Topic: Health and Religion - page 78. (Read 210900 times)
there is a correlation between health and religion, religion suggests us the disciplinary way to lead a life. if you will follow the rules and regulation then you become physically fit, any prohibition from the religion is bad for health, so follow the religious rules and keep yourself mentally and physically fit...
Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure
That is your point of view but you cannot also blame the bond that a certain religion can provide to its people . true religion In my opinion we can consider our soul as healthy but of course it does not apply to everyone
There is actually a saying that goes if you wanted to become rich then you shoukd build your own religion and i guess that this is really happening. I am not so sure tho about their motives but i usually do not trust leaders
Is it true that Man is a primarily religious being?
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2017/06/is-it-true-that-man-is-primarily.html
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2017/06/is-it-true-that-man-is-primarily.html
Quote from: Bruce Charlton
The literal insanity of mainstream public discourse, and the lack of insight of this fact, suggests that Man without religion is non-viable.
To put matters another way - religion is the most important thing in the human world.
Of course, a few individuals, in the short term, can survive atheism mentally intact; but there is no evidence at all that this is a possibility for human societies over more than a few decades - then the signs of insanity (incoherence, exitinction) become more-and-more obvious... or they would do so if loss of insight was not itself a prime sign of insanity.
So insanity shields us from knowledge of our own insanity, because insanity destroys insight as much as it destroys judgement - it affects the whole mode of thinking.
How, then, do we know we, as a society, are insane?
1. By applying older judgements, from the time before Men became insane - reading old books, talking to non-modern people...
2. By looking at the basic biological viability of atheist societies in terms of reproduction, demographics, response to direct and immediate threats, scale of priorities ... Compare societies and groups that are biologically viable, with the modern atheist societies that are not...
3. By reflecting on how we feel about Life. Insane people are almost always miserable - dysphoric, despairing, desperate... almost all of the time. Even the euphoric frenzy of mania is brittle, and crashes into suicidal self-destruction with a high frequency. Is there hope?
In conclusion - religion is the most important thing.
Religion is necessary for long term motivation, for social coherence, for purpose, and to enable the individual to be a part of the whole.
Since religion is necessary, if or when humans either dispense with religion or else place it anything lower than first in priority; then they as individuals and their societies will begin to fall apart and spiral towards alienation, purposelessness, inability to perceive or reason what is important, cowardice (i.e. short-term selfishness), desperation and all the rest of it.
Modernity is the experiment of Man living without Religion. The experiment has been running for several generations.
But the experiment of modernity has deprived modern people of the motivation, honesty and ability to evaluate the results of the experiment - by the always changing criteria of modernity, modernity sees no alternative to itself...
Conclusion: Religion is objectively necessary; and, by one kind of reasoning, therefore true. If you are not religious you are living in error. If you are not religious then you need to become religious. The question you must settle is not whether you should be religious, but which religion you will adopt.
To put matters another way - religion is the most important thing in the human world.
Of course, a few individuals, in the short term, can survive atheism mentally intact; but there is no evidence at all that this is a possibility for human societies over more than a few decades - then the signs of insanity (incoherence, exitinction) become more-and-more obvious... or they would do so if loss of insight was not itself a prime sign of insanity.
So insanity shields us from knowledge of our own insanity, because insanity destroys insight as much as it destroys judgement - it affects the whole mode of thinking.
How, then, do we know we, as a society, are insane?
1. By applying older judgements, from the time before Men became insane - reading old books, talking to non-modern people...
2. By looking at the basic biological viability of atheist societies in terms of reproduction, demographics, response to direct and immediate threats, scale of priorities ... Compare societies and groups that are biologically viable, with the modern atheist societies that are not...
3. By reflecting on how we feel about Life. Insane people are almost always miserable - dysphoric, despairing, desperate... almost all of the time. Even the euphoric frenzy of mania is brittle, and crashes into suicidal self-destruction with a high frequency. Is there hope?
In conclusion - religion is the most important thing.
Religion is necessary for long term motivation, for social coherence, for purpose, and to enable the individual to be a part of the whole.
