Religion has confused most people, in the case of God existence even the philosophers that brought about science where believers of God existence but what there where only against was the theocratic leadership which also alined with BaDecker statement that the scientist are only there to make a living out of testing and testing theories to prove somethings.
This philosophers wanted the leadership from the priest who where there greatest leaders back then but along the line the concept was twisted to prove the believe of the religionist wrong. although it succeeded and that lead to the science of now.
Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? (Read 845633 times)
it was actually suggested the character of moses was the story of exodus wrote by the writer who put himmself into his own story to give himself some provenance..
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.
then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it
my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion
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science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions
books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.
then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it
my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion
..
science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions
books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend
Carbon dating is flawed and can't be trusted.
The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Bible is reasonably accurate for the last more than 2000 years.
And the big one, again. There is more to the Bible and Moses writings than some simple book that was simply copied. More than 2 billion people believe it. Most of the other people haven't been introduced to the Bible, or they would believe it, too.
Seems that it's the stupid people who look at evolution theory, but can't seem to see that it is flawed. I guess they simply need a different religion than the Bible.
Good thing that we have engineers who can correct what the scientists mess up.
it was actually suggested the character of moses was the story of exodus wrote by the writer who put himmself into his own story to give himself some provenance..
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.
then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it
my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion
..
science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions
books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.
then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it
my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion
..
science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions
books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend
The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
its symbolic, to teach the less educated
the adams apple in throat(related to the thyroid) is what makes the difference between a neanderthal/cretin vs a civilised man
the greeks knew this in the BC days. it however got turned into a campfire story of serpents and fruits. to generate a new religion amungst the people that couldnt read and write.. yep preachers used to do those things back then.
writing the bible came later
its like trying to teach a toddler about how babies are made..
they get told that "daddy put a baby in mommys tummy" the kid then tels everyone that "daddy fed mommy and she ate a baby"
see how easily things get twisted into a fiction story,
You are missing the important thing. As usual, you focus on the trivial.
When did Moses, the writer (transcriber of the firs two chapters) of Genesis live? History people suggest the 14th to the 13th century BC. How many years ago is that? Somewhere in the range of almost 3,500 years ago.
Why is this important? Because, after all that time, there are possibly over 2 billion people, currently, who believe that Moses existed... including Muslims. That, alone is a miracle... after 3,500 years.
Forget Aristotle, and Plato, and Socrates, and the rest of the ancient hero's of science. They don't hold a candle to Moses... not in historical significance, or in truth of writing, or in the power of God that lives with him right now in the Kingdom of Heaven, where he still lives in power.
The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
its symbolic, to teach the less educated
the adams apple in throat(related to the thyroid) is what makes the difference between a neanderthal/cretin vs a civilised man
the greeks knew this in the BC days. it however got turned into a campfire story of serpents and fruits. to generate a new religion amungst the people that couldnt read and write.. yep preachers used to do those things back then.
writing the bible came later
its like trying to teach a toddler about how babies are made..
they get told that "daddy put a baby in mommys tummy" the kid then tels everyone that "daddy fed mommy and she ate a baby"
see how easily things get twisted into a fiction story,
Why not? Without god never possible to run the earth and god is allah and first messenger / prophet is Adam and last and greatest messenger / prophet is Muhammad it’s real and 100% right proof.
The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
Then in Genesis 6, the angels (some of them) came down and married women. So, here is what happened.
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a tree that Satan worked on genetically. Satan's genetics changed Adam and Eve when they ate the fruit. Before that time, the reproduction system of A&E was different than ours. But after the change, their reproduction system was compatible with that of the angels who came down and married women.
Read Genesis, the first few chapters, and see that you don't have to read all that creepy science fiction nonsense that you are always talking about, to understand what was going on in the early times of the world. BTW, the world as we know it is only about 7,500 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.
Then in Genesis 6, the angels (some of them) came down and married women. So, here is what happened.
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a tree that Satan worked on genetically. Satan's genetics changed Adam and Eve when they ate the fruit. Before that time, the reproduction system of A&E was different than ours. But after the change, their reproduction system was compatible with that of the angels who came down and married women.
Read Genesis, the first few chapters, and see that you don't have to read all that creepy science fiction nonsense that you are always talking about, to understand what was going on in the early times of the world. BTW, the world as we know it is only about 7,500 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
A post I took my time over:
How I 'use' Magic Squares:
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When counting, I start at 1. Then 2. Then 3. No Magic Square can be created using either 0, 1, or 2, so in this txt, 0, 1, or 2 can be dropped, but only in reference to magic squares. This paragraph is to help understand that 0 can be 3, 1 can be 4, and 2 can be 5. If this seems stupid, try this: 3 x 4 x 5 = 60 seconds!
For example, I take the largest circle, and call it 'The Constellations' which = 2592 years, and devide it with 2869, seen in the last line of the magic square of the moon. 2592/2869 = 0.90345068, and if I write this equation out using magic squares in relation to their respective planets, the result is thus: Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Mercury. Note last two digits = Year of the +Earth Monkey. Notice Venus is 'missing'?
