Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive - page 69. (Read 478852 times)
July 09, 2017, 02:50:25 AM
Thank you very much! What about master nodes? They revived projects like Chaincoin to previously unwitnessed popularity. Could something like that apply to HBN?
July 09, 2017, 12:36:14 AM
Maybe the lack of miners is due to problems with the network and nobody reporting them? I tried to solo mine and hit a dozen of blocks but all of them get rejected. Tested with different miners and settings, opening ports etc. Mining other coins is fine though. So i guess the problem is not on my end. 
It is fixed in ver 1.5.3.0.
You can get that version here:
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/releases/tag/1.5.3.0
Required before block 5.6 million.
July 08, 2017, 08:16:03 PM
Maybe the lack of miners is due to problems with the network and nobody reporting them? I tried to solo mine and hit a dozen of blocks but all of them get rejected. Tested with different miners and settings, opening ports etc. Mining other coins is fine though. So i guess the problem is not on my end. https://img1.picload.org/image/rplpipra/1.jpg
July 08, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
Here is what I have come up with. I will be doing more testing, so might be some tweaks but this should be pretty solid.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Quote
Proof of Work Limits
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
Will the increase in time between PoW blocks have a corresponding increase in the PoW block reward?
e.g., Before Block 5.6m Ming the Miner would have the opportunity to mine X blocks per 24 hours and after Block 6.0m he would get Y per 24 hours...
No, it may have the opposite effect. With no PoW, the PoS will be the only thing moving the chain, so the difficulty should go up a bit. Taking down the reward a bit. Orphans should be lower though.
July 08, 2017, 06:15:33 PM
Here is what I have come up with. I will be doing more testing, so might be some tweaks but this should be pretty solid.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Quote
Proof of Work Limits
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
Will the increase in time between PoW blocks have a corresponding increase in the PoW block reward?
e.g., Before Block 5.6m Ming the Miner would have the opportunity to mine X blocks per 24 hours and after Block 6.0m he would get Y per 24 hours...
July 08, 2017, 03:26:12 PM
First of all, Tranz, I really respect you. But 5-6 million blocks is very, very much for computer resources, especially if you have a lot of POS coins.
Why not make a hardfork with a new blockchain? We need to do the simplest swap scheme. For example, the user downloads a new wallet v.2, replaces the v.2 wallet.dat file with old v.1 wallet.dat file, and starts working with the new blockchain. I remember, so did in the Syscoin project.
Thus, even if someone misses the swap process, he will never lose his share. And this can be done every 2-3 years.
Please consider my proposal.
Let's call this plan D. If all attempts at lowering memory and CPU fail. Then I won't discount the idea completely. But for now it is only a fleeting thought in my mind.
Oh, thank you! Of course, if all of the above problems can be solved without a fork/swap, it will be even better.
July 08, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
First of all, Tranz, I really respect you. But 5-6 million blocks is very, very much for computer resources, especially if you have a lot of POS coins.
Why not make a hardfork with a new blockchain? We need to do the simplest swap scheme. For example, the user downloads a new wallet v.2, replaces the v.2 wallet.dat file with old v.1 wallet.dat file, and starts working with the new blockchain. I remember, so did in the Syscoin project.
Thus, even if someone misses the swap process, he will never lose his share. And this can be done every 2-3 years.
Please consider my proposal.
Let's call this plan D. If all attempts at lowering memory and CPU fail. Then I won't discount the idea completely. But for now it is only a fleeting thought in my mind.
Thank, amazing
I vote for "stake for charity" limit removal for above 50%
not critical, obviously
I vote for "stake for charity" limit removal for above 50%
not critical, obviously
Yes, I will be doing this in final version 1.6 release.
July 08, 2017, 05:26:54 AM
Here is what I have come up with. I will be doing more testing, so might be some tweaks but this should be pretty solid.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Quote
Proof of Work Limits
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
First of all, Tranz, I really respect you. But 5-6 million blocks is very, very much for computer resources, especially if you have a lot of POS coins.
Why not make a hardfork with a new blockchain? We need to do the simplest swap scheme. For example, the user downloads a new wallet v.2, replaces the v.2 wallet.dat file with old v.1 wallet.dat file, and starts working with the new blockchain. I remember, so did in the Syscoin project.
Thus, even if someone misses the swap process, he will never lose his share. And this can be done every 2-3 years.
Please consider my proposal.
If this can be done without serious issues (that is quite a big if) , then it is a good suggestion. The resource consumption of the wallet does deter a lot of users.
I know Tranz is opposed to swaps, and he is the one who would have to do the coding, no mean feat. Isn't a swap is like creating a new coin : lots of potential for bugs, and a whole design project ?
