH-brain-activity-University-of-Western-Ontario/amp
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September 25, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
It's not the religion per se, it's the structure of the entire religious organization which prevents some brains to develop
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September 25, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
Your assumption that atheism and socialism are somehow downsides of high IQ is deeply flawed. Also, isn't it quite telling that the smarter a person is, the less likely they are to believe fairytales? I never understand how people can't just see that maybe they should revisit their beliefs rather than constantly saying that things like science are being manipulated to disprove their beliefs. The obvious answer is that bronze age mythology is just as wrong as Norse mythology or Greek. There is no Odin, there is no Zeus, there is no Yahweh. Ask yourself why 2 of those statements don't bother you, but the third one does. Anything that you use to disprove the first two will disprove your own god too.
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September 25, 2017, 12:05:31 PM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool

If the bible is the word of god then god is an idiot. Allowing slavery, killing people, stupid laws, there is nothing good about that god. He even killed everyone with the flood which btw makes no sense when he could have just wiped everyone and start over again but instead he decided to complicate it by creating a world wide flood that would kill everyone but a few people and then rebuild everything again.

LOL!

There is this Great Being who is so great that He made the universe. And you won't take the time to read the Bible to find out why He does what He does. Rather, you think yourself so smart that you just know that God is an idiot.

Keep on pushing yourself into tininess. Soon you will turn yourself into empty space in the box.

LOL.

Cool

He is an idiot, it's a fact. Humans are flawed and his laws are flawed and stupid.

A little bit farther, now. Soon you will be in such a deep hole you will never get out.

 Grin

EDIT: Of course, you might find gold down in your hole.  Huh

EDIT2: Of course, you'll never be able to get it out.  Cheesy

Hey you are free to believe whatever you want but you can't tell me the bible is a good book. There are whole chapters dedicated to instruct people on how to enslave other people and how you can beat your slaves because they are your property or how being homosexual is a sin.
legendary
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September 25, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool

If the bible is the word of god then god is an idiot. Allowing slavery, killing people, stupid laws, there is nothing good about that god. He even killed everyone with the flood which btw makes no sense when he could have just wiped everyone and start over again but instead he decided to complicate it by creating a world wide flood that would kill everyone but a few people and then rebuild everything again.

LOL!

There is this Great Being who is so great that He made the universe. And you won't take the time to read the Bible to find out why He does what He does. Rather, you think yourself so smart that you just know that God is an idiot.

Keep on pushing yourself into tininess. Soon you will turn yourself into empty space in the box.

LOL.

Cool

He is an idiot, it's a fact. Humans are flawed and his laws are flawed and stupid.

A little bit farther, now. Soon you will be in such a deep hole you will never get out.

 Grin

EDIT: Of course, you might find gold down in your hole.  Huh

EDIT2: Of course, you'll never be able to get it out.  Cheesy
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September 25, 2017, 10:09:57 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool

If the bible is the word of god then god is an idiot. Allowing slavery, killing people, stupid laws, there is nothing good about that god. He even killed everyone with the flood which btw makes no sense when he could have just wiped everyone and start over again but instead he decided to complicate it by creating a world wide flood that would kill everyone but a few people and then rebuild everything again.

LOL!

There is this Great Being who is so great that He made the universe. And you won't take the time to read the Bible to find out why He does what He does. Rather, you think yourself so smart that you just know that God is an idiot.

Keep on pushing yourself into tininess. Soon you will turn yourself into empty space in the box.

LOL.

Cool

He is an idiot, it's a fact. Humans are flawed and his laws are flawed and stupid.
legendary
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September 25, 2017, 09:50:58 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool

If the bible is the word of god then god is an idiot. Allowing slavery, killing people, stupid laws, there is nothing good about that god. He even killed everyone with the flood which btw makes no sense when he could have just wiped everyone and start over again but instead he decided to complicate it by creating a world wide flood that would kill everyone but a few people and then rebuild everything again.

LOL!

There is this Great Being who is so great that He made the universe. And you won't take the time to read the Bible to find out why He does what He does. Rather, you think yourself so smart that you just know that God is an idiot.

Keep on pushing yourself into tininess. Soon you will turn yourself into empty space in the box.

LOL.

Cool
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September 25, 2017, 08:33:14 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool

If the bible is the word of god then god is an idiot. Allowing slavery, killing people, stupid laws, there is nothing good about that god. He even killed everyone with the flood which btw makes no sense when he could have just wiped everyone and start over again but instead he decided to complicate it by creating a world wide flood that would kill everyone but a few people and then rebuild everything again.
legendary
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September 25, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.

In addition to the proof that God exists that I have been showing you at the "Scientific proof that God exists?" thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322, there is scientific proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

The Bible proof is a bit more complicated to explain, and it is impossible to explain to a person who doesn't understand that God exists.

The strongest proof for God is not a scientific proof. It is a relation proof. When a person accepts the Spirit of God into his/her life, the person has personal relationship with God, and personal proof.

Those who don't accept the Holy Spirit don't have that proof. That's why they think that such proof is make-believe.

Cool
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September 25, 2017, 04:35:35 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool

We are all going to die and end up in the same place no matter how much you want to believe we are special, I know it's hard to admit but it's the reality, there is nothing beyond death.
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September 24, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.
As a christian i will say that nothing prohibits us from enjoying life as we see fit, The Bible says itself that we are free to do anything that we like but it also states that not everything that we do is beneficial for us. You can drink and smoke but its not going to be good for your health in the long term.
legendary
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September 24, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.

The big difference is that if the person is a Christian, his happiness goes on into eternity, while the atheist's happiness ends at death if not sooner.