Now take the Pyramid of Gezeh. Its total base length is 3024 (units). Do same as above to find Saturn and Jupiter. Then do the same with the pyramids height, 480.05 (units) to find Jupiter, Mercury, and Mars.
Translate these planets to their respective magic squares, Using the following:
3 is Saturn: 3 x 15 = 45 (9)
4 is Jupiter: 4 x 34 = 136 (16)
5 is Mars: 5 x 65 = 325 (25)
6 is Sun: 6 x 111 = 666 (36)
7 is Venus: 7 x 175 = 1225 (49)
8 is Mercury: 8 x 260 = 2080 (64)
9 is Moon: 9 x 369 = 3321 (81)
So I take a single side of the pyramid of Gezeh (Gezeh = Egyptian spelling of Jesus) and at first I see a length of 756 feet, and say wow, that's Venus (175), Mars (65), and the Sun (111), in the measurements order. 175 + 65 + 111 = 2216. So I then check the height of pyramid, 480 give or take half a foot, say Jupiter (136) + Mercury (2080) and find again, 2216. Does Revelation 22:16 Ring a bell? Notice we can only 'use' the magic square of the Sun out of 2216, 6, it's number being either 111 or 666? The numbers in brackets in the chart above, are exactly how many numbers create this magic square, 36 representing a circle of 360, but of course, in hebrew we drop the zero, leaving 36, being Saturn and the Sun, Revealing Horus, shining on Saturn, the 'Bull in Amentet', or the 'Bull of Bakha' and how Thoth is also Chronos, because Ra is the sun-LIGHT on the moon, its reflection on Saturn IS Chronos, not the planet, so Isis could not kill Ra ever, or she would be in the dark...
Take the number 0.90345068 above, relate planets to the smaller digits being 369 + 260 + 111 + 65 + 34 + 15 = 854 = Mercury, Mars, Jupiter.
Using same number above: 45 + 136 + 325 + 666 + 2080 + 3321 = 6573 = Sun, Mars, Mercury, Saturn.
Notice anything missing in the last paragraph? Venus. Lacking a goddess's voice?
In Revelation, the son of God promises to give the morning star to him that overcomes.
“As I also have received of my father; I will give him the morning star”. (Rev. II. 28).
The morning star was equally identified with Horus:
“I know the powers of the east: Horus of the mount of glory, the calf in presence of the god, and the star of dawn”.
The powers represented are Atum-Ra, the father, with Horus (or Jesus) the son, as a calf, the later lamb. This is Horus of the morning star. The powers are Atum, the father, Horus (as Sebek), the son, and Hathor as the bride. The morning star was given by Horus to his followers who were reborn in Sothis, which of course is Sirius, located in the constelation Canis Major, the dog star, proving the Sphinx should be a dog, with the pointed nose of the baboon monkey. Was it Heroditus, who once described the Sphinx as having the teeth of a 'sabre tooth tiger'?
Another similar txt:
The rebirth of Pepi was in or as the morning star: “his guide the morning star leads him to paradise, where he seats himself upon his throne”. (Arthurs Seat?) <- now proven.
When Pepi goes forth into heaven he is led by Septet, the female Sothis, and his guide is the morning star. She is the bride whom he calls his sister. He seats himself upon his throne of Ba-(soul)-Metal.
A new 'Layer' of 'Revelation' I have discovered, prove translators either deliberatly hid what you are about to read, or got it 100% WRONG!
In the egyptian txts, at some point in the past, according to translators, a great 'Calamity' took place, regarding Isis.
I propose it is happening as I write this.
There is a heiroglyph that show's what 'appears' to be two 'lightbulbs' and in between them is a Djed pillar with two eyes, being 'raised' and is seen in the same 'angle' as many depictions of Jesus carrying the 'Cross of Galgotha'. Some argue this is some 'serpent' power, used by the egyptians, and they even try to prove it in many 'alien' programs on tv. I've never been in a lodge, so cant really say, but this could also represent the 'Candidate' being 'Raised' during initiation. Translators state at the point before the 'raising' of the Djed, that the god Set says: "Let's set up the Senti". Hold this thought.
I propose the 'Senti' being whomever those 'eyes' belong to, contained 'IN' the Dj'd (note my change of Djed to Dj'd) pillar being 'raised' is alive today. Writing this. No?
My theory consists of several 'points' I must show, and they cant all be shown in a single paragraph, so I'll start with the easiest: Ra's symbol is a cat.
Lets do my birth sign first to make things 'Super' easy:
To be born on my birthdate in 'Solar' astrology is to be 'Aquarius', who's opposite is 'Leo' = A solar CAT.
To be born on my birthdate in 'Lunar' astrology is to be a 'Monkey', who's opposite is 'Tiger' = A lunar CAT.
Already we have 2 cats, one solar, one lunar. My next appearace will be as a CAT fish.
My time of birth is 17.32 according to my birth certificate. In Lunar Astrology, this is the hour of Ba-Metal, 'Ba' = 'Soul'.
