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Topic: High Efficiency FPGA & ASIC Bitcoin Mining Devices https://BTCFPGA.com - page 5. (Read 218478 times)

legendary
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Uhm.. does this mean I'll need to wear a lead-lined cup when I'm around my ASICs?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

No,the "tin foil" type will be sufficient  Cheesy
legendary
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dont know if anyone has noticed this so far, but here is a very rough estimated power usage for the bASIC unit,
https://www.bitcoinasic.net/index.php?route=product/all

given "up to 10 bASIC" units, we dont know if that refers to the 27 or 54gh one... either way.
Best case, its 1.85watts/GH, using the 54gh as reference.
Worse case, 3.7watts/GH .. using 27GH as reference.

If the mining units dont use the 5v line from PSU at all, then estimate bout 50-100watts off the 1kw
Also an unknown is weather that 1kw unit would be powering said motherboard / cpu / RAM setup behind the bASIC
If so then take another 40-70watts off that 1kw
So, given an avg of the 2 mentioned items above, lets assume up to 850watts for bASIC's left over..
brings consumption down to 1.57w/GH for the 54gh


Interesting..
vip
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#btcfpga already exists on freenode
people chat and support each other already
I run an IRC for my pool and find IRC a great tool for real time troubleshooting - it can also be a time sink, where possible I link to answers to the frequently asked questions that come up thus not "answering the same question over and again" Wink
newbie
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From what I understand, BFL's last announced shipping date/goal is around the same time as Tom's? Are we just assuming that they won't make it? I gather that they have a reputation for not meeting shipping date goals.
Odi
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A irc channel just for tech support

IRC is good for chatting, not support.  You would need to repeat the answer every time someone asks the question (or create a bot to spew the same information out automatically).  A forum is really the best way for interactive support.

Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC.

That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher.

In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember).

Tom did talk about setting up a forum, but I think he should really just set up an announcement blog.  Post the announcement here and on that page.  I don't want Tom spending his time moderating forums, since he is already behind on replying to emails. And you know there will be lots of drama if he has to pick some moderators from the user-base.

If you did ship first, I guess you would be suddenly swamped with orders, which would  cause a sudden cancellation & immediate cash flow problems for competitors, possibly followed by imminent implosion.

Implosion sounds a bit extreme.  I think it is more because Tom now has a chance of being the first ASIC to ship, which is making some early pre-orderers at competitors angry that they have had their money tied up for so much longer and might not even be first with an ASIC anymore.  Prior to BFL's announcement about delaying to the end of November, Tom's company was just the one with a shorter waiting list.  Compound that with the fact that Tom is taking the second batch now, they can't even appease their anger by pre-ordering here (I know some pre-ordered at both, but some didn't have the foresight to).

I fully plan to contact the FCC regarding compliance.

Ugh the FCC is why FM transmitters suck.  Companies have to go through shenanigans in order to make a decent one.

On the other side of the coin, since an ASIC miner is a non-intentional transmitter, I suggest you just check with your design company instead of directly with the FCC regarding a Declaration of Conformity.
legendary
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A irc channel just for tech support first batch.  Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.

This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent

[...]

Thoughts?

IRC might be useful for that sort of thing, but it's very ephemeral. The first bASIC shipment will be worldwide (I'm in Australia, myself) and it might be a bit difficult for people to get assistance at times. That's not saying IRC doesn't have a use here; just that it probably shouldn't be the main support line.

Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC.

That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher.

In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember).

Maybe each vendor could be given a subforum here, in which they have moderating powers.
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Max Kaye
A irc channel just for tech support first batch.  Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.

This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent

[...]

Thoughts?

IRC might be useful for that sort of thing, but it's very ephemeral. The first bASIC shipment will be worldwide (I'm in Australia, myself) and it might be a bit difficult for people to get assistance at times. That's not saying IRC doesn't have a use here; just that it probably shouldn't be the main support line.

Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC.

That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher.

In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember).
sr. member
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Team Heritage Motorsports
I propose the following, see what people think.

People in the first batch are going to be discussing hooking them up, tech support.

A irc channel just for tech support first batch.  Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.

This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent

I am new to irc, but someone besides tom should be able to do this and we get a invite code somehow.

Thoughts?
legendary
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I couldn't care less about FCC approval, and that even goes for BFL hardware. These are not consumer products, and I don't expect the manufacturers to be wasting money on expensive certifications.
full member
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For the record: I will contact the FCC and find out what changes we need to make if any to keep within regulation.