Cool
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September 24, 2017, 08:23:36 AM
What makes people cheerful? God makes them cheerful at the cheerful times. When they doubt God, then they become cheerless. If they trust God, they can be cheerful in many troubles. God makes them cheerful.

Cool

People are cheerful comfortable conditions of life and lack of health problems, and not faith in God. Many atheists are much happier than religious people. It seems to me that sometimes religious people are unable to enjoy life because of the stupid prohibitions of their religion.
legendary
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September 23, 2017, 02:59:12 PM
It's probably true that religion makes people happy because it gives you an alternative for death however, it's an illusion, you will eventually die and there will be no heaven, no after life, no purpose, no meaning just emptiness, that's life, nothing special, we really are just something that happened and there is no purpose. Knowing this reality is not going to do any good for anyone's happiness but regardless of feelings is still the truth.

Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.

What you have embraced here XinXan is the philosophy of nihilism. It is one of the most dangerous and toxic of the philosophical dead ends precisely because it it's so unhealthy and so difficult to escape once accepted.

I was never a nihilist so I am not the best person to help those with this particular condition. Bruce Charlton was a former nihilist so I would recommend reading his comments on nihilism I posted immediately above.

Nihilism locks you into noncooperation and is ultimately a barrier to freedom. I illustrated how this occurs in my posts on the prisoners dilemma immediately above. For the nihilist betrayal is the only logical action in prisoners dilemma. The Nash equilibrium becomes destiny.

Humans are by and large emotional and rational creatures. To truly achieve our potential, however, we need to elevate our nature and become superrational. Humanity must solve the prisoners dilemma and the ethical flaw it highlights.

There are two ways to limit the fallout from a prisoners dilemma type problem. The first and best way is to make the actors superrational instead of rational. This is very hard as it requires one to fundamentally elevate the nature of the participants.

Thus most of the the time we pursue simpler stopgap solutions to lock rational players into a metagame which alters short term decision making. In the case of the prisoners dilemma you introduce the crime syndicate on the outside that punishes those who talk.

The stopgap measures work for a time (sometimes a long time) but are vulnerable to being undermined as the fundamental problem (flawed participants) remains. In the case of the prisoners dilemma the crime syndicates may lose power or a witness protection program may be offered.

Since this is a bitcoin forum it should be noted that decentralized ledgers are this second stopgap type of solution. Self interest and greed are leveraged into support for an algorithm that introduces decentralized computational enforced transparency and verification. This limits the ability defect via abuse of seigniorage or debasement or forgery.

Stopgap measures can work but are vulnerable. In the case of a decentralized ledger the weakness is at the developer level where attempts can be made to seize control of the protocol via controlling future changes and updates. This is exactly where the attacks on bitcoin will and are occurring.

The world is not going to become superrational in the timeframe needed to deal with our imploding financial system. Thus stopgap measures are necessary. Fortunately it looks like decentralized ledgers are arriving just in time to provide the needed emergency relief.

I believe transparency is the fundamental advance of our time as I noted in the table below.

Cycles of Contention
Cycle #1  Cycle #2  Cycle #3  Cycle #4  Cycle #5  Cycle #6  
Mechanism of Control    Knowledge of Evil  Warlordism    Holy War  Usury  Universal Surveillance    Hedonism  
RulersThe Strong  Despots  God Kings/Monarchs    Capitalists    Oligarchs (NWO)  Decentralized Government    
Life of the Ruled"Nasty, Brutish, Short"    Slaves  Surfs  Debtors  Basic Income Recipients    Knowledge Workers  
Facilitated AdvanceKnowledge of Good    Commerce  Rule of Law  Growth  Transparency  Ascesis  

Ultimately the rational individuals set themselves on a path towards destruction just as rational nations do who abandon superrationality and descend into stealing and power vacuums. The most successful may succeed for a generation or two if they are top dog but they have locked themselves into a prisoners prisoners dilemma which can lead only to their distruction at the hands of someone more powerful or their taking the role of local top dog of a sinking ship eventually finding themselves utterly uncompetitive in an age that rewards cooperation.

All knowledge traces back ultimately to certain apriori truths. The knowledge that life has meaning and purpose follows from the apriori truth of God.

If you deny the infinite you must choose different almost always nihilistic assumptions. These will obviously lead you to different and usually toxic conclusions.

Religion is a the only functional superrationality protocol. It maximizes superrationality and thus positive societal outcomes. It is the only force that enables suspension of defect-defect equilibrium like the prisoners dilemma or the power vacuum. When a superrationality protocol is abandoned (widespread rejection of religion) the gradual vice of ever increasing defection sets in and the countdown towards destruction of the society commences.

Quote from:  Henning Webb Prentis, Jr
Paradoxically enough, the release of initiative and enterprise made possible by popular self-government ultimately generates disintegrating forces from within. Again and again after freedom has brought opportunity and some degree of plenty, the competent become selfish, luxury-loving and complacent, the incompetent and the unfortunate grow envious and covetous, and all three groups turn aside from the hard road of freedom to worship the Golden Calf of economic security.

The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more."

It is moral degradation that leads to bondage for it is moral strengthening that allows free and strong societies to be built in the first place.

This is why Ethical Monotheism is so important and the reason why so much that is good in the world came from the west.

Without it we are reduced to merely rational actors. We become desperate prisoners who cannot escape the Nash equilibrium of defection and betrayal.
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September 23, 2017, 01:50:32 PM
It's probably true that religion makes people happy because it gives you an alternative for death however, it's an illusion, you will eventually die and there will be no heaven, no after life, no purpose, no meaning just emptiness, that's life, nothing special, we really are just something that happened and there is no purpose. Knowing this reality is not going to do any good for anyone's happiness but regardless of feelings is still the truth.
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September 22, 2017, 11:35:01 PM
Any religion is injurious to health!
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