Since religion is necessary, if or when humans either dispense with religion or else place it anything lower than first in priority; then they as individuals and their societies will begin to fall apart and spiral towards alienation, purposelessness, inability to perceive or reason what is important, cowardice (i.e. short-term selfishness), desperation and all the rest of it.
Modernity is the experiment of Man living without Religion. The experiment has been running for several generations.
But the experiment of modernity has deprived modern people of the motivation, honesty and ability to evaluate the results of the experiment - by the always changing criteria of modernity, modernity sees no alternative to itself...
Conclusion: Religion is objectively necessary; and, by one kind of reasoning, therefore true. If you are not religious you are living in error. If you are not religious then you need to become religious. The question you must settle is not whether you should be religious, but which religion you will adopt.
"Everything happens for a reason"; what reason is given by the atheist for "everything"?
Same question that I have. af_newbie seems to be dedicated to his religion of non-religion.
According to the dictionary, religion is, among other things, "... something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience."
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
Why you need to resort to the double talk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
FYI,
"Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental."
Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t
religion
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
You religiotards have your own dictionary.com to redefine everything. How sad?
Try this
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/religion
A partial from the Oxford Living Dictionaries:
1.2 A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.
‘consumerism is the new religion’
More example sentences
‘The consequent pursuit of thinness had become a new religion, she said, and she showed a range of advertisements to support her claims.’
‘It's the backdrop because football is considered a religion worldwide and the most viewed game.’
‘We've been told time and again that cricket is a religion in India.’
‘The pursuit of eating raw food has become a religion of the nuttier kind.’
‘This brings up another point: hockey in the BCHL ceases to be a religion and becomes secondary to education.’
‘It serves only one master - corporate greed - that is their religion and their power.’
‘Online marketers realize that return on investment is the religion they need to follow.’
‘In this city where rugby is a religion, there is the feeling that Moses has led them to the mountaintop.’
‘consumerism is the new religion’
More example sentences
‘The consequent pursuit of thinness had become a new religion, she said, and she showed a range of advertisements to support her claims.’
‘It's the backdrop because football is considered a religion worldwide and the most viewed game.’
‘We've been told time and again that cricket is a religion in India.’
‘The pursuit of eating raw food has become a religion of the nuttier kind.’
‘This brings up another point: hockey in the BCHL ceases to be a religion and becomes secondary to education.’
‘It serves only one master - corporate greed - that is their religion and their power.’
‘Online marketers realize that return on investment is the religion they need to follow.’
‘In this city where rugby is a religion, there is the feeling that Moses has led them to the mountaintop.’
This is a really good dictionary. Thanks for your help.
Even if you apply this colloquial use of the word, it will still not work with Atheism. Atheists do not do anything 'religiously'.
If you want to use word religion to mean any activity that is performed repeatedly with dedication, sure, even us posting on this forum can be called 'bitcontalk' religion.
Heck, bitcoin hobby can be called religion as well.
If you ask anyone on the street what is religion, most people would say it is believing in God/supernatural.
In your case, in this forum, one of the most religious things you do is to promote non-religion. You are fanatically religious about this, to the point, almost, of being a zealot.
"Everything happens for a reason"; what reason is given by the atheist for "everything"?
According to the dictionary, religion is, among other things, "... something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience."
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
Why you need to resort to the double talk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
FYI,
"Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental."
Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t
religion
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
You religiotards have your own dictionary.com to redefine everything. How sad?
Try this
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/religion
A partial from the Oxford Living Dictionaries:
1.2 A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.
‘consumerism is the new religion’
More example sentences
‘The consequent pursuit of thinness had become a new religion, she said, and she showed a range of advertisements to support her claims.’
‘It's the backdrop because football is considered a religion worldwide and the most viewed game.’
‘We've been told time and again that cricket is a religion in India.’
‘The pursuit of eating raw food has become a religion of the nuttier kind.’
‘This brings up another point: hockey in the BCHL ceases to be a religion and becomes secondary to education.’
‘It serves only one master - corporate greed - that is their religion and their power.’