The Lunar year 1968/69 is a + Earth year.
Nuff said re: my birthdate.
So what about tananet?
A breif rundown. Seems there is a god who creates the world, and does so in some ritual involving masturbation, and this is the scource of 'Tananet' as it went from 'Tent-het-nub' to whatever other alternatives that went from Tent-Het-nub, a pharoah, to Tannt to Tannanet, and then it hit me, I found it in, wait for it, Donald Mackenzies book, legends of the Gods, so I'll quote what I found directly:
'An interesting contrast is afforded by the two great rival religions of this period of transition. While the theology of Heliopolis was based upon sun worship, that of Memphis was based upon earth worship.
Ptah, the creation elf (I was less than 4 feet when I left school, a midget) of the latter city, had been united with Tanen or Tatûnen, (Note Edinburgh Tattoo(N?), the earth giant, who resembles Seb. The dwarfish deity then assumed gigantic proportions, and became a "world god" or Great Father. A hymn addressed to Ptah Tanen declares that his head is in the heavens while his feet are on the earth or in the Duat, the underworld. "The wind", declared the priestly poet, "issues from your nostrils (my broken nose makes breathing difficult and loud) and the waters from your mouth (new falsers and forced injections cause 'dribbling'). Upon your back grows the grain. The sun and the moon are your eyes. When you do sleep it is dark, and when you do open your eyes it is bright again.
Ptah Tanen was lauded as "a perfect god" who came forth "perfect in all his parts" (I was born with a full set of teeth). At the beginning he was all alone. He built up his body and shaped his limbs ere the sky was fashioned and the world was set in order, and ere the waters issued (from firth of) forth. Unlike Ra, he did not rise from the primordial deep. "You did discover yourself", sang the Memphite poet, "in the circumstance of one who made for himself a (Arthurs?) seat and shaped the Two Lands". The suggestion is that, therefore, of a mountain giant with his 'seat' or 'chair' upon some lofty peak, an idea which only a hill folk could have imported. "No father begot you and no mother gave you birth," the poet declared; "You did fashion yourself without the aid of any other being.'
Then I find in G.R.S.Meads 'Mysteries of Amenta':
It is the chapter by which one assumes the form of Ptah, the great architect of the universe. The speaker says, “He is four times the arm’s length of Ra, four times the width of the world” ( Rit., ch. 82, Renouf), which is a mode of describing the four quarters or four sides of the earth, as represented by the Egyptians. There were seven primary powers in the mythical and astronomical phases, six of whom are represented by zootypes, and the seventh is imaged in the likeness of a man.
Now the pyramid is 4 x 756 feet at base, but 4 times the width of Ra? = 12.756!
Now you know ptah tatunen is the great architect... of edinburgh... wiccans call him John Barleycorn. Wiccan witchcraft IS freemasonry, who cant say jesus, so use john, or ptah!!!
To badecker: read the pistis sophia by grs mead. I read the real deal, its held under lock n key, white glove material in the national library... while reading, search that txt for elizabeth, in particular, to 'whom' she sent her light to, and why!
How I 'use' Magic Squares:
--------------------------
When counting, I start at 1. Then 2. Then 3. No Magic Square can be created using either 0, 1, or 2, so in this txt, 0, 1, or 2 can be dropped, but only in reference to magic squares. This paragraph is to help understand that 0 can be 3, 1 can be 4, and 2 can be 5. If this seems stupid, try this: 3 x 4 x 5 = 60 seconds!
For example, I take the largest circle, and call it 'The Constellations' which = 2592 years, and devide it with 2869, seen in the last line of the magic square of the moon. 2592/2869 = 0.90345068, and if I write this equation out using magic squares in relation to their respective planets, the result is thus: Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Mercury. Note last two digits = Year of the +Earth Monkey. Notice Venus is 'missing'?
Now take the Pyramid of Gezeh. Its total base length is 3024 (units). Do same as above to find Saturn and Jupiter. Then do the same with the pyramids height, 480.05 (units) to find Jupiter, Mercury, and Mars.
Translate these planets to their respective magic squares, Using the following:
3 is Saturn: 3 x 15 = 45 (9)
4 is Jupiter: 4 x 34 = 136 (16)
5 is Mars: 5 x 65 = 325 (25)
6 is Sun: 6 x 111 = 666 (36)
7 is Venus: 7 x 175 = 1225 (49)
8 is Mercury: 8 x 260 = 2080 (64)
9 is Moon: 9 x 369 = 3321 (81)
So I take a single side of the pyramid of Gezeh (Gezeh = Egyptian spelling of Jesus) and at first I see a length of 756 feet, and say wow, that's Venus (175), Mars (65), and the Sun (111), in the measurements order. 175 + 65 + 111 = 2216. So I then check the height of pyramid, 480 give or take half a foot, say Jupiter (136) + Mercury (2080) and find again, 2216. Does Revelation 22:16 Ring a bell? Notice we can only 'use' the magic square of the Sun out of 2216, 6, it's number being either 111 or 666? The numbers in brackets in the chart above, are exactly how many numbers create this magic square, 36 representing a circle of 360, but of course, in hebrew we drop the zero, leaving 36, being Saturn and the Sun, Revealing Horus, shining on Saturn, the 'Bull in Amentet', or the 'Bull of Bakha' and how Thoth is also Chronos, because Ra is the sun-LIGHT on the moon, its reflection on Saturn IS Chronos, not the planet, so Isis could not kill Ra ever, or she would be in the dark...