Perhaps there are capable coders who would could put something together as an example for others (including Tranz) to look over ? Then the community can begin to discuss it.
I am ignorant of code, so apologies for the crudeness of the suggestion !
July 08, 2017, 03:26:29 AM
Thank, amazing
I vote for "stake for charity" limit removal for above 50%
not critical, obviously
I vote for "stake for charity" limit removal for above 50%
not critical, obviously
July 08, 2017, 02:16:19 AM
Here is what I have come up with. I will be doing more testing, so might be some tweaks but this should be pretty solid.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Quote
Proof of Work Limits
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
First of all, Tranz, I really respect you. But 5-6 million blocks is very, very much for computer resources, especially if you have a lot of POS coins.
Why not make a hardfork with a new blockchain? We need to do the simplest swap scheme. For example, the user downloads a new wallet v.2, replaces the v.2 wallet.dat file with old v.1 wallet.dat file, and starts working with the new blockchain. I remember, so did in the Syscoin project.
Thus, even if someone misses the swap process, he will never lose his share. And this can be done every 2-3 years.
Please consider my proposal.
July 07, 2017, 10:28:58 PM
Here is what I have come up with. I will be doing more testing, so might be some tweaks but this should be pretty solid.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/e14a28cce0967110327f758066c11922af94aa5e
Quote
Proof of Work Limits
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
From Block 5.6m PoW will only be accepted after a Stake block, or 10minutes with no block.
From Block 6.0m PoW will only be accepted after 10 mins with no block.
Bump to version 1.5.3.0 and update Proto Version, will send alerts.
Bump back down the DB version , as LevelDB1.9 "should" work fine as a drop in with LevelDB 1.7
Let me know your feedback if you have it.
July 06, 2017, 06:51:36 PM
speaking the tweaks.
I found it hell difficult to sent some bigger amount to other adress while want to send recently staked blocks in amount which is stakeable under the treshold .
Use case: would like to send 150k to someone in 5k block of most fresh coinst . currently it takes ages to do so.
first ... wallet is ugly laggy.
than coincontrol sort is laggy.
once first operation is done and you go back to coin control there is no way it remembers your filter and position of collumns you made to make your selection simplier...
at the end i dont mind its the price of this lovely coin to handle ... but ..
if i check to send 150k and just say : send in 5k out of newest blocks and everything happens in one go... it would be great
I found it hell difficult to sent some bigger amount to other adress while want to send recently staked blocks in amount which is stakeable under the treshold .
Use case: would like to send 150k to someone in 5k block of most fresh coinst . currently it takes ages to do so.
first ... wallet is ugly laggy.
than coincontrol sort is laggy.
once first operation is done and you go back to coin control there is no way it remembers your filter and position of collumns you made to make your selection simplier...
at the end i dont mind its the price of this lovely coin to handle ... but ..
if i check to send 150k and just say : send in 5k out of newest blocks and everything happens in one go... it would be great
Noted and I agree. Part of the laggyness also comes from flash mining and part from staking. I like how PressTab did the split via HyperStake. I will look to implement that as well! Lots to do..
Why not combine point 2) and 3) ??
I would set min PoW difficulty to 5 because the mining hardware power increased over the recent years.
You also could check a faster PoW difficulty adjustment.
If more than 2 PoW coins were created the last 30 seconds then adjust the new difficulty while multiplying it by the to much created coins.
I am actually coding up combining 1 and 3.
At block 5.7 million every PoW must only come after a PoS block. Or if no block is found in 10 minutes.
At block 6.0 million only if no block is found after 10 mins.
July 06, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Hey Everyone.
Would like a quick feedback/vote.
Right now the difficulty for HBN is very low. Not many miners these days. And those who are mining are taking advantage via flash mining. They wait until no blocks have been mined for hours and the diff drifts lower and lower, then they turn on 100+ mh/s and crush though block after block after block. This either causes large Regorgs or wallet delays.
So I would like to do something for this. Here are a few options.
1) Turn off PoW of completely.
2) Set minimum PoW Difficulty to say 2 or 3 or higher.
3) Only allow 1 PoW block for every 5 PoS blocks.
I am leaning towards 1 or 3. Likely 1. Would like to implement something before July is over. So going to move quickly..
What say ye?
Would like a quick feedback/vote.
Right now the difficulty for HBN is very low. Not many miners these days. And those who are mining are taking advantage via flash mining. They wait until no blocks have been mined for hours and the diff drifts lower and lower, then they turn on 100+ mh/s and crush though block after block after block. This either causes large Regorgs or wallet delays.
So I would like to do something for this. Here are a few options.
1) Turn off PoW of completely.
2) Set minimum PoW Difficulty to say 2 or 3 or higher.