‘Online marketers realize that return on investment is the religion they need to follow.’
‘In this city where rugby is a religion, there is the feeling that Moses has led them to the mountaintop.’
‘consumerism is the new religion’
More example sentences
‘The consequent pursuit of thinness had become a new religion, she said, and she showed a range of advertisements to support her claims.’
‘It's the backdrop because football is considered a religion worldwide and the most viewed game.’
‘We've been told time and again that cricket is a religion in India.’
‘The pursuit of eating raw food has become a religion of the nuttier kind.’
‘This brings up another point: hockey in the BCHL ceases to be a religion and becomes secondary to education.’
‘It serves only one master - corporate greed - that is their religion and their power.’
‘Online marketers realize that return on investment is the religion they need to follow.’
‘In this city where rugby is a religion, there is the feeling that Moses has led them to the mountaintop.’
This is a really good dictionary. Thanks for your help.
According to the dictionary, religion is, among other things, "... something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience."
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
Why you need to resort to the double talk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
FYI,
"Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental."
Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t
religion
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
[ri-lij-uh n]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.
Religion infects people minds. Religious people can't think for themselves most of the times. For example when there was a huge debate about gay rights and gay marriage, a lot of religious people opposed to them ONLY because it was what their religion dictated. NOT because they thought about it and determined it was bad, they didn't even think for themselves and chose to blindly obey what an old book told them.
Same thing happens with abortion and I am personally against abortion but again most religious people are against abortion just because of their religion NOT because they studied the issue. This keeps happening and will keep happening because these people can't critically think (Note: not every religious person is like this but a lot are)
Same thing happens with abortion and I am personally against abortion but again most religious people are against abortion just because of their religion NOT because they studied the issue. This keeps happening and will keep happening because these people can't critically think (Note: not every religious person is like this but a lot are)
Yes, I think that is part of reason why Jesus life and death resonates with so many. He saved people from damnation - and slavery by corrupt clergy regardless if it cost him his life and even regardless, if the freed commoners saw his sacrifice for what it was: Selfless act of love. The kind that is at best of times shown by parents to their children.
Christianity played huge role in knightly culture that developed in the west later on. For the first time in history, people felt, that they can be both just, protective and selfless, yet fierce warriors. Life and death of Christ humanized warrior culture and gave it meaning.
Nice picture, so romantic... the knight in armor is the protector, the savior, the hero. The woman look up to this Godly warrior as her savior - you can see the gratefulness on her face, her God saved her (by killing a few, or few hundred or even a few thousand human beings, not much different than the woman herself). No wonder God is a "he" a male figure. Poor females, they will have to bow the knee to their manly Gods. GOD be with them the day their heros aren't in such a good mood and want to take it out on his loyal subject(s).
You need to judge a system in comparison to the system it replaced not by the moral standards of a thousand years later. Chivalry emphasized bravery, military skill, generosity in victory, piety, and courtesy to women.
It was a tremendous improvement over the ethics of prior eras and a powerful testament to the civilizing power of ethical monotheism and Christianity.
This is the prior "ideal" it replaced. The veneration of the conquering alpha warrior.
Poor dippididodaday. Hasn't figured out that all people die, yet. Wants to blame the inner destructive qualities of mankind on God. So blind that he can't see that God is simply manipulating some of man's own destructive qualities to save some people from themselves... for eternal salvation.
So we see that it is essentially people like dippididodaday who promote destruction. But I will give him this. He may not know that he is doing what he is doing. But, don't count on it.
You still don't get it. God has nothing to do with the killings. It is people who do all the bad stuff because of their religion. Religious ideology is making otherwise normal people do some pretty insane things.
Religious ideas make people insane.
You still don't get it, do you. God has something to do with everything.
However, you are right about people. They do what they do because of their personal religion.
It is even your religious ideology that keeps you thinking that God doesn't exist.
It does not matter what I think or what you think. What matters is who gets killed because of the religion.
Harm the religious thinking causes is real. Currently, Islamism and Jihadism kills people as we type these messages.
BTW, I do not play your 'game'. I think only you think that 'not playing a sport' is a 'sport'.
Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sexual position.
According to the dictionary, religion is, among other things, "... something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience."
If you want to change the meaning of religion, go ahead. But if you want to be honest about it, explain your definition.
If you are talking about the religions that are organized as religions, say it. Others will want to use the dictionary definition, since the dictionary definition is generally what is accepted without special meanings being given.
Yes, I think that is part of reason why Jesus life and death resonates with so many. He saved people from damnation - and slavery by corrupt clergy regardless if it cost him his life and even regardless, if the freed commoners saw his sacrifice for what it was: Selfless act of love. The kind that is at best of times shown by parents to their children.
Christianity played huge role in knightly culture that developed in the west later on. For the first time in history, people felt, that they can be both just, protective and selfless, yet fierce warriors. Life and death of Christ humanized warrior culture and gave it meaning.
Nice picture, so romantic... the knight in armor is the protector, the savior, the hero. The woman look up to this Godly warrior as her savior - you can see the gratefulness on her face, her God saved her (by killing a few, or few hundred or even a few thousand human beings, not much different than the woman herself). No wonder God is a "he" a male figure. Poor females, they will have to bow the knee to their manly Gods. GOD be with them the day their heros aren't in such a good mood and want to take it out on his loyal subject(s).
You need to judge a system in comparison to the system it replaced not by the moral standards of a thousand years later. Chivalry emphasized bravery, military skill, generosity in victory, piety, and courtesy to women.
It was a tremendous improvement over the ethics of prior eras and a powerful testament to the civilizing power of ethical monotheism and Christianity.
This is the prior "ideal" it replaced. The veneration of the conquering alpha warrior.
Poor dippididodaday. Hasn't figured out that all people die, yet. Wants to blame the inner destructive qualities of mankind on God. So blind that he can't see that God is simply manipulating some of man's own destructive qualities to save some people from themselves... for eternal salvation.
So we see that it is essentially people like dippididodaday who promote destruction. But I will give him this. He may not know that he is doing what he is doing. But, don't count on it.
You still don't get it. God has nothing to do with the killings. It is people who do all the bad stuff because of their religion. Religious ideology is making otherwise normal people do some pretty insane things.
Religious ideas make people insane.
You still don't get it, do you. God has something to do with everything.
However, you are right about people. They do what they do because of their personal religion.
It is even your religious ideology that keeps you thinking that God doesn't exist.
Yes, I think that is part of reason why Jesus life and death resonates with so many. He saved people from damnation - and slavery by corrupt clergy regardless if it cost him his life and even regardless, if the freed commoners saw his sacrifice for what it was: Selfless act of love. The kind that is at best of times shown by parents to their children.
Christianity played huge role in knightly culture that developed in the west later on. For the first time in history, people felt, that they can be both just, protective and selfless, yet fierce warriors. Life and death of Christ humanized warrior culture and gave it meaning.
Nice picture, so romantic... the knight in armor is the protector, the savior, the hero. The woman look up to this Godly warrior as her savior - you can see the gratefulness on her face, her God saved her (by killing a few, or few hundred or even a few thousand human beings, not much different than the woman herself). No wonder God is a "he" a male figure. Poor females, they will have to bow the knee to their manly Gods. GOD be with them the day their heros aren't in such a good mood and want to take it out on his loyal subject(s).
You need to judge a system in comparison to the system it replaced not by the moral standards of a thousand years later. Chivalry emphasized bravery, military skill, generosity in victory, piety, and courtesy to women.
It was a tremendous improvement over the ethics of prior eras and a powerful testament to the civilizing power of ethical monotheism and Christianity.
This is the prior "ideal" it replaced. The veneration of the conquering alpha warrior.
Poor dippididodaday. Hasn't figured out that all people die, yet. Wants to blame the inner destructive qualities of mankind on God. So blind that he can't see that God is simply manipulating some of man's own destructive qualities to save some people from themselves... for eternal salvation.
So we see that it is essentially people like dippididodaday who promote destruction. But I will give him this. He may not know that he is doing what he is doing. But, don't count on it.
