Topic: Health and Religion - page 76. (Read 211012 times)

When a person is really in great pain, then there may even be a clouding of reason and sanity in such moments is very difficult. Therefore What is the truth to know will be even harder.

Right! It is only in the midst of great joy, or great pain, that a person will compare his opinions with reality to see what the truth is. Of course, there are a few people who try to be truthful all the time.

I think that every person is convinced of something and will arrange his point of view to the last. Though there are times when someone will convince someone, but I think that it's just pointless to do it here. I have repeatedly tried to prove something to someone but I see that people still stand on their own and their opinion is, in their opinion, the most important and most truthful of all.

There you go again. All the time, all the time. Mere talk about rebuttal, without following through by showing any rebuttal that stands.

Find a point in my links, and rebut it directly and scientifically with scientific rebuttal, if you can. I kinda think that you have barely looked at what the links say.

Your links have been rebutted and refuted many times.

The only person who doesn't believe that is you.

Wake up before it's too late!

Religion disciplines the person in everything - in food, in thought and in lifestyle. This gives a positive effect. A person cares about his life and his health. Therefore, it may be indirect, but religion affects human health

I see you haven't become any smarter while you were away. You still can't refute or rebut the science that God exists, and that everything exists because of God.

Turn to God, now, while you still have time, and save yourself from your own demise.

I take a bit of time away and BADecker is still quoting himself.

Oh well, it's another reason to have a drink!

Out of curiosity.... has anyone else quoted your links yet, or does everyone else know your links are full of shit.

Of course, we already proved the existence of God:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Why would our descendants be any more honest by admitting it when we don't seem to want to?

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

Look at this example - Big Bang Theory. One of the greatest flaws in BB is that known history shows changes. There have been volcanoes, hurricanes, Pangea, and any other number of great changes over the earth at many times. We do not know for certain that, if indeed the universe is 13 - 14 billion years old, there weren't many physics changes throughout the universe, that happened over time, that changed the course of the universe in ways undreamed of, so that BB is entirely false. We just don't know. Big Bang will never be proven to have existed.

There is one thing that is as solid as we can get. It is history written down and passed down from ancestors to descendants with stubborn faithfulness. This is the Bible record. We can show that the record has not changed over 2,000 years with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

In addition, there are in the range of 25,000 hand-copied ancient Old Testaments, from 2,000 years ago or earlier, that all match. Who in the world is going to make all these copies and preserve them for this long of a time, except that there is power and truth in it? There is nothing like it in any other writing from the ancient peoples, be they stone carvings, or standard parchment/paper copies.

But this isn't all. Even our science has combined the scientific laws of cause and effect with the knowledge we have of the various dimensions. These two things alone show us that everything is caused, that there is no random activity, but that the causes can change from the beginning when things were started.

This means that the past of our lives can be changed by cause and effect programming so that we are continually living in different timelines while only remembering the one we are currently in. Why only remember this one? Because the changes are being made from the Beginning, so that there is only this one, until the next change. Then there will only be that one, and we will only have memory of it, until the following change.

The fact that there is intelligence and other great complexity, through cause and effect, means that the cause and effect Programmer is so great that It is nothing other than God. It also shows us that God is so great that that He can manipulate even the cause and effect that go through all time from the beginning.

Not only is there God, but He is way beyond anything we consider in power, or could dream of if we considered the wildest that our imaginations could come up with.

To remain on-topic, God is even far greater than all this. He "swims" through the dimensions and the universe, answering prayers and simple desires, because it is the way He is. He maintains health, or destroys it, all according to the power He has placed within the universe. He even seems to contradict Himself without contradiction Himself in the least; we are so limited in understanding that we think He contradicts Himself.

Stick to the Bible. Trust in God. His strength and finesse are beyond understanding. He will help you with your health. But, because of the state of affairs of sinful and wicked people, we won't exist in His salvation until the New Universe... even though we see that salvation coming, from this side of it. Jesus!

@ BADecker

I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

To continue what Okurkabinladin is saying... Trust is a form of faith that everyone knows about instinctively. When people come close to forgetting about trust/faith, something usually happens to them that reminds them.

Trust/faith in what? In the fact that they have no control over anything in their lives.

"But I do have control. I mean, I can walk where I want to walk, talk what I want to talk, even get a gun and shoot it (even if by illegal means)." Except that this is the current state of the universe. It's called order and peace. But just to show that you don't have control, look at the many things that happened to you without your expecting it. Some of them were even against what you wanted. Some of them were even bad.

Think of car accidents where people die. They didn't want it to happen. And if they knew that their actions of driving that day were going to kill them, they wouldn't have taken off that day.

None of us has any control over things. Rather, it is the order in the universe that gives peace. That order is controlled by God through cause and effect.

The point is that we all live by faith, the trust kind of faith. We have faith that things will go on hopefully for our good. But we don't know, because we don't control. We see that we don't control every time we are a little surprised by something. If we were smart, we would consider humbly appealing to God with deep respect for Him.

Kirch speaks like dirty communist from USSR.

Perhaps he could tell us what point of life there is without any faith at all. Communists more often than not become nihilists aswell taking pleasure at making life of others living hell.

Every single civilization in history had culture, that was shaped by moral compass in form of religion. Now, these retards want to repeat mistakes of man killed by syphilis over 90 years ago. Is west really so decadent?

A random moment of wonder

Improvisation at the train station in Paris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_NYya-WWg&list=RDxctzp0dp9uc&index=4

(Best part starts around 2:08)

And mostly the religion of atheism. They trust blindly in science to keep them alive, but there is no evidence that science can do this.

Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure

Well, if you have such an approach, that is a little bit small amendment because it does not always happen everywhere. at
 Difference from the Orthodox, Catholics who give the Covenant of Celibacy, Orthodox live a full life in marriage and at the same time are overweight.

That's only because of all the contraceptives. Most adults are heavier than 100kg. Lack of kids increases the percent of people over 100kg. And true. No kids is generally something not taught by the religion.

Can in fact still remember some rites and strict fasts in Orthodoxy, then at least starvation benefit brings health. But if you look to all the servants of the Church who have a weight of Not less than 100 kilograms, you begin to doubt their devotion to religion.