3) Only allow 1 PoW block for every 5 PoS blocks.
I am leaning towards 1 or 3. Likely 1. Would like to implement something before July is over. So going to move quickly..
What say ye?
Why not combine point 2) and 3) ??
I would set min PoW difficulty to 5 because the mining hardware power increased over the recent years.
You also could check a faster PoW difficulty adjustment.
If more than 2 PoW coins were created the last 30 seconds then adjust the new difficulty while multiplying it by the to much created coins.
July 06, 2017, 05:37:29 PM
I heard read about people talking about hobonickles the other day. I thought they are dead I never heard of them much. It rings a bell a little bit. I want to know how many hobonickles should in to start off with a small but workable and meaningful sized investment ? I need to make sure I get enough weight for this staking or minting or whatever it's called.
i recomend to collect multiplies of 5k sent in one transaction to yourself, set the maximum threshold for combinethreshold and splitthreshold and just keep open to stake. enjoy
July 06, 2017, 05:34:51 PM
speaking the tweaks.
I found it hell difficult to sent some bigger amount to other adress while want to send recently staked blocks in amount which is stakeable under the treshold .
Use case: would like to send 150k to someone in 5k block of most fresh coinst . currently it takes ages to do so.
first ... wallet is ugly laggy.
than coincontrol sort is laggy.
once first operation is done and you go back to coin control there is no way it remembers your filter and position of collumns you made to make your selection simplier...
at the end i dont mind its the price of this lovely coin to handle ... but ..
if i check to send 150k and just say : send in 5k out of newest blocks and everything happens in one go... it would be great
I found it hell difficult to sent some bigger amount to other adress while want to send recently staked blocks in amount which is stakeable under the treshold .
Use case: would like to send 150k to someone in 5k block of most fresh coinst . currently it takes ages to do so.
first ... wallet is ugly laggy.
than coincontrol sort is laggy.
once first operation is done and you go back to coin control there is no way it remembers your filter and position of collumns you made to make your selection simplier...
at the end i dont mind its the price of this lovely coin to handle ... but ..
if i check to send 150k and just say : send in 5k out of newest blocks and everything happens in one go... it would be great
July 06, 2017, 05:27:10 PM
I am happy to see that hbn is loosing slowly its grounds in top 10 holder. I just got under 25 percent and falling. Compared to other similar cryptos this is so legit
July 06, 2017, 03:47:26 PM
I heard read about people talking about hobonickles the other day. I thought they are dead I never heard of them much. It rings a bell a little bit. I want to know how many hobonickles should in to start off with a small but workable and meaningful sized investment ? I need to make sure I get enough weight for this staking or minting or whatever it's called.
Well I guess that depends on what you consider "meaningful"
Difficulty is low and interest general paying @100% potential whenever I've looked recently.
take a look at this wallet
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/address.dws?F2JkrXiG99kVnj26FoXaFTg8FSBT8Lu992.htm
only ~1500HBN but staking away regularly
what $5 worth
So jump in !!
Oh, somebody made his homework! A person who believes to know! The link is really boring, I can calm down, and stay in this coin.
July 06, 2017, 03:40:47 PM
I heard read about people talking about hobonickles the other day. I thought they are dead I never heard of them much. It rings a bell a little bit. I want to know how many hobonickles should in to start off with a small but workable and meaningful sized investment ? I need to make sure I get enough weight for this staking or minting or whatever it's called.
Well I guess that depends on what you consider "meaningful"
Difficulty is low and interest general paying @100% potential whenever I've looked recently.
take a look at this wallet
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/address.dws?F2JkrXiG99kVnj26FoXaFTg8FSBT8Lu992.htm
only ~1500HBN but staking away regularly
what $5 worth
So jump in !!
Oh, somebody made his homework! A person who believes to know! The link is really boring, I can calm down, and stay in this coin.
July 06, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
I heard read about people talking about hobonickles the other day. I thought they are dead I never heard of them much. It rings a bell a little bit. I want to know how many hobonickles should in to start off with a small but workable and meaningful sized investment ? I need to make sure I get enough weight for this staking or minting or whatever it's called.
Well I guess that depends on what you consider "meaningful"
Difficulty is low and interest general paying @100% potential whenever I've looked recently.
take a look at this wallet
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/address.dws?F2JkrXiG99kVnj26FoXaFTg8FSBT8Lu992.htm
only ~1500HBN but staking away regularly
what $5 worth
So jump in !!
July 06, 2017, 03:05:47 PM
I heard read about people talking about hobonickles the other day. I thought they are dead I never heard of them much. It rings a bell a little bit. I want to know how many hobonickles should in to start off with a small but workable and meaningful sized investment ? I need to make sure I get enough weight for this staking or minting or whatever it's called.
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