Take the number 0.90345068 above, relate planets to the smaller digits being 369 + 260 + 111 + 65 + 34 + 15 = 854 = Mercury, Mars, Jupiter.
Using same number above: 45 + 136 + 325 + 666 + 2080 + 3321 = 6573 = Sun, Mars, Mercury, Saturn.
Notice anything missing in the last paragraph? Venus. Lacking a goddess's voice?
In Revelation, the son of God promises to give the morning star to him that overcomes.
“As I also have received of my father; I will give him the morning star”. (Rev. II. 28).
The morning star was equally identified with Horus:
“I know the powers of the east: Horus of the mount of glory, the calf in presence of the god, and the star of dawn”.
The powers represented are Atum-Ra, the father, with Horus (or Jesus) the son, as a calf, the later lamb. This is Horus of the morning star. The powers are Atum, the father, Horus (as Sebek), the son, and Hathor as the bride. The morning star was given by Horus to his followers who were reborn in Sothis, which of course is Sirius, located in the constelation Canis Major, the dog star, proving the Sphinx should be a dog, with the pointed nose of the baboon monkey. Was it Heroditus, who once described the Sphinx as having the teeth of a 'sabre tooth tiger'?
Another similar txt:
The rebirth of Pepi was in or as the morning star: “his guide the morning star leads him to paradise, where he seats himself upon his throne”. (Arthurs Seat?) <- now proven.
When Pepi goes forth into heaven he is led by Septet, the female Sothis, and his guide is the morning star. She is the bride whom he calls his sister. He seats himself upon his throne of Ba-(soul)-Metal.
A new 'Layer' of 'Revelation' I have discovered, prove translators either deliberatly hid what you are about to read, or got it 100% WRONG!
In the egyptian txts, at some point in the past, according to translators, a great 'Calamity' took place, regarding Isis.
I propose it is happening as I write this.
There is a heiroglyph that show's what 'appears' to be two 'lightbulbs' and in between them is a Djed pillar with two eyes, being 'raised' and is seen in the same 'angle' as many depictions of Jesus carrying the 'Cross of Galgotha'. Some argue this is some 'serpent' power, used by the egyptians, and they even try to prove it in many 'alien' programs on tv. I've never been in a lodge, so cant really say, but this could also represent the 'Candidate' being 'Raised' during initiation. Translators state at the point before the 'raising' of the Djed, that the god Set says: "Let's set up the Senti". Hold this thought.
I propose the 'Senti' being whomever those 'eyes' belong to, contained 'IN' the Dj'd (note my change of Djed to Dj'd) pillar being 'raised' is alive today. Writing this. No?
My theory consists of several 'points' I must show, and they cant all be shown in a single paragraph, so I'll start with the easiest: Ra's symbol is a cat.
Lets do my birth sign first to make things 'Super' easy:
To be born on my birthdate in 'Solar' astrology is to be 'Aquarius', who's opposite is 'Leo' = A solar CAT.
To be born on my birthdate in 'Lunar' astrology is to be a 'Monkey', who's opposite is 'Tiger' = A lunar CAT.
Already we have 2 cats, one solar, one lunar. My next appearace will be as a CAT fish.
My time of birth is 17.32 according to my birth certificate. In Lunar Astrology, this is the hour of Ba-Metal, 'Ba' = 'Soul'.
The Lunar year 1968/69 is a + Earth year.
Nuff said re: my birthdate.
So what about tananet?
A breif rundown. Seems there is a god who creates the world, and does so in some ritual involving masturbation, and this is the scource of 'Tananet' as it went from 'Tent-het-nub' to whatever other alternatives that went from Tent-Het-nub, a pharoah, to Tannt to Tannanet, and then it hit me, I found it in, wait for it, Donald Mackenzies book, legends of the Gods, so I'll quote what I found directly:
'An interesting contrast is afforded by the two great rival religions of this period of transition. While the theology of Heliopolis was based upon sun worship, that of Memphis was based upon earth worship.
Ptah, the creation elf (I was less than 4 feet when I left school, a midget) of the latter city, had been united with Tanen or Tatûnen, (Note Edinburgh Tattoo(N?), the earth giant, who resembles Seb. The dwarfish deity then assumed gigantic proportions, and became a "world god" or Great Father. A hymn addressed to Ptah Tanen declares that his head is in the heavens while his feet are on the earth or in the Duat, the underworld. "The wind", declared the priestly poet, "issues from your nostrils (my broken nose makes breathing difficult and loud) and the waters from your mouth (new falsers and forced injections cause 'dribbling'). Upon your back grows the grain. The sun and the moon are your eyes. When you do sleep it is dark, and when you do open your eyes it is bright again.