Yes, I think that is part of reason why Jesus life and death resonates with so many. He saved people from damnation - and slavery by corrupt clergy regardless if it cost him his life and even regardless, if the freed commoners saw his sacrifice for what it was: Selfless act of love. The kind that is at best of times shown by parents to their children.
Christianity played huge role in knightly culture that developed in the west later on. For the first time in history, people felt, that they can be both just, protective and selfless, yet fierce warriors. Life and death of Christ humanized warrior culture and gave it meaning.
Nice picture, so romantic... the knight in armor is the protector, the savior, the hero. The woman look up to this Godly warrior as her savior - you can see the gratefulness on her face, her God saved her (by killing a few, or few hundred or even a few thousand human beings, not much different than the woman herself). No wonder God is a "he" a male figure. Poor females, they will have to bow the knee to their manly Gods. GOD be with them the day their heros aren't in such a good mood and want to take it out on his loyal subject(s).
You need to judge a system in comparison to the system it replaced not by the moral standards of a thousand years later. Chivalry emphasized bravery, military skill, generosity in victory, piety, and courtesy to women.
It was a tremendous improvement over the ethics of prior eras and a powerful testament to the civilizing power of ethical monotheism and Christianity.
This is the prior "ideal" it replaced. The veneration of the conquering alpha warrior.
The study puts forth a new theoretical model: Religion provides a set of rules and beliefs guiding behavior, while spirituality offers methods for managing emotions internally and regulating the experience and expression of those emotions.
Religion helps followers engage in healthier lifestyle practices on a daily basis. Religious people tend to drink less alcohol, smoke less, and have healthier habits overall. Spirituality helps followers examine their feelings and mindfully witness their own fleeting emotions. Ultimately it helps us have a calmer outlook, lower blood pressure, and a more even-handed approach to dealing with life’s stresses.
Religion helps followers engage in healthier lifestyle practices on a daily basis. Religious people tend to drink less alcohol, smoke less, and have healthier habits overall. Spirituality helps followers examine their feelings and mindfully witness their own fleeting emotions. Ultimately it helps us have a calmer outlook, lower blood pressure, and a more even-handed approach to dealing with life’s stresses.
Try meditation. It really works.
.................Thanks_________________
The study puts forth a new theoretical model: Religion provides a set of rules and beliefs guiding behavior, while spirituality offers methods for managing emotions internally and regulating the experience and expression of those emotions.
Religion helps followers engage in healthier lifestyle practices on a daily basis. Religious people tend to drink less alcohol, smoke less, and have healthier habits overall. Spirituality helps followers examine their feelings and mindfully witness their own fleeting emotions. Ultimately it helps us have a calmer outlook, lower blood pressure, and a more even-handed approach to dealing with life’s stresses.
Religion helps followers engage in healthier lifestyle practices on a daily basis. Religious people tend to drink less alcohol, smoke less, and have healthier habits overall. Spirituality helps followers examine their feelings and mindfully witness their own fleeting emotions. Ultimately it helps us have a calmer outlook, lower blood pressure, and a more even-handed approach to dealing with life’s stresses.
Religions never helped us understand the truth. Religions always provide the 'truths'. And science has to work overtime to undo them.
Faith and science are not enemies. In fact, the opposite is true. One is absolutely necessary for the other to exist. All reasoning ultimately traces back to faith in something that you cannot prove.
For a convincing mathematical discussion of this point I would refer you to this excellent write up by Perry Marshall.
See: The Limits of Science
Humans have always sought power and control over their fellows using whatever tools are available. The most commonly used tool is violence but we will happily abuse religion too if we can twist it to that purpose. Secular history is similarly full of humans seeking power and control by any means possible. This constant and violent competition for power says much more about humanity then it does about religion.
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Now, religions are slowing down our progress. Science and secular legal and moral frameworks essentially replace religion. Religion is seen as a relic of the past.
Today, there are many other reasons why strangers might want to co-operate peacefully. Religion is not one of them.
Religions are what divides us as humans. Next step in human evolution, which will bring AI, cyborgs, colonization of other planets etc, will be done despite religions.
