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Topic: Health and Religion - page 73. (Read 211012 times)

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July 02, 2017, 07:40:20 AM
I don't think all of these data are true(they reminds me Hitler) .Nevertheless it seems that many scientists/highbrow people don't believe in god existence or something similar.This apparently signifies something.
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July 02, 2017, 03:49:13 AM
Religion, God gave us. It is necessary for the soul of the man that God created. Faith is the property of the human soul.
It is good to purify the soul with repentance, it's great that there are "mediators" for this, the main thing is that God will judge the soul, and the soul will be in the form in which the human body has left.
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July 02, 2017, 03:47:09 AM
A person does not need religion. A person needs spirituality and knowledge of the laws by which the universe lives and develops and all the living things in it. This is a person of medium and higher level of development (that is, the age of the soul), and religion, yes, this with fanaticism is the destiny of young souls, atheism-quite infantile, not seeing beyond its nose.
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July 02, 2017, 03:40:05 AM
Religion is also an attempt to escape from the isolation of the individual in his own close world, beyond himself. A religious person feels less alone. He belongs to the community of believers, and most importantly, is in contact with higher forces. In them he finds support, the existing order in the world rests on the higher forces, their developments can explain (and justify!) The events taking place. The catastrophe did not happen by itself, but by the will of the gods. It was not the man himself who committed fatal stupidity, but demons or demons pushed him. In the role of otherworldly forces fate can act, it is still preferable to mere chance. On fate, you can dump what is happening ("destined to go nowhere"), the accident is more difficult. In general, the presence of higher forces makes the picture of the world more definite, orderly.
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July 02, 2017, 02:14:48 AM
health and religion compliments each other in way.
if you look at each religion, you can see that almost everyone of them state a way to better the health of their follwer.
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July 01, 2017, 05:20:07 PM
It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.

There is a reason for this. Science is too backward to understand God. And nobody can understand atheism. Atheism is one of those things that is here, but doesn't really exist.

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July 01, 2017, 04:46:20 PM
It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.
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July 01, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
Some native tribes believe that people who are yelling and are a schizophrenic might believe they are talking to spirits, of course that cannot be proven and most likely is not true.
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July 01, 2017, 02:25:16 PM
Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts

Do yu really believ that? It's an interesting religion you have there.

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July 01, 2017, 01:22:20 PM
Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts
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June 29, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God  Wink

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

Many people specially here in my country have been healed because of Faith Healing process.

Yes that's true, it's not placebo effect, I shouldn't use that word.
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June 29, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God  Wink

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

If it works because of the chemical, and other, reactions of the medicine or whatever, then it is not placebo effect.

If it works because of the faith of the person being medicated without the help of the medicine, then it is placebo effect.

Both can be present at the same time. But faith is stronger. Why? Because all medicine that works does so by causing a faith reaction in someone. The faith isn't necessarily in the person being medicated. It might be the faith of family members, or the doctor.

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June 29, 2017, 05:18:25 AM
Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God  Wink

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.
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June 29, 2017, 04:59:32 AM
Personally, I have nothing against religion, if it does not harm myself and other people. And health does not depend on religion, it depends on the way of life of a person.
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June 29, 2017, 04:53:46 AM
The Bible said that our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, so taking care of our body...which incudes eating well to stay healthy is part of our service to God
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June 28, 2017, 08:21:24 PM
Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.
legendary
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June 28, 2017, 02:07:06 PM
A report from a women who made the unusual journey from secular radical feminism to Orthodox Judaism.

How Radical Feminism Turned Me Into an Orthodox Jew
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3715087/jewish/How-Radical-Feminism-Turned-Me-Into-an-Orthodox-Jew.htm
Quote from: Chava Hinsey
When certain guidelines about gender are accepted and valued by men and women due to their divine origin, these models can become a source of strength, power and inner calm. Although Radical Feminism (as do most forms of feminism) assumes that challenging traditional gender roles must be part of the liberation and equality of the genders, I had come to believe this is not necessarily so. My experience in a community where people tried to challenge those roles had left me feeling empty and frustrated.
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June 28, 2017, 08:05:58 AM
UCLA study proves Mormons live longer.