Ptah Tanen was lauded as "a perfect god" who came forth "perfect in all his parts" (I was born with a full set of teeth). At the beginning he was all alone. He built up his body and shaped his limbs ere the sky was fashioned and the world was set in order, and ere the waters issued (from firth of) forth. Unlike Ra, he did not rise from the primordial deep. "You did discover yourself", sang the Memphite poet, "in the circumstance of one who made for himself a (Arthurs?) seat and shaped the Two Lands". The suggestion is that, therefore, of a mountain giant with his 'seat' or 'chair' upon some lofty peak, an idea which only a hill folk could have imported. "No father begot you and no mother gave you birth," the poet declared; "You did fashion yourself without the aid of any other being.'
Then I find in G.R.S.Meads 'Mysteries of Amenta':
It is the chapter by which one assumes the form of Ptah, the great architect of the universe. The speaker says, “He is four times the arm’s length of Ra, four times the width of the world” ( Rit., ch. 82, Renouf), which is a mode of describing the four quarters or four sides of the earth, as represented by the Egyptians. There were seven primary powers in the mythical and astronomical phases, six of whom are represented by zootypes, and the seventh is imaged in the likeness of a man.
Now the pyramid is 4 x 756 feet at base, but 4 times the width of Ra? = 12.756!
Now you know ptah tatunen is the great architect... of edinburgh... wiccans call him John Barleycorn. Wiccan witchcraft IS freemasonry, who cant say jesus, so use john, or ptah!!!
To badecker: read the pistis sophia by grs mead. I read the real deal, its held under lock n key, white glove material in the national library... while reading, search that txt for elizabeth, in particular, to 'whom' she sent her light to, and why!
Wow, its been so long since i was last here... 22 court dates so far, and I'm not allowed to stand in the court dock.. seems I got a glow, or light... did you know that it is illegal in the uk for anyone who has been given a mystery of the light, to stand in court?
I've grown up a lot, seems I'm well, on fire, according to a kid who screamed it out pointing at me as I crossed the very busy princess st..
Hey badecker, long time no read...
hows your knowledge on the pistis sophia, ever read it?
Look at a map of scotland, preferably the National OS map of edinburgh.. make sure you see a large portion of the area surrounding this city. Notice it looks like a skull? Now count the 12 cranial nerves, the eyes, the neck, if your good, you'll follow the main routes and see a rather large man on a cross! His arms stretch south of the pentland hills, if you follow this right arm. Down the right side, you'll come to a place called Temple, this is where Jesus was stabbed in the ribs with the spear of destiny. his left hand side is the entire length of the A68 , go north to tranent, his left shoulder, left arm stretched to the east. now asides from a very co-incidental secret name of jesus christ, it is said in the pistis sophia, he who finds it is that man, and I'm not talking about rabbie burns scottish Osiris, the wiccan john barleycorn, but that I did indeed find the likeness spoken of in the pistis sophia... masons built it.. its over 3000 years in the making, and is actually the small man carried on the back of the egyptian god Meurt!
So much to share regarding this amazing discovery, but how to put it into words...
I've grown up a lot, seems I'm well, on fire, according to a kid who screamed it out pointing at me as I crossed the very busy princess st..
Hey badecker, long time no read...
hows your knowledge on the pistis sophia, ever read it?
Look at a map of scotland, preferably the National OS map of edinburgh.. make sure you see a large portion of the area surrounding this city. Notice it looks like a skull? Now count the 12 cranial nerves, the eyes, the neck, if your good, you'll follow the main routes and see a rather large man on a cross! His arms stretch south of the pentland hills, if you follow this right arm. Down the right side, you'll come to a place called Temple, this is where Jesus was stabbed in the ribs with the spear of destiny. his left hand side is the entire length of the A68 , go north to tranent, his left shoulder, left arm stretched to the east. now asides from a very co-incidental secret name of jesus christ, it is said in the pistis sophia, he who finds it is that man, and I'm not talking about rabbie burns scottish Osiris, the wiccan john barleycorn, but that I did indeed find the likeness spoken of in the pistis sophia... masons built it.. its over 3000 years in the making, and is actually the small man carried on the back of the egyptian god Meurt!
So much to share regarding this amazing discovery, but how to put it into words...
religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.
The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.
writing theories alone is not science..
its the peer review of testing and testing and each peer validates the theory
religion does not test and validate. they just echo chamber each other into 'confirmation bias' belief
note the difference
just because millions of fans of harry potter all read the book and watched the movie does not make harry potter real
..
your attempts to say science isnt real thus god is
is about as insane as saying
bananas arnt biological, thus harry potter is real
Peer reviewing of a theory only validates the theory as a theory. We want facts. Not just the fact that the theory is a theory.