Religions hold us back. The benefits it once had, are already achieved by other means.
Now, religions are slowing down our progress. Science and secular legal and moral frameworks essentially replace religion. Religion is seen as a relic of the past.
Today, there are many other reasons why strangers might want to co-operate peacefully. Religion is not one of them.
Religions are what divides us as humans. Next step in human evolution, which will bring AI, cyborgs, colonization of other planets etc, will be done despite religions.
Religions hold us back. The benefits it once had, are already achieved by other means.
Yes this is the part of your argument I believe to be false. Human nature is what divides us. Ethical monotheism is a consensus protocol that allows us to slowly overcome these divisions. A universal strategy is an essential foundation that enables freedom.
AI, cyborgs, etcetera are indeed coming. I take the position that ethical monotheism forms the foundation of a consensus protocol that will keep these things from destroying us.
I posted my reasoning for this upthread.
See: Faith and Future
When you are schizophrenic or delusional you might never be able to cure yourself. You will remain delusional until you die. (True)
It does not matter that people are delusional when they do not cause harm to others or themselves. But unfortunately, that is not the case when it comes to religious delusion. These people are dangerous, borderline insane. (False)
When people think they have the right to kill others because of their delusion, that is a problem. (True)
In the future, religions will be treated as a medical issue. We need to find the "religion" gene and eradicate it from the gene pool. (False)
It does not matter that people are delusional when they do not cause harm to others or themselves. But unfortunately, that is not the case when it comes to religious delusion. These people are dangerous, borderline insane. (False)
When people think they have the right to kill others because of their delusion, that is a problem. (True)
In the future, religions will be treated as a medical issue. We need to find the "religion" gene and eradicate it from the gene pool. (False)
Truth followed by falsehood. You af_newbie simply do not seem to understand religion.
Since we are on a bitcoin forum let me frame this in the language of bitcoin maybe that will help you understand.
What is bitcoin?
Bitcoin is an overarching consensus system organized around the concept of sound money. Those voluntarily participating in this consensus are required to behave transparently and do work with the ultimate aim of ensuring all network participants abide by the greater consensus. Nodes who choose not to follow the protocol, miners who submit invalid proof of work, and users who try to spend bitcoins without verified private keys, are simply ignored by the greater consensus.
Bitcoin is a form of group selection and group selection entails that group behavior be referenced to something outside the group. This something outside is the concept groups cohere and organize around. It is what they cooperate to promote. In the case of bitcoin the referenced object is the conceptual idea of a sound and ideal money.
What is religion (specifically ethical monotheism)?
Religion is also a form of group selection. It is the far more ambitious consensus that involves organizing humanity around the external concept of God. Once you understand this you understand the transformative nature of religion in both historic and modern human societies.
In any network some actors behave badly. They seek to impose their vision through force rather then consensus. In bitcoin we see this with the threat of a miner instigated contentious hardfork and also in the threat of nodes forcing change with a UASF. In religion we see it with certain sects seeking converts by the sword. In all cases this behavior is unhelpful and it will cease and fade out gradually over time as it becomes clear to all that voluntary consensus and cooperation not force is the ultimate path forward.
Religion is the proximate method of Group Selection in humans. Below is a nice article on this by Bruce Charlton if you are interested in reading more.
http://iqpersonalitygenius.blogspot.com/2015/11/religion-as-proximate-method-of-group.html?m=1
As an aside this may also be why you will notice that the very religious on this forum often seem to be the most optimistic about bitcoin and confident in it's long term success. The religious have an innate affinity for consensus networks as they are already active members of one.
You think I don't understand why the religions were invented? Or what positive benefits they brought?
Primitive people needed common myths to co-operate with strangers. Our ancestors would never be able to wipe out Neanderthals if it was not for the common myths. We would be wiped out by the Neanderthals as they were stronger individuals, but their bands rarely exceeded 50 members.
Religions allowed for larger groups of strangers to co-operate and this helped them survive. 50 Neanderthals did not stand a chance against 5000 horde of small, smart apes. Sapiens exterminated them.
