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legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1129
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

I feel that the PoS needs to be higher. The supposed mirroring of monetary inflation is irrelevant at this stage.

10% pa, with 7 days qualification cycle would give sufficient incentive. Any opinions ?

I am pretty sure you will hear a resounding NO from all members of the community.

A temporary price boost from new comers who want to stake the coin is not worth, like i said before, runaway inflation and destroying the marketing hook it has had from the beginning.  All it does is give a temporary price boost, long term it sends it to zero.

What do you think the price of PHS, HBN, TEK, BCX will be by next year?  Do you think 10%+ inflation is good for something which aims to be a currency?

If the goal here is just to temporarily pump up the price so that we can dump off our stakes and watch the coin supply skyrocket and the price plummet, hey no problem.  Just clue me in that this is the plan and I'll dump as soon as we break 0.001 again.  But I thought at this point CGB had established itself as more than just a pump and dump scam.

I don't even understand why the PoS reward is being brought up.  The price isn't where it is today because the PoS reward is too low.  The price is where it is today because of the developments of the last couple days, large holders dumping, and disinterest from the latest wave of newbies who hit the scene in nov/dec because they were too late to mine any significant amount (but they seem to love QRK, doesn't make sense to me).

'Skyrocket' in supply is not really the word I would use for 10% pa inflation.

IMO it is a healthy level. 

When a coin reaches maturity, then 2% maybe an appropriate inflation level. There are years to go yet...Even BTC is not mature, and CGB still has to survive its infancy.


Time and price will tell all.

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sr. member
Activity: 462
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Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

I feel that the PoS needs to be higher. The supposed mirroring of monetary inflation is irrelevant at this stage.

10% pa, with 7 days qualification cycle would give sufficient incentive. Any opinions ?

I am pretty sure you will hear a resounding NO from all members of the community.

A temporary price boost from new comers who want to stake the coin is not worth, like i said before, runaway inflation and destroying the marketing hook it has had from the beginning.  All it does is give a temporary price boost, long term it sends it to zero.

What do you think the price of PHS, HBN, TEK, BCX will be by next year?  Do you think 10%+ inflation is good for something which aims to be a currency?

If the goal here is just to temporarily pump up the price so that we can dump off our stakes and watch the coin supply skyrocket and the price plummet, hey no problem.  Just clue me in that this is the plan and I'll dump as soon as we break 0.001 again.  But I thought at this point CGB had established itself as more than just a pump and dump scam.

I don't even understand why the PoS reward is being brought up.  The price isn't where it is today because the PoS reward is too low.  The price is where it is today because of the developments of the last couple days, large holders dumping, and disinterest from the latest wave of newbies who hit the scene in nov/dec because they were too late to mine any significant amount (but they seem to love QRK, doesn't make sense to me).
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1129
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

I feel that the PoS needs to be higher. The supposed mirroring of monetary inflation is irrelevant at this stage.

10% pa, with 7 days qualification cycle would give sufficient incentive. Any opinions ?
full member
Activity: 120
Merit: 100
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

Boy are you guys getting it wrong or what!!!! Economy is not this coin's forte. This .01 baseline will eliminate all incentive to mine the coin.  Very High Brow and High Roller as we sink further down closer to zero; .01 baseline has to be raised or this coin will disappear, period.

What does it matter?  The PoW network could drop to zero but PoS will keep the blockchain chugging along.

Because, with all the risk associated with CGB anybody in their right mind would not get near it at such low PoS level, 1.5%. I would probably become interested with a much higher PoS level, given risk involved, otherwise I will not be mining this coin, neither PoS nor PoW, for its disrespect to any potential investors.

So you think increasing the block reward for PoW, offering higher PoS rewards, and causing runaway inflation would be a good thing for CGB?  Completely destroying the whole rarity thing that CGB has used from the start to market itself would be a good direction for the coin?

I am disappointed by the recent developments, but I hold around 8k CGB purchased around 0.001, and if you think I am gonna dump at these prices you are mad.  I guarantee there are many other investors who feel the same as I do.

So don't worry about the CGB network, I will continue to stake my coins and watch the price go to the moon or to zero.
Totally agreed, I have bought 3k more last few days thanks to those people who ever dump at 0.0004btc.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

Boy are you guys getting it wrong or what!!!! Economy is not this coin's forte. This .01 baseline will eliminate all incentive to mine the coin.  Very High Brow and High Roller as we sink further down closer to zero; .01 baseline has to be raised or this coin will disappear, period.

What does it matter?  The PoW network could drop to zero but PoS will keep the blockchain chugging along.

Because, with all the risk associated with CGB anybody in their right mind would not get near it at such low PoS level, 1.5%. I would probably become interested with a much higher PoS level, given risk involved, otherwise I will not be mining this coin, neither PoS nor PoW, for its disrespect to any potential investors.

So you think increasing the block reward for PoW, offering higher PoS rewards, and causing runaway inflation would be a good thing for CGB?  Completely destroying the whole rarity thing that CGB has used from the start to market itself would be a good direction for the coin?

I am disappointed by the recent developments, but I hold around 8k CGB purchased around 0.001, and if you think I am gonna dump at these prices you are mad.  I guarantee there are many other investors who feel the same as I do.