Religion tests and validates all the time. Whatever the religion, people have reasons for being part of that religion. However, often it's fear of the alternative. If they didn't test and validate it - at least as the best option for them in their life - they would leave it.
It DOES make Harry Potter real for each of them to some extent. ALL HP readers know that HP isn't real as written. Or at least they know he isn't real in their life as they live it. So, reading HP makes him real for them in the ways that they can believe and validate... in the humanness of HP and the people. If the author hadn't made HP believable, nobody would even bother with him and the books.
Your suggestion that I am attempting to say that science isn't real is as flawed as your faith in science. After all, science - the knowledge of the physics interactions in the universe - is way beyond what anybody can understand. We don't even know that programming all known scientific info into an AI computer will give us the answers.
If you want to see the big flaw in scientific consensus, look up The Highwire here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - and here - https://thehighwire.com/. Then watch the weekly videos for the last 3 years. What you will find is that there are loads of scientists who have good factual understanding and knowledge that the scientific consensus regarding Covid and the Covid vaxx is pure baloney.
What will you really be watching in these videos? The politicization of science. Science has become a religion just like any other religion. If it doesn't straighten up people will stop believing it.
religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.
The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.
writing theories alone is not science..
its the peer review of testing and testing and each peer validates the theory
religion does not test and validate. they just echo chamber each other into 'confirmation bias' belief
note the difference
just because millions of fans of harry potter all read the book and watched the movie does not make harry potter real
..
your attempts to say science isnt real thus god is
is about as insane as saying
bananas arnt biological, thus harry potter is real
religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.
The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.
religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory
scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them
You stated well, regarding random. Just about the same thing that I had said. To carry it a bit further, since random is so complex that we can't tell which or what, how do we know that random even has anything to do with it? So, the evolution religion is simply another religion, with the religious leaders (scientists and those who control them) trying to make money and make a name for themselves. Sure, they don't call themselves priests. That word is for other religions. The evolution religion is better. Call them scientists.
People live in caves all over the world. You can find people who look like the evolution kind of cave people, today, if you look for it. Genetics is complex. People who live in caves don't usually go around trying to predict what is happening with their environment and genetics. And certainly scientists can't do that. Mostly what they have is talk.
Nobody is saying that mutations don't happen. What is being said is that Evolution Theory essentially states that the kind of evolution theorized by it, is something that doesn't have any basis in fact... based on the idea of random mutations. All it is, is a form of religion for certain groups of people (scientists) who don't want to accept other religions.
We could state all kinds of facts of science till the sun goes down. But when you consider two things:
1. epigenetics;
2. placebo effect;
... you see that all of genetics and so-called evolution is in the hands of anybody who wants to develop his ability to use them. Things that exist are things that God set in place, to give peple the opportunity to develop themselves into whatever they want.
God did this through Jesus - the death and resurrection of Jesus - so that now we can be children of God... or not, through unbelief. It's personal epigenetics. This is why we can find mutations doing things... because people (mostly evolution scientists) use epigenetics and placebo effect to make mutations to be real. But look at how difficult it is for them. Thousands of years of the idea of evolution, and all they have so far is a few random mutations, without any evolution fact. Without this kind of stupidity, people would be perfect, because in nature there isn't any evolution of the kind proposed in Evolution Theory. In nature without stupid people stupidly using epigenetics and placebo effect, there is only perfection.
People live in caves all over the world. You can find people who look like the evolution kind of cave people, today, if you look for it. Genetics is complex. People who live in caves don't usually go around trying to predict what is happening with their environment and genetics. And certainly scientists can't do that. Mostly what they have is talk.
Nobody is saying that mutations don't happen. What is being said is that Evolution Theory essentially states that the kind of evolution theorized by it, is something that doesn't have any basis in fact... based on the idea of random mutations. All it is, is a form of religion for certain groups of people (scientists) who don't want to accept other religions.
We could state all kinds of facts of science till the sun goes down. But when you consider two things:
1. epigenetics;
2. placebo effect;
... you see that all of genetics and so-called evolution is in the hands of anybody who wants to develop his ability to use them. Things that exist are things that God set in place, to give peple the opportunity to develop themselves into whatever they want.
God did this through Jesus - the death and resurrection of Jesus - so that now we can be children of God... or not, through unbelief. It's personal epigenetics. This is why we can find mutations doing things... because people (mostly evolution scientists) use epigenetics and placebo effect to make mutations to be real. But look at how difficult it is for them. Thousands of years of the idea of evolution, and all they have so far is a few random mutations, without any evolution fact. Without this kind of stupidity, people would be perfect, because in nature there isn't any evolution of the kind proposed in Evolution Theory. In nature without stupid people stupidly using epigenetics and placebo effect, there is only perfection.
random is never random.. its a buzzword to mean so many variables are involved in the cause, that its super difficult to predict the effect
EG
random evolution of thyroid gland. cavemen never could have predicted it would result in certain clans to get smarter and start winning more fights eventually killing off the primitive lineages where the stronger generations of evolution survive.