When agricultural revolution started,small cities formed, then larger cities etc. You needed a rule of law to manage larger groups of people.
That is where religion was used. This invention helped us thrive to the days of scientific revolution. Now, religions are slowing down our progress. Science and secular legal and moral frameworks essentially replace religion. Religion is seen as a relic of the past.
Today, there are many other reasons why strangers might want to co-operate peacefully. Religion is not one of them.
Religions are what divides us as humans. Next step in human evolution, which will bring AI, cyborgs, colonization of other planets etc, will be done despite religions.
Religions hold us back. The benefits it once had, are already achieved by other means.
When you are schizophrenic or delusional you might never be able to cure yourself. You will remain delusional until you die. (True)
It does not matter that people are delusional when they do not cause harm to others or themselves. But unfortunately, that is not the case when it comes to religious delusion. These people are dangerous, borderline insane. (False)
When people think they have the right to kill others because of their delusion, that is a problem. (True)
In the future, religions will be treated as a medical issue. We need to find the "religion" gene and eradicate it from the gene pool. (False)
It does not matter that people are delusional when they do not cause harm to others or themselves. But unfortunately, that is not the case when it comes to religious delusion. These people are dangerous, borderline insane. (False)
When people think they have the right to kill others because of their delusion, that is a problem. (True)
In the future, religions will be treated as a medical issue. We need to find the "religion" gene and eradicate it from the gene pool. (False)
Truth followed by falsehood. You af_newbie simply do not seem to understand religion.
Since we are on a bitcoin forum let me frame this in the language of bitcoin maybe that will help you understand.
What is bitcoin?
Bitcoin is an overarching consensus system organized around the concept of sound money. Those voluntarily participating in this consensus are required to behave transparently and do work with the ultimate aim of ensuring all network participants abide by the greater consensus. Nodes who choose not to follow the protocol, miners who submit invalid proof of work, and users who try to spend bitcoins without verified private keys, are simply ignored by the greater consensus.
Bitcoin is a form of group selection and group selection entails that group behavior be referenced to something outside the group. This something outside is the concept groups cohere and organize around. It is what they cooperate to promote. In the case of bitcoin the referenced object is the conceptual idea of a sound and ideal money.
What is religion (specifically ethical monotheism)?
Religion is also a form of group selection. It is the far more ambitious consensus that involves organizing humanity around the external concept of God. Once you understand this you understand the transformative nature of religion in both historic and modern human societies.
In any network some actors behave badly. They seek to impose their vision through force rather then consensus. In bitcoin we see this with the threat of a miner instigated contentious hardfork and also in the threat of nodes forcing change with a UASF. In religion we see it with certain sects seeking converts by the sword. In all cases this behavior is unhelpful and it will cease and fade out gradually over time as it becomes clear to all that voluntary consensus and cooperation not force is the ultimate path forward.
Religion is the proximate method of Group Selection in humans. Below is a nice article on this by Bruce Charlton if you are interested in reading more.
http://iqpersonalitygenius.blogspot.com/2015/11/religion-as-proximate-method-of-group.html?m=1
As an aside this may also be why you will notice that the very religious on this forum often seem to be the most optimistic about bitcoin and confident in it's long term success. The religious have an innate affinity for consensus networks as they are already active members of one.
Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure
That is your point of view but you cannot also blame the bond that a certain religion can provide to its people . true religion In my opinion we can consider our soul as healthy but of course it does not apply to everyone
Medicine is poison. The pills your doctor prescribes for you to take are poison. Literally.
Go talk to your pharmacist when you get your pills at the drug store. He'll tell you that most of the time your pills contain a bunch of filler, and that there is a kernel of poison in them that does the work. You take the poison, but you get better.
Similar with religion. You sit around in church or at the bar (depending on your religion), and you get a bunch of filler, and a kernel of poison. Then you get healthier.
I mean, go ask your doctor what chemicals are in chemotherapy. They are poison. Religion tells you that you have to die to go to Heaven. And the stuff you imbibe at the bar helps you to die, but you can get awful happy for a while before you do.
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