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Quote from: BADecker on July 02, 2017, 08:21:40 PM

Quote from: Love! on July 02, 2017, 10:53:16 AM

Socialism itself is not the problem. The problem there is bad implementation of a good idea.

Atheism is a smart choice for people who do not need a safety net from reality.

Atheism is a false religion. The true atheist doesn't exist, because he knows that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't examined, yet. This means that even though he wants to be an atheist, and even though he says he is an atheist, he is a liar, and he may not even know it.

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atheism is not A RELIGION.
"The true atheist doesn't exist, because he knows that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't examined, yet."
- I agree on this, maybe atheist are still waiting for a moment where God really shows up .

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Quote from: Prettygirl01315 on July 02, 2017, 08:48:47 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 02, 2017, 08:21:40 PM

Quote from: Love! on July 02, 2017, 10:53:16 AM

Socialism itself is not the problem. The problem there is bad implementation of a good idea.

Atheism is a smart choice for people who do not need a safety net from reality.

Atheism is a false religion. The true atheist doesn't exist, because he knows that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't examined, yet. This means that even though he wants to be an atheist, and even though he says he is an atheist, he is a liar, and he may not even know it.

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We dont know, Maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong. somehow some christians or any other religion in some point of their time they think that God does'nt exist. So I think there is counter rebuttal about the statement you had said.

That's true , there's a point in our own lives that God doesn't exists because of some valid reasons.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 01, 2017, 06:20:07 PM

Quote from: JefLiber on July 01, 2017, 05:46:20 PM

It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.

There is a reason for this. Science is too backward to understand God. And nobody can understand atheism. Atheism is one of those things that is here, but doesn't really exist.

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oh my gosh, i don't even know how to react on this, well Science already invented things to heal people
God is there maybe creating miracles but that's not enough because a lot of people are still suffering from
illnesses!. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BADecker on July 02, 2017, 08:21:40 PM

Quote from: Love! on July 02, 2017, 10:53:16 AM

Socialism itself is not the problem. The problem there is bad implementation of a good idea.

Atheism is a smart choice for people who do not need a safety net from reality.

Atheism is a false religion. The true atheist doesn't exist, because he knows that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't examined, yet. This means that even though he wants to be an atheist, and even though he says he is an atheist, he is a liar, and he may not even know it.

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We dont know, Maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong. somehow some christians or any other religion in some point of their time they think that God does'nt exist. So I think there is counter rebuttal about the statement you had said.

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Quote from: Love! on July 02, 2017, 10:53:16 AM

Socialism itself is not the problem. The problem there is bad implementation of a good idea.

Atheism is a smart choice for people who do not need a safety net from reality.

Atheism is a false religion. The true atheist doesn't exist, because he knows that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't examined, yet. This means that even though he wants to be an atheist, and even though he says he is an atheist, he is a liar, and he may not even know it.

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on July 02, 2017, 10:37:45 AM

Quote from: mariahh on July 02, 2017, 08:40:20 AM

I don't think all of these data are true(they reminds me Hitler) .Nevertheless it seems that many scientists/highbrow people don't believe in god existence or something similar.This apparently signifies something.

This means that there is no God. Religion is a fraud. When it comes to health, people turn to doctors. However, they say that God decides to live or die. How could this be? If everything depends on God then why do you need a doctor? On this question, they probably do not know the answer. And maybe I'm afraid for him to answer honestly. Then you have to admit that there is no God.

Why do you need a doctor? Because being healed by God requires faith... except at the times when God simply does it for His own reasons. A doctor is a placebo that increases faith that you will be healed. Sometimes doctors are enough; sometimes they are not enough. But God does the healing; no doctor does any healing.

If your faith in God happened to be strong enough, you could be healed by God directly. Incidentally, God is constantly healing all kinds of ills that you don't even know that you have, and that were never diagnosed by a doctor.

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Socialism itself is not the problem. The problem there is bad implementation of a good idea.

Atheism is a smart choice for people who do not need a safety net from reality.

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Quote from: mariahh on July 02, 2017, 08:40:20 AM

I don't think all of these data are true(they reminds me Hitler) .Nevertheless it seems that many scientists/highbrow people don't believe in god existence or something similar.This apparently signifies something.

This means that there is no God. Religion is a fraud. When it comes to health, people turn to doctors. However, they say that God decides to live or die. How could this be? If everything depends on God then why do you need a doctor? On this question, they probably do not know the answer. And maybe I'm afraid for him to answer honestly. Then you have to admit that there is no God.

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I don't think all of these data are true(they reminds me Hitler) .Nevertheless it seems that many scientists/highbrow people don't believe in god existence or something similar.This apparently signifies something.

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Religion, God gave us. It is necessary for the soul of the man that God created. Faith is the property of the human soul.
It is good to purify the soul with repentance, it's great that there are "mediators" for this, the main thing is that God will judge the soul, and the soul will be in the form in which the human body has left.

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A person does not need religion. A person needs spirituality and knowledge of the laws by which the universe lives and develops and all the living things in it. This is a person of medium and higher level of development (that is, the age of the soul), and religion, yes, this with fanaticism is the destiny of young souls, atheism-quite infantile, not seeing beyond its nose.

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Religion is also an attempt to escape from the isolation of the individual in his own close world, beyond himself. A religious person feels less alone. He belongs to the community of believers, and most importantly, is in contact with higher forces. In them he finds support, the existing order in the world rests on the higher forces, their developments can explain (and justify!) The events taking place. The catastrophe did not happen by itself, but by the will of the gods. It was not the man himself who committed fatal stupidity, but demons or demons pushed him. In the role of otherworldly forces fate can act, it is still preferable to mere chance. On fate, you can dump what is happening ("destined to go nowhere"), the accident is more difficult. In general, the presence of higher forces makes the picture of the world more definite, orderly.

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health and religion compliments each other in way.
if you look at each religion, you can see that almost everyone of them state a way to better the health of their follwer.

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Quote from: JefLiber on July 01, 2017, 05:46:20 PM

It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.

There is a reason for this. Science is too backward to understand God. And nobody can understand atheism. Atheism is one of those things that is here, but doesn't really exist.

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It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.

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Some native tribes believe that people who are yelling and are a schizophrenic might believe they are talking to spirits, of course that cannot be proven and most likely is not true.

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Quote from: rijktyum on July 01, 2017, 02:22:20 PM

Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts

Do yu really believ that? It's an interesting religion you have there.

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Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 29, 2017, 06:18:25 AM

Quote from: rjbtc2017 on June 28, 2017, 09:21:24 PM

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God Wink

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

Many people specially here in my country have been healed because of Faith Healing process.

Yes that's true, it's not placebo effect, I shouldn't use that word.

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 29, 2017, 06:18:25 AM

Quote from: rjbtc2017 on June 28, 2017, 09:21:24 PM

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God Wink

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

If it works because of the chemical, and other, reactions of the medicine or whatever, then it is not placebo effect.

If it works because of the faith of the person being medicated without the help of the medicine, then it is placebo effect.

Both can be present at the same time. But faith is stronger. Why? Because all medicine that works does so by causing a faith reaction in someone. The faith isn't necessarily in the person being medicated. It might be the faith of family members, or the doctor.

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