Mormon men live 10 years longer than other U.S. white males.Mormon women live more than five years longer than other U.S. white females.Those are the among the results of a 25-year study into the health habits and the longevity of the Mormon lifestyle by non-Mormon UCLA professors James E. Enstrom and Lester Breslow, who summarized their research with the conclusion: "Several healthy characteristics of the Mormon lifestyle are associated with substantially reduced death rates and increased life expectancy."The study, conducted from 1980 to 2004, included information from questionnaire responses by more than 9,800 faithful Mormon couples and concluded that practicing Mormons in California had the lowest total death rates and the longest life expectancies ever documented in a well-defined U.S. cohort. The authors concluded the findings suggest a model for substantial disease prevention in the general.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705377709/UCLA-study-proves-Mormons-live-longer.html
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June 28, 2017, 02:03:58 AM
Defending the Faith: Is religion good for your health?
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865681606/Is-religion-good-for-your-health.html

Quote from: Daniel Peterson
Until his retirement, Andrew Sims, former president of the United Kingdom’s Royal College of Psychiatrists, was professor of psychiatry at the University of Leeds. Having also served as founding editor of “Advances in Psychiatric Treatment” (1993-2003) and of “Developing Mental Health” (2002-2005), he knows something about psychiatry and mental health.

He is also a committed Christian, and his book “Is Faith Delusion? Why Religion is Good for Your Health” (Continuum, 2009) brings those two facets of his life together to confront a common prejudice.

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Indeed, one of the major themes of his book is that “religious belief tends to be associated with better health, both physical and mental.”

“The advantageous effect of religious belief and spirituality on mental and physical health is one of the best-kept secrets in psychiatry, and medicine generally," he writes. "If the findings of the huge volume of research on this topic had gone in the opposite direction and it had been found that religion damages your mental health, it would have been front-page news in every newspaper in the land!”

Moreover, Sims contends, “churches are almost the only element in society to have offered considerate, caring, long-lasting and self-sacrificing support to the mentally ill,” which is one of the reasons why “religious involvement results in a better outcome from a range of illnesses, both mental and physical.”

Generally too, he observes, “religion encourages a broadly healthy lifestyle and members of a church or other faith groups are more likely to co-operate with medical treatment.”

“There is no evidence to suggest that seeking religious affiliation for its potential health benefits alone would be advantageous,” he said.

Still, Sims summarizes, in the majority of scientific studies, religious involvement correlates with enhanced well-being, happiness and life-satisfaction; greater hope and optimism, even when facing serious diseases, such as breast cancer; a stronger sense of purpose and meaning in life; higher self-esteem; better responses to bereavement; greater social support; less loneliness; lower rates of depression and faster recovery from depression; reduced rates of suicide; decreased anxiety; better coping with stress; less psychosis and fewer psychotic tendencies; lower rates of alcohol and drug abuse; less delinquency and criminal activity; and greater marital stability and satisfaction. A strong faith and the positive relationships and thinking associated with church membership fortify the immune system, “thus reducing the risk of cancer, improving general health and protecting the cardiovascular system.”

“When looking at the overall effects of religious belief and practice on whole populations,” he writes, “there is substantial evidence that religion is highly beneficial for all areas of health, and especially mental health.”

Indeed, correlations between religious faith and improved well-being “typically equal or exceed correlations between well-being and other psychosocial variables, such as social support.” And, he adds, this substantial assertion is “comprehensively attested to by a large amount of evidence.”

“In one well-conducted study,” Sims reports, “almost 3,000 women who regularly attended church services were assessed for health status, social support and habits. When they were followed up 28 years later, their mortality over that period was found to be more than a third less than the general population.”

Furthermore, “An inverse relationship has been found between religious involvement and suicidal behaviour in 84 per cent of 68 studies. That is, those with religious belief and practice are less likely to kill themselves. This association is also found for attempted suicide; believers are less likely to take overdose or use other methods of self-harm.”

“The nagging question we are left with is, why is this important information” — “epidemiological medicine’s best-kept secret,” he calls it — “not better known?”

“It is a mystery why … government and other authorities are opposed to seeking help from religious organizations.” Also, “it is extraordinary and tragic that the findings of this large body of research … are not better known. If it were anything other than religious belief or spirituality resulting in such beneficial outcomes for health, the media would trumpet it and governments and health care organizations would be rushing to implement its practice.”
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June 27, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Today, more and more often there are talks that people should be accompanied by science and have some kind of proof of each other. But if you remember what kind of danzig there was in ancient times, when the Inquisition of all people who were more or less intelligent or engaged in some science, then one can definitely answer that they beat and science has nothing in common.
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