and yes mutations happen all the time.. and when its time for you to finally have sex. if you manage to make someone pregnant and want to keep your offspring. you will learn that your offspring is not 100% identical to you
also your body is climatized to your locality.. EG lets say northern europe.. imagine you migrate to california/medrid where its "always sunny"
you will forever sweat in the heat of 22oc+, but your children will EASILY adapt and think 24oc is an average day
mutation is not just at birth. people can change and adapt at certain stages of life which can then be passed down
welcome to real science and nature, survival of the fittest.. its been going on long long long before your beloved sci-fi character "jesus"
EG
random evolution of thyroid gland. cavemen never could have predicted it would result in certain clans to get smarter and start winning more fights eventually killing off the primitive lineages where the stronger generations of evolution survive.
and yes mutations happen all the time.. and when its time for you to finally have sex. if you manage to make someone pregnant and want to keep your offspring. you will learn that your offspring is not 100% identical to you
also your body is climatized to your locality.. EG lets say northern europe.. imagine you migrate to california/medrid where its "always sunny"
you will forever sweat in the heat of 22oc+, but your children will EASILY adapt and think 24oc is an average day
mutation is not just at birth. people can change and adapt at certain stages of life which can then be passed down
welcome to real science and nature, survival of the fittest.. its been going on long long long before your beloved sci-fi character "jesus"
The book of John (John 6:41-59) was written 80 years after Jesus died. You have no foundation.
What's the difference. It simply shows that John was a guy who lived a long and brain-healthy life... assuming that you are right about this. Assuming you are right, I would call it 80 years minus 3 days since Jesus arose from the dead.
The concept of Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam is indeed fascinating. These terms don't refer to biblical figures but rather to scientific hypotheses based on genetics.
Mitochondrial Eve is a scientific theory tracing back the matrilineal most recent common ancestor of all living humans. Similarly, Y-Chromosome Adam is the patrilineal most recent common ancestor. They lived thousands of years apart and weren't the only humans alive at their respective times.
These concepts don't necessarily prove the existence of a biblical God. They indicate common ancestry, which aligns with evolutionary theory. The scientific understanding of human genetics doesn't directly validate religious creation stories. Instead, it provides insights into our ancestral origins and evolutionary history.
Regarding your question about scientific proof of God's existence, science tends to deal with observable, testable phenomena. Proving or disproving the existence of a deity falls more within the realm of philosophy or theology, which use different methodologies than empirical science.
Opinions on this topic vary widely. Some see scientific gaps as potential places for God's intervention, while others perceive these gaps as areas awaiting further scientific exploration and explanation.
What's your perspective on this? Do you see scientific findings like Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam as evidence for a divine creator, or do you think they align more with our understanding of evolution?
Mitochondrial Eve is a scientific theory tracing back the matrilineal most recent common ancestor of all living humans. Similarly, Y-Chromosome Adam is the patrilineal most recent common ancestor. They lived thousands of years apart and weren't the only humans alive at their respective times.
These concepts don't necessarily prove the existence of a biblical God. They indicate common ancestry, which aligns with evolutionary theory. The scientific understanding of human genetics doesn't directly validate religious creation stories. Instead, it provides insights into our ancestral origins and evolutionary history.
Regarding your question about scientific proof of God's existence, science tends to deal with observable, testable phenomena. Proving or disproving the existence of a deity falls more within the realm of philosophy or theology, which use different methodologies than empirical science.
Opinions on this topic vary widely. Some see scientific gaps as potential places for God's intervention, while others perceive these gaps as areas awaiting further scientific exploration and explanation.
What's your perspective on this? Do you see scientific findings like Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam as evidence for a divine creator, or do you think they align more with our understanding of evolution?
Anybody who accepts evolution hasn't looked at evolution theory very deeply.
All evolution theory is based on the idea of random mutations. This idea completely contradicts the law of cause-and-effect. Cause and effect says that there is no random.
The point is that 'random mutations' in evolution are simply mutations that we don't know about. But since we don't know about them, how can we know that evolution happened this way, or that it even happened?
So, the basic premise for evolution is a lie.
One other point is, science is finally recognizing that the so-called random mutations were not random, after all. But they still haven't been able to figure out what the exact mutation process was, to say nothing about proving it. If they do, will they be able to produce the next generation in the line of evolution of people? Probably it will take way too long, and Jesus will return first, and show them about God.
The concept of Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam is indeed fascinating. These terms don't refer to biblical figures but rather to scientific hypotheses based on genetics.
Mitochondrial Eve is a scientific theory tracing back the matrilineal most recent common ancestor of all living humans. Similarly, Y-Chromosome Adam is the patrilineal most recent common ancestor. They lived thousands of years apart and weren't the only humans alive at their respective times.
These concepts don't necessarily prove the existence of a biblical God. They indicate common ancestry, which aligns with evolutionary theory. The scientific understanding of human genetics doesn't directly validate religious creation stories. Instead, it provides insights into our ancestral origins and evolutionary history.
Regarding your question about scientific proof of God's existence, science tends to deal with observable, testable phenomena. Proving or disproving the existence of a deity falls more within the realm of philosophy or theology, which use different methodologies than empirical science.