So don't worry about the CGB network, I will continue to stake my coins and watch the price go to the moon or to zero.
legendary
Activity: 894
Merit: 1064
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

Boy are you guys getting it wrong or what!!!! Economy is not this coin's forte. This .01 baseline will eliminate all incentive to mine the coin.  Very High Brow and High Roller as we sink further down closer to zero; .01 baseline has to be raised or this coin will disappear, period.

What does it matter?  The PoW network could drop to zero but PoS will keep the blockchain chugging along.

Because, with all the risk associated with CGB anybody in their right mind would not get near it at such low PoS level, 1.5%. I would probably become interested with a much higher PoS level, given risk involved, otherwise I will not be mining this coin, neither PoS nor PoW, for its disrespect to any potential investors.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

Boy are you guys getting it wrong or what!!!! Economy is not this coin's forte. This .01 baseline will eliminate all incentive to mine the coin.  Very High Brow and High Roller as we sink further down closer to zero; .01 baseline has to be raised or this coin will disappear, period.

What does it matter?  The PoW network could drop to zero but PoS will keep the blockchain chugging along.
legendary
Activity: 894
Merit: 1064
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.

Boy are you guys getting it wrong or what!!!! Economy is not this coin's forte. This .01 baseline will eliminate all incentive to mine the coin.  Very High Brow and High Roller as we sink further down closer to zero; .01 baseline has to be raised or this coin will disappear, period.
legendary
Activity: 1696
Merit: 1008
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?

CGB will remain a PoW/PoS hybrid. The PoW subsidy will halve until the baseline of .01 CGB per block is reached where it will remain. This will keep holders earning interest while at the same time further securing the block chain via PoW mining and PoS stake mining. An attack on a PoW/PoS hybrid would have to consist of not only control of greater than 50% of hashing power (as with most other coins) but also would require ownership of greater than 50% of the staked coins. The PoS addition essentially means that any potential attacker would have to be a majority owner of CGB as well as the majority miner and thereby the attack would predominantly be against themselves.
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 100
I've been lurking and watching this coin from a distance for a while now, but haven't touched it.

Looks like now's the time to start investing!

Definitely.  I would wait a bit though.  Im guessing all the people that bought cheap this morning are going to be dumping soon.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Pretty disappointed that Merc hasn't come in here himself to say anything about the situation.  Judging by the way he's handled his departure, I would agree CGB is in better hands now.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 10
I've been lurking and watching this coin from a distance for a while now, but haven't touched it.

Looks like now's the time to start investing!
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 500
Trading will make me rich)
Interesting coin. When approx it is going to be PoS only by the way?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I just wanted to post a quick word here about what happened today. I was mobile and have finally had the time to catch up on everything. I will start by saying that I believe everyone has done what is best for themselves and we can leave it at that. I wish Merc luck and hopefully we can still collaborate in the future. Change is never easy. I also need to say that elambert has been a very honest and kind person to me and he has 100% of my support. As I calmly read over all of this stuff I see that he was right on top of things and to tell you the truth I think this is the catalyst we really needed to transition from the old to the new.

I will maintain my role (though more officially) as a community development and marketing leader and do my best to help fulfil our collective potential! We will be meeting shortly to organize ourselves and I am sure there will be upcoming announcements. As for me I haven't missed a beat and have posted a challenge over at http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1za5hg/technical_chart_analysis_challenge_show_me_what/. Let's see what you got!  Cool

Fundamentally very little has changed for CGB. Our core team size looks like it has already doubled and might triple. CGB has exchanged hands on the market from one concentrated holder to no doubt countless investors on cryptsy today and likely over a period prior. I am going to end this small piece of analysis with something that may surprise some and that's that I don't believe the core value of CGB in any way depended on MADEsparq. I am sure its had a levitating effect on price in the past as every new crypto-currency wants something to really distinguish itself. CGB is already distinguished. There is no other crypto-currency out there that can claim what we have (Proof of Stake, inflation stage complete, modelled after gold supply). Now we have added the explosion of community collaboration over the last month and today our community has rallied to turn this shocking news into the dawn of a new team, new direction, new excitement!

We have taken this bull by its horns.

-papersheepdog
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 503
Thanks elambert!

This is a great coin and a great community and I am honored to be added to the development team.  Just so everyone knows a bit of my background I am a professional software engineer, with 10+ years industry experience and 20+ years of programming experience.  I currently have a role as lead developer of a multi-million dollar industrial product line.  I have also made fixes and contributions to several other coin projects.  I am confident that I have the experience and ability to take on this role.  

I am working right now to get the development environment ready.  I hope to have a new client version available within the week.  

Thanks to this great community, I have high hopes for the future of CGB!



Happy days  Grin
hero member
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legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1126
Well what this coin needed is a new direction, as we clearly saw that the old one didn't work... So this is our welcomed opportunity to turn things around: I am keeping my CGB safely locked up in my vault...

Пpивeт для poccийcкиe дpyзья!

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legendary
Activity: 894
Merit: 1064
Well what this coin needed is a new direction, as we clearly saw that the old one didn't work... So this is our welcomed opportunity to turn things around: I am keeping my CGB safely locked up in my vault...

Пpивeт для poccийcкиe дpyзья!
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
When I came here that one of my friends wrote to me
cgb that throw their depositors
I spoke with one of the creators novacoin. We together  moderators one of the sites. It just happened. I have to admit. But the chance to recapture funds remains
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