Design-wise, if you think you may have an issue with unintentional radiation, you might consider using a spread-spectrum clock source.

If you wanna sniff around yourself for unintentional radiation, there's a handy gadget ppl are calling RTLSDR that can function as a cheap spectrum analyzer for radio sources from 64MHz to 2.2GHz or so: http://www.rtlsdr.org/

A voice of reason in the room. You might try a Bitscope. It's what I use at home.

SERIOUSLY?!?  A F***ing BITSCOPE is your standard of how to do FCC compliance testing?!?
sr. member
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LTC
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The first person to post which movie I am referencing here (and proving you are a child of the 80's)

will win 5 free physical bitcoins from https://www.casascius.com/ !!!

Good Luck !


With all this MeTroll thing I almost forgot that I won the surprise Halloween raffle. I'm so happy. You can PM me Cablepair. I'm wasting so much time by checking this thread so often. This Casascius coins win will just make it worst...

hero member
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atleast its a nice smooth 65 degrees in there.
full member
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I'm now removing further "MeSarah"'s posts from this thread and wll remove them generally anywhere in the mining subform at least so long as they keep repeating the same things. As it stands these repetitive posts off-topic and over the top and I'm reasonably convinced that no one here is interested in hearing more of them.

Let me know if I've made a mistake. Alternatively, if whomever is paying these trolls wants to send me a substantial kickback I _may_ be persuaded to look away and allow the insanity to continue: 136H7e7oHYtddM9iPNLG8ZGDqZvme2ogUn  Tongue

Seriously......... Every court needs a Jester.
legendary
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I just wanted to thank cable for running the contest and want to post a picture of my new mod miner up and running.

I'm sure this setup is not FCC compliant and I hope Saruhhhh reports you! ;-)
staff
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I'm now removing further "MeSarah"'s posts from this thread and wll remove them generally anywhere in the mining subform at least so long as they keep repeating the same things. As it stands these repetitive posts off-topic and over the top and I'm reasonably convinced that no one here is interested in hearing more of them.

Let me know if I've made a mistake. Alternatively, if whomever is paying these trolls wants to send me a substantial kickback I _may_ be persuaded to look away and allow the insanity to continue: 136H7e7oHYtddM9iPNLG8ZGDqZvme2ogUn  Tongue

Also— I _strongly_ recommend using the ignore button when you see people that are constantly idiots, dishonest, or otherwise abusive. You can still view the posts if you must for context. Ignore is like a distributed ban and the text turns yellow as more people do it, signaling to other people that the community considers that person to be a waste of time or worse.
hero member
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I just wanted to thank cable for running the contest and want to post a picture of my new mod miner up and running.






also i cant wait to have asci running right next to my new miner.
full member
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Ok same standards are fine.

Why are you not making these FCC accusations at anyone else ? when clearly if I am in violation of them so are they?

Because someone appears to be shit scared you are maybe ahead of the "curve" as regards to shipping product  that is utilizing a semiconductor process that potentially undercuts the other main competitors.
Sure maybe your design appears to not be as polished, but do I really need a platinum plated shovel to dig for gold?

It is about mining not aesthetics.

Work it out  a minimum of several thousand 'Pre-paid" boards at >$1200US each.
That's several million in up-front cash plus future orders. What would a competitor NOT do to protect that sort of money?


If you did ship first, I guess you would be suddenly swamped with orders, which would  cause a sudden cancellation & immediate cash flow problems for competitors, possibly followed by imminent implosion.

Personally I would not even validate him with a reply.

HC
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Buy this account on March-2019. New Owner here!!
MeSarah: your failure to answer my questions proves your a troll.

How can anyone get anything done with constant bullshit badgering by trolls such as this?

I'm done for the night - to my customers take care and have a wonderful weekend. I will be reachable by phone until 10:00PM

if you have unanswered emails I will get to them over the weekend. I apologize I let this troll occupy so much of my time, I promise I wont fall into that trap again.

If you want to help keep this thread on track - please use the report to moderator button next to the trolling persons post. The Bitcoin staff have encouraged us to do this, and I personally thank you and them for participating in keeping things on track.

take care,

Tom
(315) 514-0269

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Read this document linked below. It's written in simpler language, for those that have a problem with reading comprehension, than the regulations them self. In the document is the number for Office of Engineering and Technology Laboratory Division. They can answer your questions.

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/oet-bulletins-line#62
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