Opinions on this topic vary widely. Some see scientific gaps as potential places for God's intervention, while others perceive these gaps as areas awaiting further scientific exploration and explanation.
What's your perspective on this? Do you see scientific findings like Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam as evidence for a divine creator, or do you think they align more with our understanding of evolution?
Mitochondrial Eve is a scientific theory tracing back the matrilineal most recent common ancestor of all living humans. Similarly, Y-Chromosome Adam is the patrilineal most recent common ancestor. They lived thousands of years apart and weren't the only humans alive at their respective times.
These concepts don't necessarily prove the existence of a biblical God. They indicate common ancestry, which aligns with evolutionary theory. The scientific understanding of human genetics doesn't directly validate religious creation stories. Instead, it provides insights into our ancestral origins and evolutionary history.
Regarding your question about scientific proof of God's existence, science tends to deal with observable, testable phenomena. Proving or disproving the existence of a deity falls more within the realm of philosophy or theology, which use different methodologies than empirical science.
Opinions on this topic vary widely. Some see scientific gaps as potential places for God's intervention, while others perceive these gaps as areas awaiting further scientific exploration and explanation.
What's your perspective on this? Do you see scientific findings like Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam as evidence for a divine creator, or do you think they align more with our understanding of evolution?
The book of John (John 6:41-59) was written 80 years after Jesus died. You have no foundation.
^^^ Cute campfire stories you have there. BTW, our thinking and emotions and consciousness are made of electrical and other waves, right?, most of which are in the human body and brain. So the fact of all kinds of energy waves in the aether, simply proves that God is Great, and exists with those waves. The greatest thinker scientists among us hasn't come close to being able to examine those aether waves because of their complexity. The greatest thinker scientist will tell you that we only know a tiny amount of what is there to be discovered.
Few scientists prove any piece of science that exists. Rather, they often simply listen to the consensus of those who have said that they have proven it. But no scientist has enough scientific proof for your campfire stories. The proof for the Bible, however, is the consensus of millions of people, several millions of whom witnessed the miracles of Moses, others who witnessed miracles of the prophets, and still others who witness the miracles of Jesus and His apostles.
The proof of the strength and truth of the Bible lies in the fact of how many Bibles are in print. When this is compared to other books, in addition to the statistical science that exists around the Nation of Ancient Israel, proof exists in statistical science. But if you don't accept the consensus, and don't work the statistical proofs yourself, you won't ever see the science.
Furthermore, look at what Jesus said when Jewish people were arguing about who Jesus was, John 6:41-59:
The important part is, “Stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."
Few scientists prove any piece of science that exists. Rather, they often simply listen to the consensus of those who have said that they have proven it. But no scientist has enough scientific proof for your campfire stories. The proof for the Bible, however, is the consensus of millions of people, several millions of whom witnessed the miracles of Moses, others who witnessed miracles of the prophets, and still others who witness the miracles of Jesus and His apostles.
The proof of the strength and truth of the Bible lies in the fact of how many Bibles are in print. When this is compared to other books, in addition to the statistical science that exists around the Nation of Ancient Israel, proof exists in statistical science. But if you don't accept the consensus, and don't work the statistical proofs yourself, you won't ever see the science.
Furthermore, look at what Jesus said when Jewish people were arguing about who Jesus was, John 6:41-59:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/john/6.htm
41At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”
43“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ d Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
53Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
43“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ d Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
53Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
The important part is, “Stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."
Scientists can't prove the existence of God, they can only be aware of his existence, not to prove his existence with fallible human senses. In the consciousness of all there is that gap that need be filled, in your consciousness there is one God...
they cannot prove "god" is a "he"(humanoid entity)
however the existance of what began everything is proven as the energy of plasma waves that created via cohesion all matter and became all things..
thus god is the energy of all things in the form of plasma waves of frequency
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the bible is not about science proof of the origins of all things. its a collection of campfire stories to program peoples minds in a certain judgemental/moral(you choose) way
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what if i told you the bible is not the literal science of everything, but has made attempts using childish metaphors to explain things in te way our ancestors would understand
lets put it this way
before 0AD greek scholars knew about the evolution of man from ancient cretins(cavemen) to human
they knew it was the evolution of the thyroid gland(apple shaped gland in throat)
so in later years when kids around campfires asked how did humans come to be. the science got mixed into metaphors and silly fictions to morph from the science knowledge of cretin evolution.. and turned into the 'first human eating a apple and gained wisdom and conscious freedom to seek knowledge'
also to note the word chistian comes from the old roman times post 0AD of christianus which also is related to the becoming of human from a cretin
yep the origins of christianity is actually based on the evolution from caveman to human.. its not based on humans just appearing in eden from nothing before them
this is where the bible messes things up with its edits and adaptations and campfire alterations over the centuries
lastly
in modern times if a child is born lacking a thyroid gland/thyroid function and has no medication to supplement the hormones. they would grow up as a devolved caveman like individual. thats science
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